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1:19 pm today was the exact mid point from when the result that the Great British public had decided to leave the EU and the time 11pm March 29th 2019 that Democracy will be delivered.

Happy days.
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The Countdown begins. on 10:14 - Sep 20 with 384 viewspikeypaul

The Countdown begins. on 09:31 - Sep 20 by Jango

Yet they choose to ignore the £9m spent by Cameron on leaflets.


Exactly.

One rule for one and another for the remoaners they are made up of.

£9 million of tax payers money thrown at remain and they still lost .

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The Countdown begins. on 10:20 - Sep 20 with 370 viewspikeypaul

The Countdown begins. on 09:47 - Sep 20 by Catullus

Who said anything about a trade war?

You think they were misled because you choose too, you can't accept that the leavers believed anything other than lies. What about the remain lies, you seem to have swallowed them hook line and sinker and how many remain predictions have yet to come true?

As for the brexit arguments, like you say.....nobody knows. I chose leave because I believed it was the right choice. What I hate is the insults that are routinely thrown by either side when the truth is no one can be sure remining is a better choice either.
Apply project fear to the EU,

What if the unstable south European countries withdraw from the Euro and it collapses

What if the far right get into power in more countries and have a referendum and the EU collapses

What if the far right cause so much trouble law and order breaks down

What if Greece and Italy just leave the EU, Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic and Sweden, all have rising right wing Eurosceptic parties.

What if the EU causes "bullets to fly across Europe" as Cameron predicted voting leave would?

Maybe if remain had been less negative more people like me would have voted differently but when the biggest argument for staying uses fear and bullying, it doesn't really stand up to scrutiny either.
Face it, everybody was misled and deriding 17 million people as stupid because they made a different choice isn't really the brightest thing to do.


Game set and match to Cattallus.

Battersea put back in his box big time.

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The Countdown begins. on 10:20 - Sep 20 with 362 viewspeenemunde

The Countdown begins. on 10:13 - Sep 20 by Batterseajack

We still don't even know what Brexit is yet. So how do you know it will be a success if you don;t know what "it" is?

There's also no evidence that suggests we'd be better off outside of the EU.


You have just destroyed your own argument, by saying you don’t know what Brexit is.
So you’re admitting by saying that, that Brexit could be fantastic.
Well done, the most sensible thing you have ever said on here.
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The Countdown begins. on 10:21 - Sep 20 with 365 viewspikeypaul

The Countdown begins. on 10:11 - Sep 20 by Batterseajack

Give up with you. What do you think raising tariffs on the EU if they don't give us a free trade deal?

I'm not wasting my time with you any more.


Because he’s just fecking owned you

And you have shown us all you know jack shite.

Back in your box boy.

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The Countdown begins. on 10:24 - Sep 20 with 352 viewsCatullus

The Countdown begins. on 10:11 - Sep 20 by Batterseajack

Give up with you. What do you think raising tariffs on the EU if they don't give us a free trade deal?

I'm not wasting my time with you any more.


We either agree a deal or go to WTO rules, that's not necessarily a trade war. Not unless us and the EU try to deliberately damage each others economies. Maybe that will happen, maybe the EU intend that as part of the deal but it's not a given.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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The Countdown begins. on 10:27 - Sep 20 with 344 viewsShaky

Good news folks; Liam Fox wants to use ancient undemocratic powers to ram chlorinated chicken and GMO foods down out throats :
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Liam Fox is plotting to scrap EU food standards to win a Brexit trade deal with Trump
Adam Payne, Ben Gartside

Business insider, 20 Sep 2018 5 minuten 118

* Exclusive: Liam Fox is planning to scrap EU food standards using controversial “Henry the 8th” powers, multiple sources have told Business Insider.
*The UK trade secretary wants to use government powers to rewrite UK food standards in order to strike a post-Brexit trade deal with the Trump administration.
* Sources claim Fox wants to alter food standards through the Trade Bill. A government spokesperson denied the bill would be used to lower standards.
* Labour accuses Fox of risking putting UK “farmers and food producers out of business.”
* The UK will need to lower its food standards to sign a comprehensive trade deal with the US.

LONDON – Liam Fox is planning to use controversial “Henry VIII” powers to scrap European food standards in order to pave the way for a trade deal with the US after Brexit.

Theresa May’s government has insisted that they will not water down EU regulations which currently prohibit the sale of products such as chlorinated chicken and hormone-injected beef in Britain.

