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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/charlottesville-pro

Some graphic footage.
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 21:52 - Aug 12 with 2091 viewsdickythorpe

Bloody awful.

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 22:54 - Aug 12 with 2056 viewsLoyal

As long as terminology like white supremacist, Nazi, commy etc is used to describe these protestors there will be ignorance.

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 23:15 - Aug 12 with 2028 viewscontroversial_jack

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 22:54 - Aug 12 by Loyal

As long as terminology like white supremacist, Nazi, commy etc is used to describe these protestors there will be ignorance.


It's usually the right wingers that instigate the violence, this , the Ukraine and Venezuela being recent example
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 23:18 - Aug 12 with 2024 viewsexiledclaseboy

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 22:54 - Aug 12 by Loyal

As long as terminology like white supremacist, Nazi, commy etc is used to describe these protestors there will be ignorance.


What terminology would you use?

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 23:36 - Aug 12 with 2004 viewsLoyal

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 23:18 - Aug 12 by exiledclaseboy

What terminology would you use?


Well they are no more white supremacists than nazis, alt right, conservatives, right wing, Republican or whatever term you would like to use. Call a republican a Nazi and you play in to the hands of the ignorant.
I could say the same about the new left, AntiFa, communists, liberals, democrats, SWP or whatever term is used.
The desire to pigeon hole everything and anything takes away any understanding of the issue.
As for what to call them, how about Brian and Steve because that makes about as much sense.

These are new times in a new age, and old terminology explains nothing.

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 23:41 - Aug 12 with 1996 viewsLoyal

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 23:15 - Aug 12 by controversial_jack

It's usually the right wingers that instigate the violence, this , the Ukraine and Venezuela being recent example


I'm not sure about that.
In the USA the so callled left have had some fun attacking the so called right, that was until they responded. We could go on all night mind ....

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 23:43 - Aug 12 with 1992 viewsexiledclaseboy

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 23:36 - Aug 12 by Loyal

Well they are no more white supremacists than nazis, alt right, conservatives, right wing, Republican or whatever term you would like to use. Call a republican a Nazi and you play in to the hands of the ignorant.
I could say the same about the new left, AntiFa, communists, liberals, democrats, SWP or whatever term is used.
The desire to pigeon hole everything and anything takes away any understanding of the issue.
As for what to call them, how about Brian and Steve because that makes about as much sense.

These are new times in a new age, and old terminology explains nothing.


Forget the rest of your justification, you don't think these people are white supremacists? Even the ones wearing hoods?
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 23:49 - Aug 12 with 1985 viewsLoyal

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 23:43 - Aug 12 by exiledclaseboy

Forget the rest of your justification, you don't think these people are white supremacists? Even the ones wearing hoods?
[Post edited 12 Aug 23:44]


They weren't ALL the SAME !
No justification.
You communist ! 😂 No a labour voter ? Correct.

Seriously, if your happy living with these lazy examples that's a matter for you.
I personally chooose not to.
Those black power protesters on the other side though ....
I mean all of them.

Those football fans are all hooligans, all coppers are bastards, all unemployed are lazy, all immigrants are scroungers..... if that suits you fine. But I'm sure it doesn't.

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 23:53 - Aug 12 with 1976 viewsDrGonzo

Corbyn's fault.
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 23:57 - Aug 12 with 1972 viewsexiledclaseboy

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 23:49 - Aug 12 by Loyal

They weren't ALL the SAME !
No justification.
You communist ! 😂 No a labour voter ? Correct.

Seriously, if your happy living with these lazy examples that's a matter for you.
I personally chooose not to.
Those black power protesters on the other side though ....
I mean all of them.

Those football fans are all hooligans, all coppers are bastards, all unemployed are lazy, all immigrants are scroungers..... if that suits you fine. But I'm sure it doesn't.


You seem preoccupied with labels.

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 00:10 - Aug 13 with 1955 viewsLoyal

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 23:57 - Aug 12 by exiledclaseboy

You seem preoccupied with labels.


Rough Trade for me.
Independent.
Easily recognisable.
On its own.
Etc.

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 00:11 - Aug 13 with 1951 viewsLoyal

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 23:53 - Aug 12 by DrGonzo

Corbyn's fault.


Commie.

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 00:38 - Aug 13 with 1920 viewsHumpty

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 22:54 - Aug 12 by Loyal

As long as terminology like white supremacist, Nazi, commy etc is used to describe these protestors there will be ignorance.





