| Electric cars 21:54 - Jul 26 with 4250 views | controversial_jack |
Everyone driving electric cars by 2040, what a load of crap, it can never happen. |  | | |  |
| Electric cars on 22:05 - Jul 26 with 1808 views | ploppy |
I may be wrong but I understood it was a ban on sales of petrol/diesel cars starting in 2040. I assume everyone who's got a petrol/diesel car can continue to drive them. Regardless, 2040 is such a long way away I can't believe we're even discussing the ins and outs. | | | |
| Electric cars on 22:08 - Jul 26 with 1802 views | controversial_jack |
| Electric cars on 22:05 - Jul 26 by ploppy |
I may be wrong but I understood it was a ban on sales of petrol/diesel cars starting in 2040. I assume everyone who's got a petrol/diesel car can continue to drive them. Regardless, 2040 is such a long way away I can't believe we're even discussing the ins and outs. |
Buy one in 2039 and you are sorted for 15 years, but there will be lot of clunkers driving around | | | |
| Electric cars on 22:11 - Jul 26 with 1793 views | Magic_Michu |
I drive an electric car and it's one of the best decisions I ever made.
It's the best car I've ever driven. Instant torque and power and the most comfortable drive.
On top of that I'm saving around £150 a month on petrol.
It has to be the future... in my opinion the government are pushing the move hard enough. |  |
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| Electric cars on 22:12 - Jul 26 with 1783 views | union_jack |
| Electric cars on 22:11 - Jul 26 by Magic_Michu |
I drive an electric car and it's one of the best decisions I ever made.
It's the best car I've ever driven. Instant torque and power and the most comfortable drive.
On top of that I'm saving around £150 a month on petrol.
It has to be the future... in my opinion the government are pushing the move hard enough. |
How do you 're-fuel'? |  |
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| Electric cars on 22:14 - Jul 26 with 1777 views | MrSwerve |
The end is nigh for petrol heads I'm afraid. |  |
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| Electric cars on 22:16 - Jul 26 with 1771 views | Swanjaxs |
| Electric cars on 22:11 - Jul 26 by Magic_Michu |
I drive an electric car and it's one of the best decisions I ever made.
It's the best car I've ever driven. Instant torque and power and the most comfortable drive.
On top of that I'm saving around £150 a month on petrol.
It has to be the future... in my opinion the government are pushing the move hard enough. |
Has it got Bluetooth? [Post edited 26 Jul 2017 22:25]
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| Electric cars on 22:21 - Jul 26 with 1759 views | SoberBaker |
| Electric cars on 22:11 - Jul 26 by Magic_Michu |
I drive an electric car and it's one of the best decisions I ever made.
It's the best car I've ever driven. Instant torque and power and the most comfortable drive.
On top of that I'm saving around £150 a month on petrol.
It has to be the future... in my opinion the government are pushing the move hard enough. |
Makes the governments look good short term, but with all that extra cash in our pockets, where will the shortfall on road tax and fuel tax come from I wonder? |  |
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| Electric cars on 22:22 - Jul 26 with 1757 views | Cooperman |
| Electric cars on 22:16 - Jul 26 by Swanjaxs |
Has it got Bluetooth? [Post edited 26 Jul 2017 22:25]
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Yes, but he has to turn it off to save battery power. |  |
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| Electric cars on 22:27 - Jul 26 with 1742 views | jacktar |
| Electric cars on 22:11 - Jul 26 by Magic_Michu |
I drive an electric car and it's one of the best decisions I ever made.
It's the best car I've ever driven. Instant torque and power and the most comfortable drive.
On top of that I'm saving around £150 a month on petrol.
It has to be the future... in my opinion the government are pushing the move hard enough. |
I drove an electric car once. It was called a dodgem or a bumper car as we old buggers used to call them. Not sure I'd want to take one on the road though.  |  |
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| Electric cars on 22:35 - Jul 26 with 1724 views | longlostjack |
| Electric cars on 22:14 - Jul 26 by MrSwerve |
The end is nigh for petrol heads I'm afraid. |
You're absolutely right. Raises some interesting questions. Will the German car industry go the way of Nokia ? How will the Govt make up for the loss of fuel duties? Will the National Grid cope? The Government's headline policy of 2040 is a complete joke. It's going to happen much sooner than that. Tesla and Volvo leading the way with the others playing catchup. |  |
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| Electric cars on 22:38 - Jul 26 with 1715 views | Swanjaxs |
A friend of mine took an electric car on a 30 minute test drive around Swansea City Centre and said she was shìting herself by the end... had to break sharply three times because people walked out in front of her, the cars make virtually no noise apparently! Makes you realise that most people hear things before seeing them ... | |
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| Electric cars on 22:39 - Jul 26 with 1710 views | controversial_jack |
| Electric cars on 22:35 - Jul 26 by longlostjack |
You're absolutely right. Raises some interesting questions. Will the German car industry go the way of Nokia ? How will the Govt make up for the loss of fuel duties? Will the National Grid cope? The Government's headline policy of 2040 is a complete joke. It's going to happen much sooner than that. Tesla and Volvo leading the way with the others playing catchup. |
How will they be recharged? It won't be practical to do it at home and there will be horrendous queues and delays at service stations | | | |
| Electric cars on 22:49 - Jul 26 with 1678 views | raynor94 |
| Electric cars on 22:11 - Jul 26 by Magic_Michu |
I drive an electric car and it's one of the best decisions I ever made.
It's the best car I've ever driven. Instant torque and power and the most comfortable drive.
On top of that I'm saving around £150 a month on petrol.