However, Fox and Crawford Falconer, the UK’s chief trade negotiation adviser, have privately discussed rewriting UK food standards through the upcoming Trade Bill, a well-placed source with Fox’s Department for International Trade told Business Insider.

The Trade Secretary plans to use statutory instruments which allow the government to rewrite parts of legislation without a vote in parliament, in order to alter the bill once it has been voted on by MPs.

Fox’s plans were confirmed by another government source as well as two sources who work closely with his department.

“Nothing is completely off the table. We are going to keep the same high level of health and safety standards but we are on course to negotiate with the US for an FTA and that will require compromise,” a government source said.

UK food standards currently mirror those of the EU. The EU enforces stringent rules and regulations on food and the environment. These prohibit contentious agricultural products like chlorine-washed chicken and hormone-treated beef from entering EU markets, including the UK’s.

However, Fox believes the UK should diverge from EU rules after Brexit in order to sign wide-ranging free trade deals with countries with lower standards.

Trade experts have warned that any post-Brexit UK-US trade deal will likely require the UK to abandon the EU’s food standards. Sir Peter Westmacott, the UK’s former ambassador to the US, told BI that US-produced agricultural products would also be produced at a “relatively low cost,” posing a threat to UK farmers.

A government spokesperson denied that the Trade bill would be used to lower food standards after Brexit.

“It is not true that the Trade Bill will lower UK food standards and to suggest otherwise is false,” they said.

Fox has previously defended the potential sale of chlorinated chicken in the UK.

“There are no health reasons why you couldn’t eat chickens that have been washed in chlorinated water,” the Trade Secretary told MPs last year.

However, Fox’s push to reduce UK food standards have been resisted by Michael Gove’s Department for Environment, who are wary that it would contradict Gove’s promise not to compromise environmental standards.

“DEFRA and DIT are not pals,” a source who has worked with DIT said.

“DEFRA have a big trade team now which sees its mandate as stopping DIT from doing silly things. BEIS (Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy) are also gearing up to battle DIT, but are further behind in the process.

Gove has previously publicly dismissed suggestions that the UK should lower standards in order to win a deal with the US.

“The Cabinet is agreed that there should be no compromise on high animal welfare and environmental standards. In America they cannot guarantee the same high standards in terms of how chickens are reared that we insist on here,” he told MPs last year.

“Unless there is a change in the American side, we would say that those animal welfare rules are things on which we will not compromise.”

Fox’s apparent determination to push ahead with plans to alter food standards after Brexit comes as the prime minister comes under renewed pressure to abandon plans to sign up Britain to continued regulatory alignment with the EU after Brexit.

The Initiative for Free Trade, a right-wing organisation with close links to Fox and US President Trump, will this week unveil proposals for a UK-US free trade deal based on cutting back food and environmental regulations.

Fox’s colleague, Treasury minister Liz Truss, reportedly told one of the think tanks involved in the proposals that the UK is being held back by “a thicket of regulation and control” and should pursue an “Anglo-American dream.”

The government’s opponents accused Fox and the government of setting up a “nightmare” scenario for British consumers.

“Theresa May has not even concluded a withdrawal agreement and already Liam Fox is seizing powers to lower our food and animal welfare standards and protections,” Barry Gardiner MP, Labour’s Shadow International Trade Secretary told BI.

“All in order to strike a quick and grubby trade deal with President Trump.

“When will the Tories understand that lower environmental standards, chlorine-washed chicken and hormone-fed beef is not a dream but a nightmare? Opening up our markets to big US agribusiness risks putting many of our farmers and food producers out of business and fundamentally damage our countryside.”

Labour MP Peter Kyle, a leading supporter of the People’s Vote campaign, told BI: “In the UK we are rightly proud of the high-quality, world-class food we produce. Our farmers do not want to reduce standards or to allow cheaply-produced, lower quality imports to flood the market just to appease the likes of Donald Trump.”

“Our food production and environmental standards must not be carved up at the whims of Liam Fox.”

A senior source in the House of Lords warned that peers would also block any move by Fox to redesign the country’s food standards using Henry VIII powers.”It will go down like a bucket of sick,” they told BI.

“For Henry VIII powers to be abused like that would go down very badly in the House of Lords.”

https://www.businessinsider.nl/liam-fox-trade-deal-scrap-european-union-food-sta

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The Countdown begins. on 10:28 - Sep 20 with 341 viewsShaky


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The Countdown begins. on 10:31 - Sep 20 with 333 viewspikeypaul

Copy and paste boy is back just when his mate has been destroyed.

