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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? 19:03 - Aug 10 with 3945 viewsGowerjack

Interesting piece here from Criminal Law and Justice weekly.

In essence the referendum was only ever advisory invoking article 50 may have been illegal and May and her team are fully aware of this.

https://www.docdroid.net/EyjQhLM/clj-181-27-wolchover-5-final-approved-1.pdf

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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 09:07 - Aug 12 with 509 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 13:43 - Aug 11 by Gowerjack

Majority = 37%.


Only 34% voted to remain barely a third.
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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 09:07 - Aug 12 with 505 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 22:35 - Aug 11 by sherpajacob

How stupid would you have to be to put goalposts up the wrong way round.

Mind you, Aberdare voted leave.


Typical Labour Council.
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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 09:09 - Aug 12 with 503 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 14:51 - Aug 11 by Kilkennyjack

Brexit will become the disaster that anyone with half a brain cell could have anticipated.

If you are aligned to Boris, Redwood, Gove, Farage, Davis, et al on any argument then you are probably on the wrong side of the argument.

If nothing else peace in Europe has been a pretty good outcome.

'The past has stolen the future'. Mindless economic self harm - and the poorest areas - like Wales - will suffer the most.

God bless the nice European people who gave us money because London had made Wales so poor.


The peace in Europe has nothing to do with the EU. The peace has been preserved by NATO.
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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 09:11 - Aug 12 with 503 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 19:31 - Aug 11 by plasjack

Russia is in Europe, well parts of it, Ukraine also in Europe, NATO couldn't prevent conflict there.


Ukraine are not in Nato ther fore Nato cannot interfere with a sovereign state unlike the Russians.
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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 10:31 - Aug 12 with 478 viewsAnotherJohn

Not relevant to the legal aspect, but two interesting surveys in the papers today.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/11/remain-voters-now-back-taking-control

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-29-remain-voters-accept-dep
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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 11:20 - Aug 12 with 469 viewsr0ckin

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 09:09 - Aug 12 by felixstowe_jack

The peace in Europe has nothing to do with the EU. The peace has been preserved by NATO.


NATO is a 'defence' co-operation, it's primary role is to guard against threats against the West the former Soviet Union and now Russia. This isn't some Treaty to help provide peace within friendly boundaries.

The EU is a political and economic union. The Treaty of Rome signed in 1957 was instrumental in bringing about lasting peace between foes.

It is much harder to have War between Countries that have a mutual interest in peace. To retrench to National borders is obviously going to create the conditions for potential problems in the longer term, that's just basic common sense.

Just like the EU this isn't a binary choice, the EU has been a force for peace and stability. Just as Nato, the UN etc have helped to prevent threats as well.

I think we've become extremely complacent, there were reasons why the EU was founded and there were reasons why we joined. We joined because we were the sick man of Europe and had in recent decades lost the Empire, we needed Europe.
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Peace

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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 12:18 - Aug 12 with 446 viewsploppy

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 11:20 - Aug 12 by r0ckin

NATO is a 'defence' co-operation, it's primary role is to guard against threats against the West the former Soviet Union and now Russia. This isn't some Treaty to help provide peace within friendly boundaries.

The EU is a political and economic union. The Treaty of Rome signed in 1957 was instrumental in bringing about lasting peace between foes.

It is much harder to have War between Countries that have a mutual interest in peace. To retrench to National borders is obviously going to create the conditions for potential problems in the longer term, that's just basic common sense.

Just like the EU this isn't a binary choice, the EU has been a force for peace and stability. Just as Nato, the UN etc have helped to prevent threats as well.

I think we've become extremely complacent, there were reasons why the EU was founded and there were reasons why we joined. We joined because we were the sick man of Europe and had in recent decades lost the Empire, we needed Europe.
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Firstly, NATO is a political and military alliance.

Secondly, do you think two NATO countries would ever attack each other?

Thirdly, we didn't join the EU. We joined the EEC.
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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 13:18 - Aug 12 with 420 viewssherpajacob

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 12:18 - Aug 12 by ploppy

Firstly, NATO is a political and military alliance.

Secondly, do you think two NATO countries would ever attack each other?

Thirdly, we didn't join the EU. We joined the EEC.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek–Turkish_relations

There is a,definite possibility 2 nato nations could go to war with each other.

The UK did join the EU, our sovereign parliament signed up to the Maastricht treaty. Parliament is sovereign in the UK, and has been for quite a while. Despite some people feeling it isn't, contrary to the facts as stated in the government's own white paper and recent court cases.

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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 14:14 - Aug 12 with 402 viewsr0ckin

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 12:18 - Aug 12 by ploppy

Firstly, NATO is a political and military alliance.

Secondly, do you think two NATO countries would ever attack each other?

Thirdly, we didn't join the EU. We joined the EEC.


As I said, it's not an either or to me they're both beneficial to peace.

Why do have no problem in the NATO alliance, which is giving away sovereignty then?

Peace

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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 15:36 - Aug 12 with 384 viewsKilkennyjack

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 14:14 - Aug 12 by r0ckin

As I said, it's not an either or to me they're both beneficial to peace.

