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Catalonia declares independence. 14:44 - Oct 27 with 13603 viewsLohengrin

Here we go then, buckle up...

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Catalonia declares independence. on 19:45 - Oct 30 with 2966 viewsSY1973

Catalonia declares independence. on 19:35 - Oct 30 by trampie

Corporations and individuals of course.


Pi$$ off, lower taxation not increase it.
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Catalonia declares independence. on 19:46 - Oct 30 with 2966 viewsPozuelosSideys

Catalonia declares independence. on 19:40 - Oct 30 by trampie

Yes I know but in some cases they need to be taxed more.

What extra new taxes would you be proposing ?


Says who? Who should be taxed more?

I wouldnt propose any new taxes, as Lisa has said, there is plenty of uncollected tax out there already

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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:01 - Oct 30 with 2939 viewstrampie

Catalonia declares independence. on 19:46 - Oct 30 by PozuelosSideys

Says who? Who should be taxed more?

I wouldnt propose any new taxes, as Lisa has said, there is plenty of uncollected tax out there already


Says trampie, the amount of taxes paid by the likes of Amazon, Google, Starbucks etc has been well documented, surely that has got to stop.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:07 - Oct 30 with 2940 viewslondonlisa2001

Catalonia declares independence. on 20:01 - Oct 30 by trampie

Says trampie, the amount of taxes paid by the likes of Amazon, Google, Starbucks etc has been well documented, surely that has got to stop.


That's a collection issue, not an increase issue. As I said some time ago.

If you increase corporation tax Starbucks don't pay more, the bloke that's set up a business that employs 5 people pays more.
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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:18 - Oct 30 with 2917 viewstrampie

Catalonia declares independence. on 20:07 - Oct 30 by londonlisa2001

That's a collection issue, not an increase issue. As I said some time ago.

If you increase corporation tax Starbucks don't pay more, the bloke that's set up a business that employs 5 people pays more.


The firm's claimed they played by the rules, therefore they paid what they were required to pay.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:19 - Oct 30 with 2924 viewslondonlisa2001

Catalonia declares independence. on 20:18 - Oct 30 by trampie

The firm's claimed they played by the rules, therefore they paid what they were required to pay.


Nothing to do with tax rates.
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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:23 - Oct 30 with 2909 viewstrampie

Catalonia declares independence. on 20:19 - Oct 30 by londonlisa2001

Nothing to do with tax rates.


If they were paying what they were required to pay it was not a collection issue.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:34 - Oct 30 with 2900 viewslondonlisa2001

Catalonia declares independence. on 20:23 - Oct 30 by trampie

If they were paying what they were required to pay it was not a collection issue.


Yes Trampie it is.

Collection doesn't only mean ringing them up and asking for money.
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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:40 - Oct 30 with 2894 viewsPozuelosSideys

Catalonia declares independence. on 20:34 - Oct 30 by londonlisa2001

Yes Trampie it is.

Collection doesn't only mean ringing them up and asking for money.


Taxman: Hi Vodafone, this is the UK taxman. Can you pay your taxes please? Trampie said so

Vodafone: Hi Taxman, we have complied with UK legislation and paid the due amount of tax in the UK

Taxman: Oh really, you seem to have only paid 0.000001% on PBT earned in the UK, is that correct?

Vodafone: Yes it is. We didnt earn very much profit in the UK as you can see. But we did receive a loan from our marketing departments in Ireland and Luxembourg, and we decided to pay that much lower rate of tax there, so piss off.

Taxman: Ok. Thanks. Bye

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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:42 - Oct 30 with 2890 viewslondonlisa2001

Catalonia declares independence. on 20:40 - Oct 30 by PozuelosSideys

Taxman: Hi Vodafone, this is the UK taxman. Can you pay your taxes please? Trampie said so

Vodafone: Hi Taxman, we have complied with UK legislation and paid the due amount of tax in the UK

Taxman: Oh really, you seem to have only paid 0.000001% on PBT earned in the UK, is that correct?

Vodafone: Yes it is. We didnt earn very much profit in the UK as you can see. But we did receive a loan from our marketing departments in Ireland and Luxembourg, and we decided to pay that much lower rate of tax there, so piss off.