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The Countdown begins. on 10:35 - Sep 20 with 328 viewsShaky

The Countdown begins. on 10:31 - Sep 20 by pikeypaul

Copy and paste boy is back just when his mate has been destroyed.

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Believe I must have missed that Pike. Who was destroyed and how?

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The Countdown begins. on 10:39 - Sep 20 with 318 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 10:31 - Sep 20 by pikeypaul

Copy and paste boy is back just when his mate has been destroyed.

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Destroyed? what planet are you on.

You divs repeatedly say that forecasts are useless, yet you all forecast the collapse of the EU based on the rise of a couple of populist parties here and there in the smaller eastern countries.

And when Greece had their referendums, it was to leave the euro, not the EU. Leaving the EU was never a consideration for them. And since we're not in the Euro, we're not exposed to it.
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The Countdown begins. on 10:40 - Sep 20 with 318 viewsCatullus

The Countdown begins. on 10:27 - Sep 20 by Shaky

Good news folks; Liam Fox wants to use ancient undemocratic powers to ram chlorinated chicken and GMO foods down out throats :
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Liam Fox is plotting to scrap EU food standards to win a Brexit trade deal with Trump
Adam Payne, Ben Gartside

Business insider, 20 Sep 2018 5 minuten 118

* Exclusive: Liam Fox is planning to scrap EU food standards using controversial “Henry the 8th” powers, multiple sources have told Business Insider.
*The UK trade secretary wants to use government powers to rewrite UK food standards in order to strike a post-Brexit trade deal with the Trump administration.
* Sources claim Fox wants to alter food standards through the Trade Bill. A government spokesperson denied the bill would be used to lower standards.
* Labour accuses Fox of risking putting UK “farmers and food producers out of business.”
* The UK will need to lower its food standards to sign a comprehensive trade deal with the US.

LONDON – Liam Fox is planning to use controversial “Henry VIII” powers to scrap European food standards in order to pave the way for a trade deal with the US after Brexit.

Theresa May’s government has insisted that they will not water down EU regulations which currently prohibit the sale of products such as chlorinated chicken and hormone-injected beef in Britain.

However, Fox and Crawford Falconer, the UK’s chief trade negotiation adviser, have privately discussed rewriting UK food standards through the upcoming Trade Bill, a well-placed source with Fox’s Department for International Trade told Business Insider.

The Trade Secretary plans to use statutory instruments which allow the government to rewrite parts of legislation without a vote in parliament, in order to alter the bill once it has been voted on by MPs.

Fox’s plans were confirmed by another government source as well as two sources who work closely with his department.

“Nothing is completely off the table. We are going to keep the same high level of health and safety standards but we are on course to negotiate with the US for an FTA and that will require compromise,” a government source said.

UK food standards currently mirror those of the EU. The EU enforces stringent rules and regulations on food and the environment. These prohibit contentious agricultural products like chlorine-washed chicken and hormone-treated beef from entering EU markets, including the UK’s.

However, Fox believes the UK should diverge from EU rules after Brexit in order to sign wide-ranging free trade deals with countries with lower standards.

Trade experts have warned that any post-Brexit UK-US trade deal will likely require the UK to abandon the EU’s food standards. Sir Peter Westmacott, the UK’s former ambassador to the US, told BI that US-produced agricultural products would also be produced at a “relatively low cost,” posing a threat to UK farmers.

A government spokesperson denied that the Trade bill would be used to lower food standards after Brexit.

“It is not true that the Trade Bill will lower UK food standards and to suggest otherwise is false,” they said.

Fox has previously defended the potential sale of chlorinated chicken in the UK.

“There are no health reasons why you couldn’t eat chickens that have been washed in chlorinated water,” the Trade Secretary told MPs last year.

However, Fox’s push to reduce UK food standards have been resisted by Michael Gove’s Department for Environment, who are wary that it would contradict Gove’s promise not to compromise environmental standards.

“DEFRA and DIT are not pals,” a source who has worked with DIT said.

“DEFRA have a big trade team now which sees its mandate as stopping DIT from doing silly things. BEIS (Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy) are also gearing up to battle DIT, but are further behind in the process.

Gove has previously publicly dismissed suggestions that the UK should lower standards in order to win a deal with the US.

“The Cabinet is agreed that there should be no compromise on high animal welfare and environmental standards. In America they cannot guarantee the same high standards in terms of how chickens are reared that we insist on here,” he told MPs last year.

“Unless there is a change in the American side, we would say that those animal welfare rules are things on which we will not compromise.”

