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Just checking out the pics of the hug fest between Nicola and Leanne up in Glasgow for the SNP conference, I think those two really like each other. Glasgow was the other area in the UK along with the Rhondda known for its strong communist ties.
Nowhere more communist than Liverpool either- a large representation of the IB were from Liverpool
Neither Plaid or SNP were traditionally left wing. The SNP were a right of centre party until recently
DJ Davies was said to have shaped Plaid more than anyone and he was a socialist, Plaid wasn't created until 1925 and adopted community socialism as an aim as far back as 1981. Their credentials of being on the left are solid.
SNP was falsely labelled by Labour when Labour was on the left decades and decades ago because Labour was afraid of them.
Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
DJ Davies was said to have shaped Plaid more than anyone and he was a socialist, Plaid wasn't created until 1925 and adopted community socialism as an aim as far back as 1981. Their credentials of being on the left are solid.
SNP was falsely labelled by Labour when Labour was on the left decades and decades ago because Labour was afraid of them.
I take it you understand what 'community socialism' is, Tramp, or rather what Plaid theorists held it to mean?
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
I take it you understand what 'community socialism' is, Tramp, or rather what Plaid theorists held it to mean?
Do you understand what it is more like ?, why is Plaid plotted out on the left on political graphs and it's been like that for decades, why is a bona fide socialist like Leanne Wood leader of Plaid ?, why was she voted leader by the membership ?, why would a Plaid big hitter talk about being a socialist before being a nationalist ?
I think you need to face reality whether it's reds in the Rhondda or in Plaid.
Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
On the subject of the Soviets, I'm looking forward to this..
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
Do you understand what it is more like ?, why is Plaid plotted out on the left on political graphs and it's been like that for decades, why is a bona fide socialist like Leanne Wood leader of Plaid ?, why was she voted leader by the membership ?, why would a Plaid big hitter talk about being a socialist before being a nationalist ?
I think you need to face reality whether it's reds in the Rhondda or in Plaid.
I take it that's a no then? You're just parroting political idiom with no understanding of the concept it propounds?
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
I'm taking Trampie to see it in The Vue. A giant carton of popcorn and sweetheart seats up the back.
Jason Isaacs as Yorkshire Zhukov looks worth the price of admission alone.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
Oh no on the contrary it is not me that does not understand.
Spill it then. What did Gwynfor Evans mean by the term community socialism?
Now bear in mind, as I've told you previously, I saw Gwynfor speak on numerous occasions and I want to see how your understanding tallies with what came straight from the horse's mouth.
Before you take the stage remind yourself of who and what Gwynfor was in essence.
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An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
Debate is an open exchange of competing ideas, Tramp. I'm waiting for you to begin your preamble.
I asked questions and you never answered, you do it all the time, you want to dictate the parameters of debate, you want to set the agenda, debate does not work like that.
Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
I asked questions and you never answered, you do it all the time, you want to dictate the parameters of debate, you want to set the agenda, debate does not work like that.
Simple question, Tramp: community socialism, you introduced it to the thread, what was the policy Gwynfor set out?
Answer that and I'm at your disposal for the whole week. Fire what you like at me and I'll give you a considered response.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
Simple question, Tramp: community socialism, you introduced it to the thread, what was the policy Gwynfor set out?
Answer that and I'm at your disposal for the whole week. Fire what you like at me and I'll give you a considered response.
You still have not got it as regards answering people, if you wouldn't answer them that is your choice but dont expect those people to engage with you, it's a two way street, also if you have something to say on a topic you are free to say.
Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
You still have not got it as regards answering people, if you wouldn't answer them that is your choice but dont expect those people to engage with you, it's a two way street, also if you have something to say on a topic you are free to say.
o! Arglwydd, rhowch gryfder i mi.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
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