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Lily Allen 22:32 - Oct 10 with 2459 viewsDarran

Here's one for the freedom of speech brigade.
Should she be allowed to say this?


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Lily Allen on 13:21 - Oct 11 with 446 viewsLeonWasGod

Lily Allen on 08:08 - Oct 11 by MrSwerve

What a thick, attention seeking twit.


A bit harsh on the OP that is....
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Lily Allen on 15:55 - Oct 11 with 392 viewsHighjack

I can't stand Lily Allen or anything she stands for, she's an absolute grade A twwat. However I find her rather attractive and I therefore like her. Does this make me a bad person or am I just a normal man?

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Lily Allen on 16:10 - Oct 11 with 371 viewsLohengrin

Lily Allen on 15:55 - Oct 11 by Highjack

I can't stand Lily Allen or anything she stands for, she's an absolute grade A twwat. However I find her rather attractive and I therefore like her. Does this make me a bad person or am I just a normal man?


Fair play!

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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Lily Allen on 16:28 - Oct 11 with 354 viewsGaryjack

Lily Allen on 10:43 - Oct 11 by Meraki

Jimmy Saville was a man, Garyjack is a man.

Beware all men.
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Yes quite. But you're posting to the wrong person. I was merely pointing out that you do not have to prove that you're not what someone has labelled you in any libel case, not if there were grounds for libel.
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Lily Allen on 16:33 - Oct 11 with 344 viewsexiledclaseboy

Lily Allen on 00:41 - Oct 11 by Highjack

Yes essentially, and since I have no convictions for "kiddy fiddling" it would be an open and shut case. Lily, despite her inate vacuousness has only described Boris as a renowned eccentric. I'm certain she would have had advice before posting that one.


I’m no barrack room lawyer (we’ve got a few of those here) but my understanding is that if I called you a monkey and you sued me for libel or slander it would be for me to prove that you’re a monkey in court, the onus wouldn’t be in you to prove that you’re not.

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Lily Allen on 16:34 - Oct 11 with 344 viewswestwalesed

Yes she should be able to say what she wants, as long as she's willing to risk being sued for libel.
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Lily Allen on 16:44 - Oct 11 with 333 viewsLohengrin

Lily Allen on 16:33 - Oct 11 by exiledclaseboy

I’m no barrack room lawyer (we’ve got a few of those here) but my understanding is that if I called you a monkey and you sued me for libel or slander it would be for me to prove that you’re a monkey in court, the onus wouldn’t be in you to prove that you’re not.


Would you try and introduce Darwin's theses into evidence?

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Lily Allen on 16:48 - Oct 11 with 326 viewsexiledclaseboy

Lily Allen on 16:44 - Oct 11 by Lohengrin

Would you try and introduce Darwin's theses into evidence?


Nah just his avatar pic. And a decent percentage of his posts.

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Lily Allen on 16:50 - Oct 11 with 318 viewsLohengrin

Lily Allen on 16:48 - Oct 11 by exiledclaseboy

Nah just his avatar pic. And a decent percentage of his posts.


If Johnny Morris was a barrister he'd take issue with what you think is a monkey's photo.

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Lily Allen on 16:57 - Oct 11 with 309 viewsMo_Wives

Lily Allen on 16:48 - Oct 11 by exiledclaseboy

Nah just his avatar pic. And a decent percentage of his posts.


You are Gordon Brown and I claim my five pounds

mart6 stinks of bum.

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Lily Allen on 16:58 - Oct 11 with 304 viewsexiledclaseboy

Lily Allen on 16:57 - Oct 11 by Mo_Wives

You are Gordon Brown and I claim my five pounds


Not for the first time, you’ve lost me.

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Lily Allen on 16:58 - Oct 11 with 304 viewsLoyal

Lily Allen on 16:33 - Oct 11 by exiledclaseboy

I’m no barrack room lawyer (we’ve got a few of those here) but my understanding is that if I called you a monkey and you sued me for libel or slander it would be for me to prove that you’re a monkey in court, the onus wouldn’t be in you to prove that you’re not.


Well I agree, the are are those that are qualified and those that are not.
You should listen to those that are qualified.

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Lily Allen on 16:59 - Oct 11 with 302 viewsexiledclaseboy

Lily Allen on 16:58 - Oct 11 by Loyal

Well I agree, the are are those that are qualified and those that are not.
You should listen to those that are qualified.


