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How far would you get on a fully charged up battery? If for instance you would have to recharge a battery 8 times to get from Swansea to Glasgow then in my opinion that would be a no goer
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Fecking hell! Which cave have you recently emerged from?
Am seeing more and more EV's banging around the Bont, Nissan Leafs a plenty, Renault Zoe, BMW i3 and i8 and even a Tesla.The vast majority of vehicle journeys are under 40/50 miles a day so current EV batter technology is more than capable for the majority of drivers. The charging infrastructure is flying in; 33 points in the UK last week alone. EV's are going to take over rapidly, especially as the technology improves and gets cheaper. Intelligent charging systems linked to The Grid will dynamically control energy consumption. Our kids, end especially grandkids are going to look at vehicles that emit gases as museum pieces.
I really recommend the Fully Charged channel on You Tube with Johnny Smith and Robert Llewelyn ( him off Red Dwarf) that concentrates on hybrid EVs , EV's and Green energy technologies if you are interested.
A week after we are told there will be no electric trains from Cardiff to Swansea and that diesel will be fine. We are told that petrol and diesel cars are going to be banned and we must use electric.
I love the thought of electric vehicles but they are not as clean as one would think. They require the excavation of millions of tons of rare earth elements to make the batteries.
We will continue the march to deplete the planet to an extent that we won't survive as a species.
So mine only has a 120 mile range but can be fully charged at services in 30 mins... 4 hours to recharge at home... I recharge it overnight every 2 or 3 days.
The new model of the Nissan Leaf, which I have, will do 340 miles.
You're absolutely right. Raises some interesting questions. Will the German car industry go the way of Nokia ? How will the Govt make up for the loss of fuel duties? Will the National Grid cope? The Government's headline policy of 2040 is a complete joke. It's going to happen much sooner than that. Tesla and Volvo leading the way with the others playing catchup.
Why would German manufacturers suffer, any more than any other ? They will still build their cars, specially high end luxury spec, just with electric or hybrid (electric / lpg) .
"Sanity and happiness are an impossible combination" - Mark Twain
So mine only has a 120 mile range but can be fully charged at services in 30 mins... 4 hours to recharge at home... I recharge it overnight every 2 or 3 days.
The new model of the Nissan Leaf, which I have, will do 340 miles.
It's the future.
How much would a full recharge roughly cost?
You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
So mine only has a 120 mile range but can be fully charged at services in 30 mins... 4 hours to recharge at home... I recharge it overnight every 2 or 3 days.
The new model of the Nissan Leaf, which I have, will do 340 miles.
It's the future.
I suppose you have to be disciplined about it. Let's say you wanted to go somewhere on the spur of the moment, or had to go somewhere in an emergency. If you're low on fuel, a trip to the petrol station and you're on your way in 5mins. Even 30mins at a service station seems like an awfully long time.
BTW, do you know how much it costs to fully charge your car from empty? (Sorry: Raynor already asked)
If UK population growth continues at the present rate then I'd be surprised if ordinary working people own cars by 2050. The pressure on infrastructure and housing is going to be considerable: only a minority will have garages in which they could install charging points.
If UK population growth continues at the present rate then I'd be surprised if ordinary working people own cars by 2050. The pressure on infrastructure and housing is going to be considerable: only a minority will have garages in which they could install charging points.
I'm sure we'll have driverless cars by then, with the posibility of not having to own them but just calling them up like an Uber when required.
I'm sure we'll have driverless cars by then, with the posibility of not having to own them but just calling them up like an Uber when required.
Aye that seems the sensible option to me. No ownership just driverless electric taxis, with all charging etc done using economies of scale. Essentially, bespoke personal public transport.
The current nonsense is unsustainable anyway, aren't the number of cars projected to increase by half again by 2025? Impossible to accommodate that. Most houses around here have at least four cars now, one each for the parents and one each for the kids when they hit 17/18.
I'm sure we'll have driverless cars by then, with the posibility of not having to own them but just calling them up like an Uber when required.
We could delay that unappealing scenario by taking population control seriously. I don't fancy a Singapore-style lifestyle on our own crowded island. I won't be around by 2050, but I'd rather like my young son to have the kind of experiences I had with my first sports car as a 19 year old.
So how will people living in a block of flats be able to charge overnight? There'll be a shortage on extension cables.
Seriously though they'll have to start installing charging points within the next 5-10 years to be ready by the ban. What if people are queuing to charge? 30 mins to 'refuel' isn't acceptable in this day and age.
I'm sure it'll improve but to make it moderately viable a charge would have to take 10 mins maximum.
So how will people living in a block of flats be able to charge overnight? There'll be a shortage on extension cables.
Seriously though they'll have to start installing charging points within the next 5-10 years to be ready by the ban. What if people are queuing to charge? 30 mins to 'refuel' isn't acceptable in this day and age.
I'm sure it'll improve but to make it moderately viable a charge would have to take 10 mins maximum.
Hammersmith & Fulham has charging units going in all over the place at the moment. A year or so ago there were none, now there are at least a dozen within 5 minutes of my house.
So within another year, they'll be everywhere here. We have a scheme being launched as well next month, to effectively 'rent' electric cars that will be parked all over the borough whenever they are needed.
Hammersmith & Fulham has charging units going in all over the place at the moment. A year or so ago there were none, now there are at least a dozen within 5 minutes of my house.
So within another year, they'll be everywhere here. We have a scheme being launched as well next month, to effectively 'rent' electric cars that will be parked all over the borough whenever they are needed.
Great for London, but I can't see it being like that in more deprived areas of the U.K. within the next ten years or so...