Taxman: Ok. Thanks. Bye


The worrying thing is I suspect Leanne thinks the same.
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Catalonia declares independence. on 21:09 - Oct 30 with 2867 viewslonglostjack

Catalonia declares independence. on 20:42 - Oct 30 by londonlisa2001

The worrying thing is I suspect Leanne thinks the same.


How about taxing the operating profits of these corporations? Accountants would love the idea. Garlic and Dracula springs to mind.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 21:41 - Oct 30 with 2830 viewstrampie

Catalonia declares independence. on 20:34 - Oct 30 by londonlisa2001

Yes Trampie it is.

Collection doesn't only mean ringing them up and asking for money.


The taxman collected what he was required to collect, no collection issue.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 22:09 - Oct 30 with 2821 viewsJoe_bradshaw

Mega rich individuals and multinational corporations have accountants who are too smart for the Inland Revenue and the politicians who legislate.

‘Twas ever thus.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 22:17 - Oct 30 with 2814 viewslonglostjack

Catalonia declares independence. on 22:09 - Oct 30 by Joe_bradshaw

Mega rich individuals and multinational corporations have accountants who are too smart for the Inland Revenue and the politicians who legislate.

‘Twas ever thus.


Plenty of sweetheart deals between corporations and HMRC. As for the Cotswold crowd - I agree twas ever thus.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 23:55 - Oct 30 with 2785 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Catalonian President seems to have legged it as Madrid charge ringleaders with sedition
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Catalonia declares independence. on 13:54 - Oct 31 with 2714 viewsLord_Bony

Catalonia declares independence. on 23:55 - Oct 30 by Brynmill_Jack

Catalonian President seems to have legged it as Madrid charge ringleaders with sedition
[Post edited 30 Oct 2017 23:56]


Turned out just as I predicted.

It's over for the time being but don't forget the big vote is coming up in December that will decide this issue once and for all.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 14:59 - Oct 31 with 2694 viewsHighjack

Catalonia declares independence. on 13:54 - Oct 31 by Lord_Bony

Turned out just as I predicted.

It's over for the time being but don't forget the big vote is coming up in December that will decide this issue once and for all.


If Catalonia votes for independence people like kilkennyjack will proclaim a great day for democracy, the people have spoken etc.

If Catalonia votes for unity then the vote was fixed, Russian influence, fake news, stupid old poor racist white people etc, and we should overturn the vote.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 18:46 - Oct 31 with 2668 viewsPozuelosSideys

So some of the Catalan politicians have run off to Belgium where they are "not seeking asylum", where to the rest of us it kinda does look like they are seeking politicial asylum. How does that work then?

A set of people from one European country seeking asylum in another European country. That cant be right, can it?

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Catalonia declares independence. on 19:17 - Oct 31 with 2637 viewswhoflungdung

And these are the putative leaders of a new would be sovereign country

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Catalonia declares independence. on 00:31 - Nov 2 with 2573 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Catalonia declares independence. on 14:59 - Oct 31 by Highjack

If Catalonia votes for independence people like kilkennyjack will proclaim a great day for democracy, the people have spoken etc.

If Catalonia votes for unity then the vote was fixed, Russian influence, fake news, stupid old poor racist white people etc, and we should overturn the vote.


I remember when the Church of Wales (including the Laity) voted against female Bishops and Dr Barry Morgan the Archbishop openly said he'd just repeat the vote until he got what he wanted. Democracy is so easily subverted

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Catalonia declares independence. on 12:00 - Nov 2 with 2532 viewsHighjack

Catalonia declares independence. on 00:31 - Nov 2 by Brynmill_Jack

I remember when the Church of Wales (including the Laity) voted against female Bishops and Dr Barry Morgan the Archbishop openly said he'd just repeat the vote until he got what he wanted. Democracy is so easily subverted


Indeed, corruption rules supreme, but what is the alternative?

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Catalonia declares independence. on 17:59 - Nov 2 with 2508 viewswhoflungdung

So the Leader of this revolution stays away with no sign of returning soon to face up to what s coming next .

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Catalonia declares independence. on 18:01 - Nov 2 with 2506 viewsHighjack

If they truely believed in their cause they'd hand themselves in for arrest, it would boost their cause immeasurably.

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Catalonia declares independence. on 20:22 - Apr 23 with 2035 viewstrampie

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