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Much respect for the woman who put the safety of others, and herself, above her career to finally get the proof to shut down this alleged serial predator. Shame it has taken three decades.
And I find it extraordinary that in a situation where a man has been systematically abusing and in some cases allegedly raping women that it's somehow the fault of women.
Where are your calls for Brad Pitt or Matt Damon or Ben Affleck to have spoken up Darran?
Oh right, it's the fault of women and only women if a man is a sexual predator.
Thankfully the vast majority of men are way more developed than people like you and the idiot Dwight.
Rose McGowan is being a hypocrite though with her tweets - "this is the girl that was hurt by a monster, this is who you are shaming with your silence" and "Ladies of Hollywood, your silence is deafening".
I understand an emotional reaction, but she is basically accusing others of doing exactly what she did for the last 20 years (as well as allegedly accepting payment from Weinstein lawyers to keep schtum).
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Harvey Weinstein on 14:18 - Oct 12 with 1606 views
Rose McGowan is being a hypocrite though with her tweets - "this is the girl that was hurt by a monster, this is who you are shaming with your silence" and "Ladies of Hollywood, your silence is deafening".
I understand an emotional reaction, but she is basically accusing others of doing exactly what she did for the last 20 years (as well as allegedly accepting payment from Weinstein lawyers to keep schtum).
No, she's not.
There's a huge difference in a young kid in her early twenties staying quiet about being attacked by one of the most powerful people in the industry when she knew she would get destroyed, and actresses now being vocal about what's gone on after the story has been blown open.
Even now, she's been removed by twitter. For what? Compared to the sort of constant hate speech the platform carries without a murmur. Imagine what could have happened to her had she reported him all those years ago without (as far as she knew), any backup at all. Her career would have been finished and she'd have never had the opportunity to give her side of the story.
The money remark is typical of the problem she would have faced. Oh, she accepted money, she doesn't have the right to say anything. Nonsense. She was given a choice at a young age - take the money and shut up or we will destroy you. I'm sure that now she wishes she'd been able to do something else, but 20 years ago was a very different time, and even now it's bad enough.
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Horvey Weinstein on 15:05 - Oct 12 with 1563 views
There's a huge difference in a young kid in her early twenties staying quiet about being attacked by one of the most powerful people in the industry when she knew she would get destroyed, and actresses now being vocal about what's gone on after the story has been blown open.
Even now, she's been removed by twitter. For what? Compared to the sort of constant hate speech the platform carries without a murmur. Imagine what could have happened to her had she reported him all those years ago without (as far as she knew), any backup at all. Her career would have been finished and she'd have never had the opportunity to give her side of the story.
The money remark is typical of the problem she would have faced. Oh, she accepted money, she doesn't have the right to say anything. Nonsense. She was given a choice at a young age - take the money and shut up or we will destroy you. I'm sure that now she wishes she'd been able to do something else, but 20 years ago was a very different time, and even now it's bad enough.
I take your points.
And certainly agree with an earlier point you made about why it had to be women who came forward - the example of Brad Pitt being a classic. He actually threatened to assault Weinstein after the Paltrow incident, yet happily made another two films with the man and stood on the red carpet arm in arm with him beaming like a goon.
The whole sorry affair is sordid, it's a sordid, nasty industry and with a combination of the likes of Weinstein (and probably many others) in positions of absolute power and hordes of wannabe film stars vulnerable to these types of situations, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the next YewTree.
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Harvey Weinstein on 15:54 - Oct 12 with 1530 views
And certainly agree with an earlier point you made about why it had to be women who came forward - the example of Brad Pitt being a classic. He actually threatened to assault Weinstein after the Paltrow incident, yet happily made another two films with the man and stood on the red carpet arm in arm with him beaming like a goon.
The whole sorry affair is sordid, it's a sordid, nasty industry and with a combination of the likes of Weinstein (and probably many others) in positions of absolute power and hordes of wannabe film stars vulnerable to these types of situations, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the next YewTree.
I agree about Brad Pitt.
Ben Affleck is certainly not coming out of this well either.
And your wider point is spot on, the industry is sordid. I have no doubt that there are many men who have been assaulted as well - I imagine they may be quite circumspect in coming forward because of accusations that will be made. But I think this is the tip of the iceberg and many other studio heads (including women incidentally), will be guilty of similar behaviour to young aspiring stars.
