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Rooney punishment 18:18 - Sep 18 with 6786 viewswhoflungdung

Apart from emptying his pockets of small change he ll gave to do 100 hrs community work

Well, fook off out of our village as we ll clear up our own dog shyte


170 quid costs mind


£170. An insult

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Rooney punishment on 18:20 - Sep 18 with 2270 viewsoldcob

It will take him 12 mins to earn by all accounts.
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Rooney punishment on 18:24 - Sep 18 with 2264 viewsLohengrin

Rooney punishment on 18:20 - Sep 18 by oldcob

It will take him 12 mins to earn by all accounts.


And Everton have fined him £300,000. The PFA should be all over that. I don't know by what right an employer could impose a sanction, additional to the courts, for a motoring offence?

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Rooney punishment on 18:29 - Sep 18 with 2255 viewsJackfath

Should these fines, therefore, be means tested? Please bear in mind that many people who earn nothing, or very little could get away with tiny costs should they break the law in such a way.

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Rooney punishment on 18:29 - Sep 18 with 2251 viewsmonmouth

Rooney punishment on 18:24 - Sep 18 by Lohengrin

And Everton have fined him £300,000. The PFA should be all over that. I don't know by what right an employer could impose a sanction, additional to the courts, for a motoring offence?


Depends what's in the contracts about 'professional behaviour' and legality of any sanctions. They do fine players for missing training etc, so it might stand up, it's only a week's wages after all. It's probably more of a PR stunt anyway. Doubt they'll insist on collection. He's the only player really doing anything for them.

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Rooney punishment on 18:48 - Sep 18 with 2218 viewslonglostjack

Rooney punishment on 18:29 - Sep 18 by Jackfath

Should these fines, therefore, be means tested? Please bear in mind that many people who earn nothing, or very little could get away with tiny costs should they break the law in such a way.


Interesting question. They are in Finland and Germany.
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Rooney punishment on 18:52 - Sep 18 with 2207 viewsDarran

Typical Scoucer.

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Rooney punishment on 18:57 - Sep 18 with 2201 viewsexiledclaseboy

Rooney punishment on 18:29 - Sep 18 by Jackfath

Should these fines, therefore, be means tested? Please bear in mind that many people who earn nothing, or very little could get away with tiny costs should they break the law in such a way.


Fines are means tested. The costs were £170, he wasn't fined. His sentence was the two year driving ban and the community service.
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Rooney punishment on 19:00 - Sep 18 with 2186 viewsJackfath

Rooney punishment on 18:57 - Sep 18 by exiledclaseboy

Fines are means tested. The costs were £170, he wasn't fined. His sentence was the two year driving ban and the community service.
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Oh.

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Rooney punishment on 19:03 - Sep 18 with 2175 viewsexiledclaseboy

Rooney punishment on 19:00 - Sep 18 by Jackfath

Oh.


When I was fined for a motoring offence I had to fill in a form detailing income etc so the magistrates could decide on the level if the fine. I f *cking hate magistrates. Usually middle class, often retired types with no idea of the rigours and difficulties some people face in life.

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Rooney punishment on 19:05 - Sep 18 with 2171 viewsJackfath

Rooney punishment on 19:03 - Sep 18 by exiledclaseboy

When I was fined for a motoring offence I had to fill in a form detailing income etc so the magistrates could decide on the level if the fine. I f *cking hate magistrates. Usually middle class, often retired types with no idea of the rigours and difficulties some people face in life.


Don't get me started on those idiots.

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Rooney punishment on 19:06 - Sep 18 with 2171 viewsexiledclaseboy

Rooney punishment on 18:29 - Sep 18 by monmouth

Depends what's in the contracts about 'professional behaviour' and legality of any sanctions. They do fine players for missing training etc, so it might stand up, it's only a week's wages after all. It's probably more of a PR stunt anyway. Doubt they'll insist on collection. He's the only player really doing anything for them.


Mate of mine who's also a civil servant got a final written warning for the same offence as Rooney. It's very much a sackable offence in our job.

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Rooney punishment on 19:30 - Sep 18 with 2143 viewslonglostjack

I think the 100 hrs community service was good and must admit to a bit of Schadenfreude. In Germany it could have been:

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=954790

Fined by the State based on income.
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Rooney punishment on 19:36 - Sep 18 with 2133 viewsDr_Winston

A fine would be pointless. He could afford anything you could reasonably charge him. The community service is a better idea, as long as they don't water it down and make him do something like coach kids.

100 hours of scraping up dogshit or repainting graffiti would be better.

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Rooney punishment on 19:40 - Sep 18 with 2120 viewslonglostjack

Rooney punishment on 19:36 - Sep 18 by Dr_Winston

A fine would be pointless. He could afford anything you could reasonably charge him. The community service is a better idea, as long as they don't water it down and make him do something like coach kids.

100 hours of scraping up dogshit or repainting graffiti would be better.


Agree. Will be interesting to see what the community service will be though. Who decides that?

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Rooney punishment on 19:42 - Sep 18 with 2115 viewssherpajacob

Rooney punishment on 19:36 - Sep 18 by Dr_Winston

A fine would be pointless. He could afford anything you could reasonably charge him. The community service is a better idea, as long as they don't water it down and make him do something like coach kids.