This chap was there today. Can I call him a Nazi?




And this lady?

Or am I being ignorant?
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 00:47 - Aug 13 with 1907 viewsKerouac

Horrible stuff.

Anyone carrying that flag should be arrested.

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 02:50 - Aug 13 with 1872 viewsLoyal

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 00:38 - Aug 13 by Humpty




This chap was there today. Can I call him a Nazi?




And this lady?

Or am I being ignorant?


'Unite' .....
I agree as I said, but a carefully selected few do not represent the majority.
Same for both sides.

However for those of a more leftist bent some of the attendees were questionnnable.
I have chosen those from the right as a popular example.



Mate of mine here 😂


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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 03:06 - Aug 13 with 1857 viewsHumpty

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 02:50 - Aug 13 by Loyal

'Unite' .....
I agree as I said, but a carefully selected few do not represent the majority.
Same for both sides.

However for those of a more leftist bent some of the attendees were questionnnable.
I have chosen those from the right as a popular example.



Mate of mine here 😂


[Post edited 13 Aug 3:09]


Yeah. Unite the Right.

Organised by Nazis, the KKK, far right militias and various other white supremacist groups.

We had torchlit processions.

Swastikas.

Adolf Hitler t shirts.

Nazi salutes.

Antisemitic chanting.

And chants of "Blood and Soil."

Oh, and murder.

F*ck it. I'll just call them Nazis if it's all right with you.
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 03:18 - Aug 13 with 1850 viewsLoyal

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 03:06 - Aug 13 by Humpty

Yeah. Unite the Right.

Organised by Nazis, the KKK, far right militias and various other white supremacist groups.

We had torchlit processions.

Swastikas.

Adolf Hitler t shirts.

Nazi salutes.

Antisemitic chanting.

And chants of "Blood and Soil."

Oh, and murder.

F*ck it. I'll just call them Nazis if it's all right with you.


Not many Jews gassed though, which for me is what nazis do.

Aside, Jews are often seen as the victim, attacked by the so called far right.
We know this.

So you would have thought AntiFa, the left would support them ?
No, they hate them as well.

Hatred is winning, both sides, but the new left seems to exist purely because there is a right.
Here's my real position.
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 03:43 - Aug 13 with 1822 viewsHumpty

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 03:18 - Aug 13 by Loyal

Not many Jews gassed though, which for me is what nazis do.

Aside, Jews are often seen as the victim, attacked by the so called far right.
We know this.

So you would have thought AntiFa, the left would support them ?
No, they hate them as well.

Hatred is winning, both sides, but the new left seems to exist purely because there is a right.
Here's my real position.
[Post edited 13 Aug 3:20]


You can only be a Nazi if you've personally gassed a jew. FFS mate. Grow up.

I read about this event in the week. One of the organizers, a chap from the website Stormfront, tweeted "First stop Charlottesville, last stop Auschwitz."

The only reason these people aren't gassing jews is because they can't. Not all of them obviously. Some of them just despise black people.

I've not heard any reports of the protesters chanting antisemitic shit today. Or Nazi slogans.

I have heard reports of the people they were protesting against doing it. Whilst seig heiling, showing swastikas and other generally c*ntish behaviour. Like murdering people.

With respect I think you're talking complete bollocks.
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 04:05 - Aug 13 with 1812 viewsLoyal

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 03:43 - Aug 13 by Humpty

You can only be a Nazi if you've personally gassed a jew. FFS mate. Grow up.

I read about this event in the week. One of the organizers, a chap from the website Stormfront, tweeted "First stop Charlottesville, last stop Auschwitz."

The only reason these people aren't gassing jews is because they can't. Not all of them obviously. Some of them just despise black people.

I've not heard any reports of the protesters chanting antisemitic shit today. Or Nazi slogans.

I have heard reports of the people they were protesting against doing it. Whilst seig heiling, showing swastikas and other generally c*ntish behaviour. Like murdering people.

With respect I think you're talking complete bollocks.


I was merely treating your selective post with the disdain it deserved.
Here's mine

Don't cheapen the deaths of Jews by calling these people nazis and you never know I may grow up.
Viva etc ...... 👍

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 04:20 - Aug 13 with 1801 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 03:18 - Aug 13 by Loyal

Not many Jews gassed though, which for me is what nazis do.