Rita Ora looks unwilling to let go of Oprah whatever it is. Oprah doesn't look 100% about it either and looks like she's pulling Rita Ora away. But that's just because now these accusations have been made everything will look suspicious, even if it isn't.
From memory, The Butler was Weinstein wasn't it?
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Harvey Weinstein on 16:22 - Oct 12 with 1501 views
Rita Ora looks unwilling to let go of Oprah whatever it is. Oprah doesn't look 100% about it either and looks like she's pulling Rita Ora away. But that's just because now these accusations have been made everything will look suspicious, even if it isn't.
From memory, The Butler was Weinstein wasn't it?
Yes, poor Rita still thinks Oprah's on her side....she'll learn.
Good luck, Mr Cooper
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Harvey Weinstein on 16:24 - Oct 12 with 1494 views
Rita Ora looks unwilling to let go of Oprah whatever it is. Oprah doesn't look 100% about it either and looks like she's pulling Rita Ora away. But that's just because now these accusations have been made everything will look suspicious, even if it isn't.
I mean I'm assuming that you're not making some sort of 'Oprah is gay so therefore is a predator' type comment?
No. I'm saying one of the most powerful women in Hollywood doesn't become one of the most powerful women in Hollywood by choosing to take the side of low level actresses over the most powerful men in Hollywood.
Also, one of the most powerful women in Hollywood knows what goes on amongst the other elite of Hollywood. Walls have ears.
And if you think one of the most powerful women in Hollywood would risk all that power to protect an actress/singer....then carry on living your fantasy. Hollywood is a cesspit and the people who get to the top are snakes.
Good luck, Mr Cooper
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Harvey Weinstein on 16:42 - Oct 12 with 1460 views
Neither does anyone else. Why is it only women being picked on?
It’s funny isn’t it? In a perverse kind of way. Hollywood mogul is outed as serial sex offender, all Planet Swans is interested in is how many women knew about it. Some on her have serious issues and should probably seek counselling for the safety of themselves and others.
No. I'm saying one of the most powerful women in Hollywood doesn't become one of the most powerful women in Hollywood by choosing to take the side of low level actresses over the most powerful men in Hollywood.
Also, one of the most powerful women in Hollywood knows what goes on amongst the other elite of Hollywood. Walls have ears.
And if you think one of the most powerful women in Hollywood would risk all that power to protect an actress/singer....then carry on living your fantasy. Hollywood is a cesspit and the people who get to the top are snakes.
Who knows who knew what.
I just find it odd that people are only choosing to focus on whether women knew or not and are not doing the same with men.
I agree that the industry is a cesspit. This is, I'm sure, the start of it. It's already reaching out.
As for Oprah - I've no idea what she does or doesn't know. Only she will (and possibly her best friend Gayle, of course). Although I agree with the premise about powerful people in general.
The secrecy in that industry is astonishing though. How they manage to hide stuff is incredible. I mean not just abuse, but the reality of people's lives. Travolta. Cruise. Clooney. Will Smith. So many stars that seem to have completely manufactured realities in different ways.
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Harvey Weinstein on 16:50 - Oct 12 with 1450 views
It’s funny isn’t it? In a perverse kind of way. Hollywood mogul is outed as serial sex offender, all Planet Swans is interested in is how many women knew about it. Some on her have serious issues and should probably seek counselling for the safety of themselves and others.
I'm not interested in how many women knew about it but I am interested in why some extremely powerful Hollywood women with nothing to lose that knew about it never said anything about it.
The first ever recipient of a Planet Swans Lifetime Achievement Award.
Why do you say Oprah knew? Because she worked with him? So did every other film star in America and virtually all in the U.K. as well.
Yes. And I'm willing to bet most of those knew as well (or at least heard rumours). People have been speaking out about the abuse in Hollywood for years. But powerful people donate to politicians, they rub shoulders with Jeffery Epstein, the journalist don't want to upset them...they need actors to interview.
Good luck, Mr Cooper
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Harvey Weinstein on 16:51 - Oct 12 with 1442 views
I'm not interested in how many women knew about it but I am interested in why some extremely powerful Hollywood women with nothing to lose that knew about it never said anything about it.
What about powerful Hollywood men? Don’t you care how many of them knew about it and did nothing?
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