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Catalonia declares independence. 14:44 - Oct 27 with 13678 viewsLohengrin

Here we go then, buckle up...

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Catalonia declares independence. on 14:47 - Oct 27 with 3930 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Viva la revolution

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Catalonia declares independence. on 16:29 - Oct 27 with 3834 viewsLord_Bony

How the hell are they going to be a legally recognised constitutional Independent state?

The government of Spain won't allow this to happen, besides only a small turnout of 43% does not constitute a fair and legally representative vote, another one at the very least should take place.

It's like the south-east of England declaring itself independent of the rest of the UK...this is the powerhouse where most of the money and revenue is raised for the country,exactly the same situation as Catalonia and Spain. The main cities of Barcelona and Valencia are huge and generate so much money for the rest of Spain , It's understandable why they want to keep it all for themselves after all.

The only option open now to the Spanish government is intervention into the Catalonian parliament by force in order to prevent various processes taking place that would allow it to become constitutionally established as a legal entity. Do they have the balls to do this? Let's wait and see.

A new Spanish Civil War maybe on the horizon.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 16:38 - Oct 27 with 3822 viewsNOTRAC

I think that the heavy handiness of the police during the referendum stopped people from voting.In reality however, as far as the outside world was concerned, the police attitude was a propaganda nightmare.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 16:41 - Oct 27 with 3812 viewsmax936

I'm sensing that you think that this isn't gonna end well

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Catalonia declares independence. on 16:42 - Oct 27 with 3804 viewsLohengrin

Catalonia declares independence. on 16:29 - Oct 27 by Lord_Bony

How the hell are they going to be a legally recognised constitutional Independent state?

The government of Spain won't allow this to happen, besides only a small turnout of 43% does not constitute a fair and legally representative vote, another one at the very least should take place.

It's like the south-east of England declaring itself independent of the rest of the UK...this is the powerhouse where most of the money and revenue is raised for the country,exactly the same situation as Catalonia and Spain. The main cities of Barcelona and Valencia are huge and generate so much money for the rest of Spain , It's understandable why they want to keep it all for themselves after all.

The only option open now to the Spanish government is intervention into the Catalonian parliament by force in order to prevent various processes taking place that would allow it to become constitutionally established as a legal entity. Do they have the balls to do this? Let's wait and see.

A new Spanish Civil War maybe on the horizon.


I think your geography is a little wayward there, M'Lud. Valencia is way south of Catalonia on the Costa del Azhar.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 17:27 - Oct 27 with 3706 viewsKilkennyjack

Catalonia declares independence. on 16:29 - Oct 27 by Lord_Bony

How the hell are they going to be a legally recognised constitutional Independent state?

The government of Spain won't allow this to happen, besides only a small turnout of 43% does not constitute a fair and legally representative vote, another one at the very least should take place.

It's like the south-east of England declaring itself independent of the rest of the UK...this is the powerhouse where most of the money and revenue is raised for the country,exactly the same situation as Catalonia and Spain. The main cities of Barcelona and Valencia are huge and generate so much money for the rest of Spain , It's understandable why they want to keep it all for themselves after all.

The only option open now to the Spanish government is intervention into the Catalonian parliament by force in order to prevent various processes taking place that would allow it to become constitutionally established as a legal entity. Do they have the balls to do this? Let's wait and see.

A new Spanish Civil War maybe on the horizon.


If the south-east of England had its own history, language and culture (sic), you would still be missing the point.

The turn out was seemingly low due to the intimidation.
It was actually very high given the brutality that we have all seen.

Spain cannot simply ‘jail a nation’ against its democratic will.

I am sure they could work together for the common good.
Spain has mismanaged this on a Mick McCarthy as Ireland manager scale of incompetence.

Power to the people.

Beware of the Risen People

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Catalonia declares independence. on 18:07 - Oct 27 with 3682 viewswhoflungdung

And to the people in other regions of Spain who do not want them to cecede


Still, all the ingredients for a civil war where the Sovereign state is the bully


Galicia,Andalusia also have seperate identities but because they are poor regions they can't go it alone


Catalonia seems selfish and I democratic but rebels worldwide will disagree

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Catalonia declares independence. on 18:52 - Oct 27 with 3640 viewsFlashberryjack

I wonder if Catalonia will remain a member of the EU ?

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Catalonia declares independence. on 19:04 - Oct 27 with 3627 viewspikeypaul

Catalonia declares independence. on 18:52 - Oct 27 by Flashberryjack

I wonder if Catalonia will remain a member of the EU ?


They would need a unanimous vote from the other 28 countries to join.
I doubt if Spain would agree.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 19:06 - Oct 27 with 3621 viewsexiledclaseboy

I’ve no particular view on Catalan independence but there’s no doubt this has been spectacularly badly handled on both sides, but particularly the Spanish government. This can’t end well for anyone.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 19:29 - Oct 27 with 3594 viewsdickythorpe

Where does this leave Cerys Matthews?
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Catalonia declares independence. on 19:52 - Oct 27 with 3565 viewsunion_jack

Catalonia declares independence. on 18:52 - Oct 27 by Flashberryjack

I wonder if Catalonia will remain a member of the EU ?


They most certainly will because they won't remain independent.