Aside, Jews are often seen as the victim, attacked by the so called far right.
We know this.

So you would have thought AntiFa, the left would support them ?
No, they hate them as well.

Hatred is winning, both sides, but the new left seems to exist purely because there is a right.
Here's my real position.
[Post edited 13 Aug 3:20]


Loyal, dude, the problem with your argument is that American Nazis aren't in 1920s Germany, getting over losing a World War.

American Nazis are basically KKK s*** heads who probably like country music a little less.

But these future Darwin Award winners have chosen to profess their love of Adolf Hitler, and carry that torch forward. The original Nazis were, for years, powerless and insignificant, too, so arguing semantics is fighting the wrong fight. And Trump needs to come after these a-holes harder, too.
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 04:35 - Aug 13 with 1787 viewsHumpty

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 04:05 - Aug 13 by Loyal

I was merely treating your selective post with the disdain it deserved.
Here's mine

Don't cheapen the deaths of Jews by calling these people nazis and you never know I may grow up.
Viva etc ...... 👍


Sorry but I will call people marching about, Nazi saluting, Swastika flying and chanting about Jews enslaving white people, Nazis.

They're f*cking Nazis.

If you think they not really Nazis because they haven't actually gassed a Jew you're a f*cking idiot.

They call themselves Nazis FFS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Movement_(United_States)

Here's their flag.



They're not ashamed of it. They're proud of it. And the non Nazi but alt right arseholes who stand by them and share their views are equally reprehensible.

I can't actually believe this needs to be said in 2017.
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 04:37 - Aug 13 with 1784 viewsHumpty

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 04:20 - Aug 13 by Tummer_from_Texas

Loyal, dude, the problem with your argument is that American Nazis aren't in 1920s Germany, getting over losing a World War.

American Nazis are basically KKK s*** heads who probably like country music a little less.

But these future Darwin Award winners have chosen to profess their love of Adolf Hitler, and carry that torch forward. The original Nazis were, for years, powerless and insignificant, too, so arguing semantics is fighting the wrong fight. And Trump needs to come after these a-holes harder, too.
[Post edited 13 Aug 4:36]


Well said Mike and when it comes to politics you'll rarely hear me say that.
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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 04:38 - Aug 13 with 1783 viewsLoyal

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 04:20 - Aug 13 by Tummer_from_Texas

Loyal, dude, the problem with your argument is that American Nazis aren't in 1920s Germany, getting over losing a World War.

American Nazis are basically KKK s*** heads who probably like country music a little less.

But these future Darwin Award winners have chosen to profess their love of Adolf Hitler, and carry that torch forward. The original Nazis were, for years, powerless and insignificant, too, so arguing semantics is fighting the wrong fight. And Trump needs to come after these a-holes harder, too.
[Post edited 13 Aug 4:36]


Don't call them fcking nazis then !

Call them what they are and more people will grasp the concept.
I've spent years fighting the right with AntiFa but now your middle class kids on daddy's money have caught on and fckd it up I'm embarrassed.

I'm not arguing semantics, just respecting the lost lives to real nazis, it's not my problem people can't see the damage they are doing ........
Dude.

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 04:38 - Aug 13 by Loyal

Don't call them fcking nazis then !

Call them what they are and more people will grasp the concept.
I've spent years fighting the right with AntiFa but now your middle class kids on daddy's money have caught on and fckd it up I'm embarrassed.

I'm not arguing semantics, just respecting the lost lives to real nazis, it's not my problem people can't see the damage they are doing ........
Dude.


They have swastikas. They call themselves Nazis. They worship Adolf Hitler and the purest form of evil mankind may hopefully ever see. They are Nazis.

Saying that doesn't dilute what the German Nazis did with anyone with an IQ over room temperature. This isn't that complicated.

But...sorry about the dude, mate.

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Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 05:00 - Aug 13 with 1771 viewsHumpty

Car hits crowd of anti-fascist protesters amid white-supremacist violence on 04:59 - Aug 13 by Tummer_from_Texas

They have swastikas. They call themselves Nazis. They worship Adolf Hitler and the purest form of evil mankind may hopefully ever see. They are Nazis.

Saying that doesn't dilute what the German Nazis did with anyone with an IQ over room temperature. This isn't that complicated.

But...sorry about the dude, mate.


F*ck me. It's not hard is it?
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