100 hours of scraping up dogshit or repainting graffiti would be better.


A fine of £500,000 as long as it went towards helping the victims of drink driving.

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Rooney punishment on 19:55 - Sep 18 with 2089 viewsHighjack

Rooney punishment on 19:42 - Sep 18 by sherpajacob

A fine of £500,000 as long as it went towards helping the victims of drink driving.


They should also donate a substantial amount of money to the charity that helps prostitutes deal with the trauma of having to sleep with Wayne Rooney.

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Rooney punishment on 20:20 - Sep 18 with 2043 viewsswanjackal

Rooney punishment on 19:36 - Sep 18 by Dr_Winston

A fine would be pointless. He could afford anything you could reasonably charge him. The community service is a better idea, as long as they don't water it down and make him do something like coach kids.

100 hours of scraping up dogshit or repainting graffiti would be better.


He was licking his lips (or potentially those of his customers) at the thought of delivering "Meals on Wheels" until they handed the driving ban on top.

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Rooney punishment on 20:49 - Sep 18 with 2004 viewsSirjohnalot

If I can explain about the sentence today.

Rooney wasn't fined, as such, he was given unpaid work. The sentencing guidelines outline what the Court is obliged to sentence any person before the court, irrespective of who they are. The thinking behind it is that a Prince or a Pauper will get the same ban irrespective or where they are in the country.

He blew 104 in breath, the guidelines say that if you blow between 90 and 119 you are looking at a ban of between 23 and 28 months along with a community order.

The District Judge had to give 1/3 off the sentence so had he ran it to trial he would have been sentenced to 150 hours unpaid work.

The financial penalty would have been a mixture of CPS costs (£85) and a mandatory victim surcharge, both of which are fixed by law.

If he had been fined, which is what the defence were asking for, he would have faced a massive fine. (There's no limit) The DJ refused this saying that the unpaid work would be harsher (he probably was aware that Everton had already fined him) which means that he, effectively, had both.

Luckily, I was in Warrington today, so missed the parade (it's my local court)
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Rooney punishment on 20:54 - Sep 18 with 1992 viewswhoflungdung

So middle class then ?

Stigmatising there Andrew,with respect.

Why don't working class people apply to be magistrates.

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Rooney punishment on 21:05 - Sep 18 with 1977 viewsSirjohnalot

Rooney punishment on 19:40 - Sep 18 by longlostjack

Agree. Will be interesting to see what the community service will be though. Who decides that?


The Probation Service.
if he can do some unpaid work, in some way befitting his job, they'll try to fit it around that.
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Rooney punishment on 21:10 - Sep 18 with 1948 viewsjack2jack

Rooney punishment on 19:42 - Sep 18 by sherpajacob

A fine of £500,000 as long as it went towards helping the victims of drink driving.


Innit the bloke was done for drink driving mind,that's p!ssed in charge of a lethal weapon.Im not trying to be funny here but,FFS.
Oh and if he's done it once who's to say it won't happen again,but next time with tragic consequences.Jeez us.
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Rooney punishment on 21:13 - Sep 18 with 1942 viewslonglostjack

Rooney punishment on 21:05 - Sep 18 by Sirjohnalot

The Probation Service.
if he can do some unpaid work, in some way befitting his job, they'll try to fit it around that.


Does that mean a toilet cleaner would be told to clean toilets while Wayne would get to coach kids?

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Rooney punishment on 21:17 - Sep 18 with 1935 viewsSirjohnalot

Rooney punishment on 21:13 - Sep 18 by longlostjack

Does that mean a toilet cleaner would be told to clean toilets while Wayne would get to coach kids?


Yes, but also an electrician would be able to fix a Youth Club lights, a painter would do the same put paint, a plumber etc.

Just because he a gobshite footballer, doesn't mean he shouldn't use his skills to help others. If he coaches under privileged kids, this is better than his working in his local Oxfam isn't it ?
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Rooney punishment on 21:24 - Sep 18 with 1916 viewsexiledclaseboy

Rooney punishment on 21:17 - Sep 18 by Sirjohnalot

Yes, but also an electrician would be able to fix a Youth Club lights, a painter would do the same put paint, a plumber etc.

Just because he a gobshite footballer, doesn't mean he shouldn't use his skills to help others. If he coaches under privileged kids, this is better than his working in his local Oxfam isn't it ?


Assuming community service is actually meant to benefit the community and not some act of petty schadenfreude so people can say "ha ha Rooney's being made to pick up dog sh!t" then 100 hours coaching and working with some underprivileged kids is exactly what he should be told to do.
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Rooney punishment on 21:25 - Sep 18 with 1916 viewsDr_Winston

Rooney punishment on 21:17 - Sep 18 by Sirjohnalot

Yes, but also an electrician would be able to fix a Youth Club lights, a painter would do the same put paint, a plumber etc.

Just because he a gobshite footballer, doesn't mean he shouldn't use his skills to help others. If he coaches under privileged kids, this is better than his working in his local Oxfam isn't it ?


Not really no.

Coaching kids would be no kind of punishment for Rooney. It's the sort of thing he'd do now and again for the club anyway.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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