I am flabbergasted as to why small areas want independence from their larger identity. I appreciate the wealth of Catalonia may play a part but closer to home, I can't understand the Welsh or Scottish desire. It's ridiculous.

Kilkenny will undoubtedly put me right!!!

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Catalonia declares independence. on 19:53 - Oct 27 with 3563 viewslonglostjack

Catalonia declares independence. on 18:52 - Oct 27 by Flashberryjack

I wonder if Catalonia will remain a member of the EU ?


Why would that matter? They'll be able to do super trade deals outside the EU shirley ?

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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:00 - Oct 27 with 3545 viewsFlashberryjack

Catalonia declares independence. on 19:53 - Oct 27 by longlostjack

Why would that matter? They'll be able to do super trade deals outside the EU shirley ?


Hopefully with us and the rest of the world.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:03 - Oct 27 with 3542 viewsSY1973

Catalonia declares independence. on 17:27 - Oct 27 by Kilkennyjack

If the south-east of England had its own history, language and culture (sic), you would still be missing the point.

The turn out was seemingly low due to the intimidation.
It was actually very high given the brutality that we have all seen.

Spain cannot simply ‘jail a nation’ against its democratic will.

I am sure they could work together for the common good.
Spain has mismanaged this on a Mick McCarthy as Ireland manager scale of incompetence.

Power to the people.


The stink of hypocrisy from the likes of you is truly staggering. It’s ok for Catalonia to be independent and the Irish and the Scottish and the Welsh , but when it comes to British independence you cry like a little baby.
The eu cannot “jail a nation (UK) against its democratic will. (Your words) Pmsl.
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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:06 - Oct 27 with 3534 viewsSY1973

Catalonia declares independence. on 19:52 - Oct 27 by union_jack

They most certainly will because they won't remain independent.

I am flabbergasted as to why small areas want independence from their larger identity. I appreciate the wealth of Catalonia may play a part but closer to home, I can't understand the Welsh or Scottish desire. It's ridiculous.

Kilkenny will undoubtedly put me right!!!


There is no desire for Scottish or Welsh independence. The Scottish voted against independence in 2014. The Welsh would reject independence by around 90 plus percent.
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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:08 - Oct 27 with 3526 viewswhoflungdung

Its a rebel mentality ,a need to feel hate, a catharsis of the rot on the soul.

Catalonia is showing utter arrogance

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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:14 - Oct 27 with 3506 viewsSY1973

Independence for Catalonia, will be another nail in the coffin of the eu.
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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:15 - Oct 27 with 3502 viewsexiledclaseboy

Catalonia declares independence. on 20:14 - Oct 27 by SY1973

Independence for Catalonia, will be another nail in the coffin of the eu.


Which is a big part of the reason why it won’t be allowed to happen.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:16 - Oct 27 with 3476 viewsKilkennyjack

Catalonia declares independence. on 20:03 - Oct 27 by SY1973

The stink of hypocrisy from the likes of you is truly staggering. It’s ok for Catalonia to be independent and the Irish and the Scottish and the Welsh , but when it comes to British independence you cry like a little baby.
The eu cannot “jail a nation (UK) against its democratic will. (Your words) Pmsl.


I know you are a bit twp so let me help.

Uk voted to join Europe - so Uk joined Europe
Uk voted to leave Europe - so uk is leaving Europe

Catalonia votes to leave Spain.
Spain says you can’t leave.

Is that simple enough for you ?

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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:18 - Oct 27 with 3491 viewsSY1973

Catalonia declares independence. on 20:16 - Oct 27 by Kilkennyjack

I know you are a bit twp so let me help.

Uk voted to join Europe - so Uk joined Europe
Uk voted to leave Europe - so uk is leaving Europe

Catalonia votes to leave Spain.
Spain says you can’t leave.

Is that simple enough for you ?


When did the UK, vote to join the eu ?
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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:18 - Oct 27 with 3491 viewsunion_jack

Catalonia declares independence. on 20:06 - Oct 27 by SY1973

There is no desire for Scottish or Welsh independence. The Scottish voted against independence in 2014. The Welsh would reject independence by around 90 plus percent.


No, you're right. What I meant was why would anyone want it to happen.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:21 - Oct 27 with 3457 viewsKilkennyjack

Catalonia declares independence. on 20:06 - Oct 27 by SY1973

There is no desire for Scottish or Welsh independence. The Scottish voted against independence in 2014. The Welsh would reject independence by around 90 plus percent.


Brilliant.

Thats why the SNP runs Scotlands Government and sends nearly all the MPs to Westminster.

Once the older generations ‘pass’ ....then Scottish independence is inevitable.

You are right about Wales though.
We have stockholm syndrome as a nation.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:22 - Oct 27 with 3452 viewsKilkennyjack

Catalonia declares independence. on 20:18 - Oct 27 by SY1973

When did the UK, vote to join the eu ?


I said Europe 😂.

Go ask your beloved Mrs Thatcher - who loved our European friends. 😂😂

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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:24 - Oct 27 with 3467 viewswhoflungdung

Twp from a Welshman with a wicked hatred of the English and a warped hatred of Irish rebels( killers)


Read the Pearse poem he quotes

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