| The real problem is the players 19:31 - Aug 14 with 2387 views | Loyal |
And their salaries that they receive.
Blame who you want but this is the issue. That's why there is little available for transfers, and not just at Swansea. Newcastle have openly stated the same. I also believe the yanks have creamed a lot off the top but this is the problem.
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| The real problem is the players on 19:35 - Aug 14 with 1867 views | Swans777 |
What do you suggest ? A salary cap at Swansea ? If so championship here we come.
A big no from me. |  | | |
| The real problem is the players on 19:41 - Aug 14 with 1844 views | Jackflack |
Exactly
We had the perfect opportunity to reset our finances by keeping the extra skymoney and not just giving it to the players and agents. The whole Swansea ethos has being buying cheap and selling big.
Since we've been spending more than we receive, have we improved? No.
The premier league greed is the ultimate disconnect for me, along with this American abomination.
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| The real problem is the players on 19:42 - Aug 14 with 1833 views | Jackflack |
| The real problem is the players on 19:35 - Aug 14 by Swans777 |
What do you suggest ? A salary cap at Swansea ? If so championship here we come.
A big no from me. |
No. Living within our means and not being reckless. Baston FFS | |
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| The real problem is the players on 19:49 - Aug 14 with 1819 views | Swans777 |
| The real problem is the players on 19:42 - Aug 14 by Jackflack |
No. Living within our means and not being reckless. Baston FFS |
We are living within our means. | | | |
| The real problem is the players on 19:52 - Aug 14 with 1808 views | Loyal |
| The real problem is the players on 19:35 - Aug 14 by Swans777 |
What do you suggest ? A salary cap at Swansea ? If so championship here we come.
A big no from me. |
No, we have a player transfers in cap.
Obviously. | |
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| The real problem is the players on 19:53 - Aug 14 with 1795 views | Swans777 |
| The real problem is the players on 19:52 - Aug 14 by Loyal |
No, we have a player transfers in cap.
Obviously. |
What do you suggest then, old chap. | | | |
| The real problem is the players on 19:53 - Aug 14 with 1793 views | Jackflack |
| The real problem is the players on 19:49 - Aug 14 by Swans777 |
We are living within our means. |
Not according to published accounts in recent years | |
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| The real problem is the players on 19:55 - Aug 14 with 1778 views | Swans777 |
| The real problem is the players on 19:53 - Aug 14 by Jackflack |
Not according to published accounts in recent years |
One year we may lose a few million £ and the following make a few million £, but overall the club isn't in debt. | | | |
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| The real problem is the players on 19:56 - Aug 14 with 1773 views | Loyal |
| The real problem is the players on 19:53 - Aug 14 by Swans777 |
What do you suggest then, old chap. |
A bit of open transparency from the club as a starter.
Ala Newcastle.
But as we know they don't do honesty very well. | |
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| The real problem is the players on 20:00 - Aug 14 with 1749 views | Swans777 |
| The real problem is the players on 19:56 - Aug 14 by Loyal |
A bit of open transparency from the club as a starter.
Ala Newcastle.
But as we know they don't do honesty very well. |
What do you mean by transparency ? | | | |
| The real problem is the players on 20:02 - Aug 14 with 1730 views | Loyal |
| The real problem is the players on 20:00 - Aug 14 by Swans777 |
What do you mean by transparency ? |
Watch Mike Ashley's interview. | |
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| The real problem is the players on 20:04 - Aug 14 with 1722 views | Swans777 |
| The real problem is the players on 20:02 - Aug 14 by Loyal |
Watch Mike Ashley's interview. |
I have. Newcastle have to live within their means. This is what Swansea do. | | | |
| The real problem is the players on 20:04 - Aug 14 with 1720 views | jack2jack |
It's the same in any walk of life if you can see there's money available,people will want the biggest slice they can.This is to the detriment of football and most of all the loyal fans whole follow it.Its going to backfire big time,it's unsustainable. |  | | |
| The real problem is the players on 20:06 - Aug 14 with 1702 views | Loyal |
| The real problem is the players on 20:04 - Aug 14 by Swans777 |
I have. Newcastle have to live within their means. This is what Swansea do. |
So we agree.
The issue is the players salaries. | |
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| The real problem is the players on 20:11 - Aug 14 with 1685 views | Swans777 |
| The real problem is the players on 20:06 - Aug 14 by Loyal |
So we agree.
The issue is the players salaries. |
No wouldn't say that at all.
For example Llorente is on £70 k a week. If we had a cap say £50 k a week, we would probably playing in the championship this season. | | | |
| The real problem is the players on 20:12 - Aug 14 with 1676 views | Loyal |
| The real problem is the players on 20:11 - Aug 14 by Swans777 |
No wouldn't say that at all.
For example Llorente is on £70 k a week. If we had a cap say £50 k a week, we would probably playing in the championship this season. |
Not saying we need a cap.
Just some honesty. | |
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| The real problem is the players on 20:18 - Aug 14 with 1651 views | JackSkellington |
Had a few discussions these past few weeks about how stupid and unsustainable the money has gone. No player could possibly be worth £200m, or even half that. Take yourself out of football for a second and think what Gylfi's £50m would buy in the real world, it's an insanely staggering amount of money. As has been noted, the club could buy the stadium and still come away with change. One player worth more than an entire frigging stadium for christ's sake.