Fox’s apparent determination to push ahead with plans to alter food standards after Brexit comes as the prime minister comes under renewed pressure to abandon plans to sign up Britain to continued regulatory alignment with the EU after Brexit.

The Initiative for Free Trade, a right-wing organisation with close links to Fox and US President Trump, will this week unveil proposals for a UK-US free trade deal based on cutting back food and environmental regulations.

Fox’s colleague, Treasury minister Liz Truss, reportedly told one of the think tanks involved in the proposals that the UK is being held back by “a thicket of regulation and control” and should pursue an “Anglo-American dream.”

The government’s opponents accused Fox and the government of setting up a “nightmare” scenario for British consumers.

“Theresa May has not even concluded a withdrawal agreement and already Liam Fox is seizing powers to lower our food and animal welfare standards and protections,” Barry Gardiner MP, Labour’s Shadow International Trade Secretary told BI.

“All in order to strike a quick and grubby trade deal with President Trump.

“When will the Tories understand that lower environmental standards, chlorine-washed chicken and hormone-fed beef is not a dream but a nightmare? Opening up our markets to big US agribusiness risks putting many of our farmers and food producers out of business and fundamentally damage our countryside.”

Labour MP Peter Kyle, a leading supporter of the People’s Vote campaign, told BI: “In the UK we are rightly proud of the high-quality, world-class food we produce. Our farmers do not want to reduce standards or to allow cheaply-produced, lower quality imports to flood the market just to appease the likes of Donald Trump.”

“Our food production and environmental standards must not be carved up at the whims of Liam Fox.”

A senior source in the House of Lords warned that peers would also block any move by Fox to redesign the country’s food standards using Henry VIII powers.”It will go down like a bucket of sick,” they told BI.

“For Henry VIII powers to be abused like that would go down very badly in the House of Lords.”

https://www.businessinsider.nl/liam-fox-trade-deal-scrap-european-union-food-sta


These "multiple sources" wouldn't happen to be remain supporters then, you know, spreading lies to discredit brexit......more project fear.

Multiple but unknown sources, Danny Dyer.....who's next in the remain camp, the tooth fairy, the Gruffalo.....Billy Liar.....oh wait!!

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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The Countdown begins. on 10:47 - Sep 20 with 306 viewspeenemunde

The Countdown begins. on 10:39 - Sep 20 by Batterseajack

Destroyed? what planet are you on.

You divs repeatedly say that forecasts are useless, yet you all forecast the collapse of the EU based on the rise of a couple of populist parties here and there in the smaller eastern countries.

And when Greece had their referendums, it was to leave the euro, not the EU. Leaving the EU was never a consideration for them. And since we're not in the Euro, we're not exposed to it.


When did the British people ever vote to join the eu ?
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The Countdown begins. on 10:51 - Sep 20 with 305 viewsBytholWyn

This is what is so laughable about the whole Brexit fiasco - we're desperate to escape Brussels clutches only to immediately fall into the arms of Trumpist USA. This is the wet dream of all hard right politicians - a low regulation trade deal (in which the USA calls all the shots needless to say) which tears down all the environmental and safety regulations for which the EU can rightly feel proud - just so that the rich sponsors of the right-wing politicians on either side of the Atlantic can enjoy even greater riches at the expense of the public at large.

This is the choice we're facing - being a significant member of a free trade block with a commitment to proper consumer and environmental standards or a small player in a World Order where we have to kowtow to the demands of the big players - including of course the rest of the EU.

It's time to get real, the UK is a medium-sized country whose power is inevitably going to diminish as other, more populous countries catch up. That need not be such a terrible thing - plenty of other countries in Europe (notably the Netherlands, Denmark and Sweden) have reconciled themselves to their loss of colonial power and have constructed a future based on progressive values. I see nothing whatsoever in the narrative around Brexit to suggest that it is anything other than a hard-right, regressive project - designed to further deepen the gulf in wealth and opportunity that already exists between the haves and the have nots.

I challenge the Brexiteers to come up with one progressive reason for Brexit.
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The Countdown begins. on 11:06 - Sep 20 with 285 viewspeenemunde

The Countdown begins. on 10:51 - Sep 20 by BytholWyn

This is what is so laughable about the whole Brexit fiasco - we're desperate to escape Brussels clutches only to immediately fall into the arms of Trumpist USA. This is the wet dream of all hard right politicians - a low regulation trade deal (in which the USA calls all the shots needless to say) which tears down all the environmental and safety regulations for which the EU can rightly feel proud - just so that the rich sponsors of the right-wing politicians on either side of the Atlantic can enjoy even greater riches at the expense of the public at large.