I do mun, which is why I’d never take legal advice from here.

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Lily Allen on 17:01 - Oct 11 with 294 viewsMo_Wives

Lily Allen on 16:58 - Oct 11 by exiledclaseboy

Not for the first time, you’ve lost me.


Your avatar- HighJack is a monkey.... (had a feeling I'd need to explain that one)

mart6 stinks of bum.

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Lily Allen on 17:02 - Oct 11 with 286 viewsexiledclaseboy

Lily Allen on 17:01 - Oct 11 by Mo_Wives

Your avatar- HighJack is a monkey.... (had a feeling I'd need to explain that one)


Oh right. I’ve had that avatar for so long I forget it’s there.

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Lily Allen on 17:03 - Oct 11 with 282 viewsLoyal

Lily Allen on 16:59 - Oct 11 by exiledclaseboy

I do mun, which is why I’d never take legal advice from here.


You should always listen to me I know loads 👍

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Lily Allen on 17:04 - Oct 11 with 280 viewsexiledclaseboy

Lily Allen on 17:03 - Oct 11 by Loyal

You should always listen to me I know loads 👍


I don’t doubt it. Was I right about the burden of proof in UK libel laws, Rumpole?

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Lily Allen on 19:56 - Oct 11 with 227 viewsFlashberryjack

Lily Allen on 22:37 - Oct 10 by Loyal

Lilly Allen is a cnt.
Darran Prosser is a cnt.

Beware cnts 👍


I agree with the first half and the last bit.
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Lily Allen on 20:03 - Oct 11 with 219 viewslondonlisa2001

Lily Allen on 17:04 - Oct 11 by exiledclaseboy

I don’t doubt it. Was I right about the burden of proof in UK libel laws, Rumpole?


It's the difference between UK and US libel law.

Under both U.K. and US law Lily Allen is a silly attention seeking prat.
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Lily Allen on 20:06 - Oct 11 with 212 viewsexiledclaseboy

Lily Allen on 20:03 - Oct 11 by londonlisa2001

It's the difference between UK and US libel law.

Under both U.K. and US law Lily Allen is a silly attention seeking prat.


So in UK libel law if I called you a corrupt harpie (not that I ever would) and you sued me it would by up to me to prove in court that you are indeed a corrupt harpie? In US law it would be for you to prove that you’re not a corrupt harpie. Correct?

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Lily Allen on 20:07 - Oct 11 with 207 viewsDarran

Lily Allen on 20:06 - Oct 11 by exiledclaseboy

So in UK libel law if I called you a corrupt harpie (not that I ever would) and you sued me it would by up to me to prove in court that you are indeed a corrupt harpie? In US law it would be for you to prove that you’re not a corrupt harpie. Correct?


Just leave the word 'corrupt' out and you'll be fine.
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Lily Allen on 20:14 - Oct 11 with 199 viewslondonlisa2001

Lily Allen on 20:06 - Oct 11 by exiledclaseboy

So in UK libel law if I called you a corrupt harpie (not that I ever would) and you sued me it would by up to me to prove in court that you are indeed a corrupt harpie? In US law it would be for you to prove that you’re not a corrupt harpie. Correct?


Yup.

There was a particularly good episode of The Good Wife on the subject :-)
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Lily Allen on 20:32 - Oct 11 with 180 viewsmonmouth

Scott Turow's novel 'Identical' is based on it too. Surprised me I must say, but the Yanks have got it right. If you sue it is up to you to prove you are not what has been alleged.

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Lily Allen on 21:05 - Oct 11 with 153 viewsFlashberryjack

Lily Allen on 20:32 - Oct 11 by monmouth

Scott Turow's novel 'Identical' is based on it too. Surprised me I must say, but the Yanks have got it right. If you sue it is up to you to prove you are not what has been alleged.


If that's the law in America, then sorry that's just wrong, surely the onus of proof should be on the accuser not the accused.
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Lily Allen on 21:13 - Oct 11 with 146 viewsmonmouth

Lily Allen on 21:05 - Oct 11 by Flashberryjack

If that's the law in America, then sorry that's just wrong, surely the onus of proof should be on the accuser not the accused.


It is......if you sue, you prove it.

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