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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork 10:02 - Jul 22 with 9890 viewsBorojack

If Sigurdsson and Llorente get sold to Everton and Chelsea that could be about 75 million coming in including the Cork sale.
We would then need a striker an attacking midfielder / winger type.
Personally I think we need an upgrade on Naughton as well.
Just hope Sigurdsson and Llorente don't go late and we are left scampering around last minute.

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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 10:33 - Jul 22 with 5680 viewsfelixstowe_jack

If sell those two it is going to be a long hard Winter.

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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 10:39 - Jul 22 with 5643 viewsE20Jack

Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 10:33 - Jul 22 by felixstowe_jack

If sell those two it is going to be a long hard Winter.


I don't think so.

A 3 pronged attack of Ayew, Abraham and someone of Chadli's ilk will be a very good forward line. Especially if we add the likes of Wilshire to Mesa and Carroll. That could quite possibly be our best midfield and attack since we have been in the PL (Laudrup era aside maybe).

I have a feeling that Abraham will go on to huge things. Tall, strong, quick, great feet and composed with a natural eye for goal. He looks the business.

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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 10:57 - Jul 22 with 5579 viewsBarrySwan

Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 10:39 - Jul 22 by E20Jack

I don't think so.

A 3 pronged attack of Ayew, Abraham and someone of Chadli's ilk will be a very good forward line. Especially if we add the likes of Wilshire to Mesa and Carroll. That could quite possibly be our best midfield and attack since we have been in the PL (Laudrup era aside maybe).

I have a feeling that Abraham will go on to huge things. Tall, strong, quick, great feet and composed with a natural eye for goal. He looks the business.


Wilshire?

I'm fitter and have more chance of lasting more than a game or two than Wilshire
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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:08 - Jul 22 with 5532 viewsmax936

Chadli is in the Brom squad that plays Palace today, differences may have been sorted.

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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:10 - Jul 22 with 5525 viewsE20Jack

Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 10:57 - Jul 22 by BarrySwan

Wilshire?

I'm fitter and have more chance of lasting more than a game or two than Wilshire


27 games last year for Bournemouth. Very talented boy indeed.

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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:14 - Jul 22 with 5507 viewsWhiterockin

Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:10 - Jul 22 by E20Jack

27 games last year for Bournemouth. Very talented boy indeed.


And how many goals did he score.
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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:23 - Jul 22 with 5474 viewsBorojack

Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:14 - Jul 22 by Whiterockin

And how many goals did he score.


Just had a look at his club stats 146 appearances in 9 years scoring 6 goals.
That's 16 appearances a season on average with less than 1 goal a season complete waste of money.

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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:25 - Jul 22 with 5462 viewsexiledinenglandjack

I'd have a look at max kruse from Werder bremen, available for around 15 million
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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:25 - Jul 22 with 5461 viewsWhiterockin

Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:23 - Jul 22 by Borojack

Just had a look at his club stats 146 appearances in 9 years scoring 6 goals.
That's 16 appearances a season on average with less than 1 goal a season complete waste of money.


Exactly.
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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:25 - Jul 22 with 5455 viewsE20Jack

Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:14 - Jul 22 by Whiterockin

And how many goals did he score.


one less than Aaron Ramsey.

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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:27 - Jul 22 with 5446 viewsDr_Winston

If people could be sure of consistency in both performance and fitness from Wilshere then he'd still be a fixture for Arsenal.

As it stands he's a big, big gamble for anyone willing to meet their asking price, a gamble we really don't need to make that badly.

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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:30 - Jul 22 with 5430 viewsWhiterockin

Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:25 - Jul 22 by E20Jack

one less than Aaron Ramsey.


Ramsey also scored 3 in the cup.
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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:30 - Jul 22 with 5430 viewsBorojack

Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:27 - Jul 22 by Dr_Winston

If people could be sure of consistency in both performance and fitness from Wilshere then he'd still be a fixture for Arsenal.