Why do have no problem in the NATO alliance, which is giving away sovereignty then?


Correct.

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Fab, rangel, olsen, chico, amat(?), pablo, roberto, jdg, michu, pintardo, bodde, lorente, - whats not to love?

Nice European people, YJB's - croeso.

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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 17:33 - Aug 12 with 363 viewsploppy

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 13:18 - Aug 12 by sherpajacob

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek–Turkish_relations

There is a,definite possibility 2 nato nations could go to war with each other.

The UK did join the EU, our sovereign parliament signed up to the Maastricht treaty. Parliament is sovereign in the UK, and has been for quite a while. Despite some people feeling it isn't, contrary to the facts as stated in the government's own white paper and recent court cases.


Greece v Turkey. Not going to happen while they're both in NATO. Ever.

If it did, not sure whether Article 5 comes into play.

Re EU. We joined the EEC. It became the EU. We didn't have to apply to join the EU.
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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 18:13 - Aug 12 with 346 viewsLoyal

Quite simply - in the 70's the UK joined 8 other nations and that was what we agreed to.
If the likes of fcking Rumania, Greece, and the other 17 or so countries who nobody has heard of until 1998 were involved we wouldn't even have considered it.
That's how it is, nothing more and nothing less.

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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 20:34 - Aug 12 with 323 viewsr0ckin

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 18:13 - Aug 12 by Loyal

Quite simply - in the 70's the UK joined 8 other nations and that was what we agreed to.
If the likes of fcking Rumania, Greece, and the other 17 or so countries who nobody has heard of until 1998 were involved we wouldn't even have considered it.
That's how it is, nothing more and nothing less.


Ok what do you say to the points I made regarding the 'influence' of GB in bringing in these Countries into the block. This was not a Franco German plot.

Peace

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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 12:48 - Aug 13 with 287 viewsEbo

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 09:11 - Aug 12 by felixstowe_jack

Ukraine are not in Nato ther fore Nato cannot interfere with a sovereign state unlike the Russians.


NATO - North Atlantic Terrorist Organisation

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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 13:01 - Aug 13 with 277 viewsexiledclaseboy

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 12:48 - Aug 13 by Ebo

NATO - North Atlantic Terrorist Organisation


Ebo, I love you to bits mate but you're a walking, talking hard left cliche at times.

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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 13:06 - Aug 13 with 272 viewsexiledclaseboy

Centrists of the world unite.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/12/david-miliband-calls-second-vot

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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 13:11 - Aug 13 with 264 viewsSwans777

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 13:06 - Aug 13 by exiledclaseboy

Centrists of the world unite.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/12/david-miliband-calls-second-vot


What he real is saying, I don't like the result of the referendum, so can we have another one.
No, No, No, No, No.
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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 13:13 - Aug 13 with 261 viewsr0ckin

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 13:06 - Aug 13 by exiledclaseboy

Centrists of the world unite.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/12/david-miliband-calls-second-vot


Every time I think things could change, you get articles with Hammond and Fox in the Telegraph.

No idea what's happening at moment.

Peace

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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 13:17 - Aug 13 with 259 viewsEbo

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 13:01 - Aug 13 by exiledclaseboy

Ebo, I love you to bits mate but you're a walking, talking hard left cliche at times.


That acronym is not that far from the real truth Andrew.

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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 13:56 - Aug 13 with 235 viewsexiledclaseboy

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 13:13 - Aug 13 by r0ckin

Every time I think things could change, you get articles with Hammond and Fox in the Telegraph.

No idea what's happening at moment.


That's not surprising , the government doesn't know what's happening either.

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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 14:03 - Aug 13 with 227 viewsr0ckin

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 13:56 - Aug 13 by exiledclaseboy

That's not surprising , the government doesn't know what's happening either.


I think the term 'winging it' has never been more appropriate.

But the brexit masses will not turn until it's too late then they'll either blame the EU, immigrants or more than likely 'betrayal' not their own choices.

Peace

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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 14:13 - Aug 13 with 213 viewsSwans777

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 14:03 - Aug 13 by r0ckin

I think the term 'winging it' has never been more appropriate.

But the brexit masses will not turn until it's too late then they'll either blame the EU, immigrants or more than likely 'betrayal' not their own choices.


So what dramatic event made you vote ukip for 12 years, to suddenly be such a eurofile ?.
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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 14:14 - Aug 13 with 211 viewsexiledclaseboy

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 14:13 - Aug 13 by Swans777

So what dramatic event made you vote ukip for 12 years, to suddenly be such a eurofile ?.
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I doubt Rockin has ever put his cross in a UKIP box.

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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 14:14 - Aug 13 with 210 viewssherpajacob

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 13:11 - Aug 13 by Swans777

What he real is saying, I don't like the result of the referendum, so can we have another one.
No, No, No, No, No.
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To be fair, that's what the likes of Bill Cash had been saying for 30 odd years.

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Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 14:17 - Aug 13 with 204 viewsSwans777

Brexit result not legally binding - Has the PM committed a criminal act? on 14:14 - Aug 13 by sherpajacob

To be fair, that's what the likes of Bill Cash had been saying for 30 odd years.


And Bill Cash is correct.
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