Most of our share of the Sky money goes on paying the insane wages the players get. It's pointless when fans have a go at the Americans for "not putting their hands in their pockets", £20m or £30m isn't the kind of money you can just whip out on a whim, look at that amount outside of football, in reality it's fuking mental levels of money but these days you'd be lucky if it'd buy you a Chadli.
With the biggest clubs spending more and more every year we're simply going to be unable to compete any longer. We were always at a disadvantage playing teams who had single players worth more than our entire squad, but without a multi-billionaire sugar daddy we're increasingly looking at only being able to afford to buy players of Championship quality anyway. It's sad but the only way forward I can see here is for the rich clubs to bugger off and set up their own European super league and leave the rest of us to compete in the real world. |  | | |
| The real problem is the players on 20:20 - Aug 14 with 1639 views | theloneranger |
| The real problem is the players on 20:18 - Aug 14 by JackSkellington |
Had a few discussions these past few weeks about how stupid and unsustainable the money has gone. No player could possibly be worth £200m, or even half that. Take yourself out of football for a second and think what Gylfi's £50m would buy in the real world, it's an insanely staggering amount of money. As has been noted, the club could buy the stadium and still come away with change. One player worth more than an entire frigging stadium for christ's sake.
Most of our share of the Sky money goes on paying the insane wages the players get. It's pointless when fans have a go at the Americans for "not putting their hands in their pockets", £20m or £30m isn't the kind of money you can just whip out on a whim, look at that amount outside of football, in reality it's fuking mental levels of money but these days you'd be lucky if it'd buy you a Chadli.
With the biggest clubs spending more and more every year we're simply going to be unable to compete any longer. We were always at a disadvantage playing teams who had single players worth more than our entire squad, but without a multi-billionaire sugar daddy we're increasingly looking at only being able to afford to buy players of Championship quality anyway. It's sad but the only way forward I can see here is for the rich clubs to bugger off and set up their own European super league and leave the rest of us to compete in the real world. |
Interesting the Swans revenue to wages is approx 85%
The top 6 revenue is far higher, but their wages to revenue is so much lower
Man Utd Revenue £515m. Wages to Revenue 47%
Man City Revenue £393m. Wages to Revenue 50%
Arsenal Revenue £350m. Wages to Revenue 56%
Chelsea Revenue £335m. Wages to Revenue 69%
Liverpool Revenue 302m. Wages to Revenue 69%
Spurs Revenue £209m. Wages to Revenue 50%
Figures are for 2015/2016 Season |  |
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| The real problem is the players on 20:39 - Aug 14 with 1561 views | EasternJack |
As alluded to above, the real problem is that we are too commercially dependent on the tv money - which then puts us on the bottom tier of clubs financially in this league.
The new owners seem keen to address this (the real meaning of "next level"?).
Yes the wages are obscene - but no more so than other high profile roles in high profile industries. We need to spend the going rate if we're to attract the right talent (again - same with any competitive industry)
So if you're looking for someone to blame - it's the old shareholders, including the a Trust. They should have appointed real commercial expertise to diversify and grow revenue streams much more aggressively over the last 10 seasons. Our own amateur roots at board level has caught up with us.
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| The real problem is the players on 20:44 - Aug 14 with 1541 views | Loyal |
| The real problem is the players on 20:39 - Aug 14 by EasternJack |
As alluded to above, the real problem is that we are too commercially dependent on the tv money - which then puts us on the bottom tier of clubs financially in this league.
The new owners seem keen to address this (the real meaning of "next level"?).
Yes the wages are obscene - but no more so than other high profile roles in high profile industries. We need to spend the going rate if we're to attract the right talent (again - same with any competitive industry)
So if you're looking for someone to blame - it's the old shareholders, including the a Trust. They should have appointed real commercial expertise to diversify and grow revenue streams much more aggressively over the last 10 seasons. Our own amateur roots at board level has caught up with us.
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Thing is none of our players are in high profile roles in this industry. | |
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| The real problem is the players on 20:56 - Aug 14 with 1503 views | EasternJack |
| The real problem is the players on 20:44 - Aug 14 by Loyal |
Thing is none of our players are in high profile roles in this industry. |
I strongly disagree. These guys are play for a team in the highest profile league in the world where an average match is watched by 12M people. (La liga averages 2M) | |
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| The real problem is the players on 20:57 - Aug 14 with 1495 views | Swans777 |
| The real problem is the players on 20:44 - Aug 14 by Loyal |
Thing is none of our players are in high profile roles in this industry. |
OF course they are. They are premier league players.
I just don't understand some Swansea fans. Here we have the club playing in the premier league, with the whole city benefiting from the exposure that brings, and yet we have some fans moaning about something or other.
The players earn huge salaries, so what, that's the nature of the beast. You have no choice. | | | |
| The real problem is the players on 21:05 - Aug 14 with 1450 views | awayjack |
| The real problem is the players on 19:55 - Aug 14 by Swans777 |
One year we may lose a few million £ and the following make a few million £, but overall the club isn't in debt. |
I may be out of date but thought we were £20m+ in debt on accounts for 2016. |  | | |
| The real problem is the players on 21:12 - Aug 14 with 1429 views | Neath_Jack |
A world wide wage and transfer cap should have been put in place years ago. Too late now though.
Greed f*cks everything up in the end. |  |
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| The real problem is the players on 21:13 - Aug 14 with 1426 views | Flashberryjack |
The real problem are the parasitic, blood sucking agents, the money grabbing bast*rds should be cleansed from the game. |  |
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