As it stands he's a big, big gamble for anyone willing to meet their asking price, a gamble we really don't need to make that badly.


Yes let him go to West Ham they like wasting money.

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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:32 - Jul 22 with 5413 viewsmagicdaps10

My worry is, that these players will go late in the window and that we have little to no time to source replacements.

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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:33 - Jul 22 with 5406 viewsE20Jack

Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:25 - Jul 22 by Whiterockin

Exactly.


You have counted hist first 2 seasons at Arsenal as a pro when he made 1 appearance per season simply due to his age, not injury. He had more than a season out with a fractured ankle and ligament damage as a result. So its hardly a telling stat.

He also missed 4 months due to a ridiculous challenge by Paddy McNair. So thats almost 2 seasons out due to awful tackles and not fitness, injury proneness or conditioning issues.

He has had 7 full seasons as what most would consider a first team player. 5 if you discount his broken ankle and the McNair challenge.

21 games per season if you are including the 2 injuries. 29 games a season otherwise.
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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:36 - Jul 22 with 5397 viewsE20Jack

Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:30 - Jul 22 by Whiterockin

Ramsey also scored 3 in the cup.


Anyone judging a playmaker on goal tally really doesn't understand the position in my opinion.

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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 12:04 - Jul 22 with 5301 viewsWhiterockin

Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:36 - Jul 22 by E20Jack

Anyone judging a playmaker on goal tally really doesn't understand the position in my opinion.


So straight choice, you would take Wiltshire before Ramsey?
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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 12:12 - Jul 22 with 5252 viewsSTID2017

Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 11:23 - Jul 22 by Borojack

Just had a look at his club stats 146 appearances in 9 years scoring 6 goals.
That's 16 appearances a season on average with less than 1 goal a season complete waste of money.


With respect he's not employed as a centre forward

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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 12:18 - Jul 22 with 5231 viewsE20Jack

Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 12:04 - Jul 22 by Whiterockin

So straight choice, you would take Wiltshire before Ramsey?


No. But I also don't think we have £60m to spend on a midfielder.

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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 12:30 - Jul 22 with 5177 viewstheloneranger

Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 10:57 - Jul 22 by BarrySwan

Wilshire?

I'm fitter and have more chance of lasting more than a game or two than Wilshire


I was talking to someone who is well in at Bournemouth and he said that the club tried to send Wilshire back to Arsenal in January, but Arsenal declined....due to the season long loan deal.

He said Eddie Howe was not impressed with Wilshire's fitness and his all round attitude to getting fit and retaining his fitness.

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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 12:44 - Jul 22 with 5105 viewsBorojack

Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 12:12 - Jul 22 by STID2017

With respect he's not employed as a centre forward


True but he should be scoring more goals than a full back.

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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 12:45 - Jul 22 with 5095 viewsJango

Why are people using goals and assists stats to define wilsheres career to date? He predominantly plays the deep lying playmaker role. I didn't see anyone using joe allens piss poor goals and assists record last year when they were preying we signed him and we'd still take him back in a heartbeat. Leon Britton.. even worse and what a player he is.
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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 12:47 - Jul 22 with 5078 viewsNeath_Jack

Our fans must be the most connected fans in all of Europe.

We've always got someone on the inside of other clubs, offering us information on any player we get linked with.

I wish i had friends at other clubs

I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 12:48 - Jul 22 with 5074 viewsE20Jack

Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 12:44 - Jul 22 by Borojack

True but he should be scoring more goals than a full back.


Leon Britton scored 2 in 11 seasons.

Olsson scored 2 in 15 games. lets get rid.

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Sigurdsson Llorente Cork on 12:48 - Jul 22 with 5067 viewsTheResurrection

The OP must have a Masters in stating the bloody obvious but still felt the need to bore the rest of us I guess.

However his maths are well out. We'll be more than lucky to get £45m for Siggy and Llorente combined.

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