It has to be the future... in my opinion the government are pushing the move hard enough. |
What's the range, in between top up? |  |
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| Electric cars on 22:51 - Jul 26 with 1673 views | MrSwerve |
| Electric cars on 22:35 - Jul 26 by longlostjack |
You're absolutely right. Raises some interesting questions. Will the German car industry go the way of Nokia ? How will the Govt make up for the loss of fuel duties? Will the National Grid cope? The Government's headline policy of 2040 is a complete joke. It's going to happen much sooner than that. Tesla and Volvo leading the way with the others playing catchup. |
Yep, there's no way the country will be prepared to essentially overhaul the way that the majority of us travel in the space of 20 years.
Battery technology isn't good enough to be in mainstream use. That's before looking at the recharging and national grid problems. I think I heard on the news that this won't affect hybrid cars being sold? This is the way that we need to go, until the infrastructure is in place. (More like 30-40 years I'd say).
Also, think of all of the mechanics jobs that have been pretty much the same for the best part of 100 years with combustion engines. Electric technology will change your back street garages and probably shut many of them down.
Second hand prices for decent petrol cars will go through the roof, if you're into your cars. | |
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| Electric cars on 22:55 - Jul 26 with 1657 views | Garyjack |
| Electric cars on 22:12 - Jul 26 by union_jack |
How do you 're-fuel'? |
The electric battery would easily be recharged at a petrol station. It would only take a gallon of petrol to fully recharge the battery which would then last for 20 miles. |  | | |
| Electric cars on 22:58 - Jul 26 with 1649 views | longlostjack |
| Electric cars on 22:39 - Jul 26 by controversial_jack |
How will they be recharged? It won't be practical to do it at home and there will be horrendous queues and delays at service stations |
A friend of a friend has a top range Tesla. Went down to Austria from Hannover in northern Germany and only charged once at a service station while he had a meal. Early days but progress is rapid. I'm old enough to remember the first "mobile phones" in cars. They came in little cases and were as heavy as hell. | |
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| Electric cars on 22:59 - Jul 26 with 1646 views | Swanjaxs |
| Electric cars on 22:55 - Jul 26 by Garyjack |
The electric battery would easily be recharged at a petrol station. It would only take a gallon of petrol to fully recharge the battery which would then last for 20 miles. |
How far would you get on a fully charged up battery? If for instance you would have to recharge a battery 8 times to get from Swansea to Glasgow then in my opinion that would be a no goer [Post edited 26 Jul 2017 23:01]
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| Electric cars on 23:05 - Jul 26 with 1634 views | longlostjack |
| Electric cars on 22:51 - Jul 26 by MrSwerve |
Yep, there's no way the country will be prepared to essentially overhaul the way that the majority of us travel in the space of 20 years.
Battery technology isn't good enough to be in mainstream use. That's before looking at the recharging and national grid problems. I think I heard on the news that this won't affect hybrid cars being sold? This is the way that we need to go, until the infrastructure is in place. (More like 30-40 years I'd say).
Also, think of all of the mechanics jobs that have been pretty much the same for the best part of 100 years with combustion engines. Electric technology will change your back street garages and probably shut many of them down.
Second hand prices for decent petrol cars will go through the roof, if you're into your cars. |
You're right on the potential impact not only on garages but also on suppliers of components and the logistics sector. An electric engine has approx. 200 components compared to about 2500 in a petrol engine. I'm no expert but was told by a VW engineer. [Post edited 26 Jul 2017 23:06]
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| Electric cars on 23:06 - Jul 26 with 1628 views | Garyjack |
| Electric cars on 22:59 - Jul 26 by Swanjaxs |
How far would you get on a fully charged up battery? If for instance you would have to recharge a battery 8 times to get from Swansea to Glasgow then in my opinion that would be a no goer [Post edited 26 Jul 2017 23:01]
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I don't think that would be a problem. You just stick the charger into the fag lighter and it will automatically charge as you go. | | | |
| Electric cars on 23:07 - Jul 26 with 1623 views | Ebo |
| Electric cars on 22:59 - Jul 26 by Swanjaxs |
How far would you get on a fully charged up battery? If for instance you would have to recharge a battery 8 times to get from Swansea to Glasgow then in my opinion that would be a no goer [Post edited 26 Jul 2017 23:01]
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I was listening to a debate on Radio 4 this morning and they said that the timescale between now and the cut off date is very short in regards of building new power stations, wind farms etc which would service this new demand for electricity.
Battery life and charge time would have to improve immensely also.
My boss drives an electric car and he managed to get to Oxford and back on 2 charges. |  |
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| Electric cars on 23:14 - Jul 26 with 1605 views | Swanjaxs |
| Electric cars on 23:06 - Jul 26 by Garyjack |
I don't think that would be a problem. You just stick the charger into the fag lighter and it will automatically charge as you go. |
Fag lighter! It's a USB charger now! Get down with the kids mun 😂 [Post edited 26 Jul 2017 23:14]
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| Electric cars on 23:23 - Jul 26 with 1577 views | controversial_jack |
| Electric cars on 22:58 - Jul 26 by longlostjack |
A friend of a friend has a top range Tesla. Went down to Austria from Hannover in northern Germany and only charged once at a service station while he had a meal. Early days but progress is rapid. I'm old enough to remember the first "mobile phones" in cars. They came in little cases and were as heavy as hell. |
That's fine, but if loads are trying to charge at the same time just as they do for petrol it would be carnage. You can charge a mobile phone anywhere, but a car is different | | | |
| Electric cars on 23:24 - Jul 26 with 1577 views | jacktar |
I think the point in all this is that things will have to change. Once the car industry realise this, then much more will go into developing electric cars that will meet the needs of the consumer. Of that I have no doubt. | |
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| Electric cars on 00:42 - Jul 27 with 1517 views | Cooperman |
This gives me the urge to go and watch Total Recall. | |
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