This is the choice we're facing - being a significant member of a free trade block with a commitment to proper consumer and environmental standards or a small player in a World Order where we have to kowtow to the demands of the big players - including of course the rest of the EU.

It's time to get real, the UK is a medium-sized country whose power is inevitably going to diminish as other, more populous countries catch up. That need not be such a terrible thing - plenty of other countries in Europe (notably the Netherlands, Denmark and Sweden) have reconciled themselves to their loss of colonial power and have constructed a future based on progressive values. I see nothing whatsoever in the narrative around Brexit to suggest that it is anything other than a hard-right, regressive project - designed to further deepen the gulf in wealth and opportunity that already exists between the haves and the have nots.

I challenge the Brexiteers to come up with one progressive reason for Brexit.


Progressive ? Isn’t that a word people like Tony Blair use to justify the destruction of the nation state and to justify globalisation which means countries like the U.K. are forced to give away part of its wealth which results in lower living standards.

If you still want to live in the eu you can.......👍
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The Countdown begins. on 11:36 - Sep 20 with 276 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 10:09 - Sep 20 by peenemunde

Obviously my reply went over your head too, little hands.


Shut up Benny, you’re out of your depth.
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The Countdown begins. on 12:34 - Sep 20 with 241 viewspeenemunde

The Countdown begins. on 11:36 - Sep 20 by WarwickHunt

Shut up Benny, you’re out of your depth.


What with you 🤣
Did you ever meet Jimmy Savile through your work ?
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The Countdown begins. on 12:52 - Sep 20 with 231 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 12:34 - Sep 20 by peenemunde

What with you 🤣
Did you ever meet Jimmy Savile through your work ?


Grow up, you colossal fùcking twàt.
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The Countdown begins. on 13:05 - Sep 20 with 225 viewspeenemunde

The Countdown begins. on 12:52 - Sep 20 by WarwickHunt

Grow up, you colossal fùcking twàt.


🤣I was only asking.
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The Countdown begins. on 13:22 - Sep 20 with 209 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 13:05 - Sep 20 by peenemunde

🤣I was only asking.


Sex still a mystery to you, Benny? Ask Miss Dianne to show you her knickers...
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The Countdown begins. on 13:27 - Sep 20 with 203 viewspikeypaul

The Countdown begins. on 10:47 - Sep 20 by peenemunde

When did the British people ever vote to join the eu ?


We never did .

But one thing is for sure the British people have now voted to come out.

Something some of the pathetic remoaners stil have not got over and still crying like little babies about.

The sooner they accept reality the sooner they get over their grief,acceptance is the first stage of the healing process yet over 2 years later they still have not got on this 1st stage.

I find it fecking hilarious .

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The Countdown begins. on 13:32 - Sep 20 with 201 viewspeenemunde

The Countdown begins. on 13:22 - Sep 20 by WarwickHunt

Sex still a mystery to you, Benny? Ask Miss Dianne to show you her knickers...


No doubt the sex that you like is a mystery to me .🤣
Thankfully.
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The Countdown begins. on 13:38 - Sep 20 with 192 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 13:32 - Sep 20 by peenemunde

No doubt the sex that you like is a mystery to me .🤣
Thankfully.


Yep - I have sex with beautiful women without money changing hands. One or two you may have seen on the telly.
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The Countdown begins. on 13:52 - Sep 20 with 180 viewspeenemunde

The Countdown begins. on 13:38 - Sep 20 by WarwickHunt

Yep - I have sex with beautiful women without money changing hands. One or two you may have seen on the telly.


Whatever makes you feel proud I say. 🤣
You still haven’t answered the question regarding Jimmy Savile ?
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The Countdown begins. on 14:03 - Sep 20 with 176 viewsHumpty

The Countdown begins. on 10:51 - Sep 20 by BytholWyn

This is what is so laughable about the whole Brexit fiasco - we're desperate to escape Brussels clutches only to immediately fall into the arms of Trumpist USA. This is the wet dream of all hard right politicians - a low regulation trade deal (in which the USA calls all the shots needless to say) which tears down all the environmental and safety regulations for which the EU can rightly feel proud - just so that the rich sponsors of the right-wing politicians on either side of the Atlantic can enjoy even greater riches at the expense of the public at large.

This is the choice we're facing - being a significant member of a free trade block with a commitment to proper consumer and environmental standards or a small player in a World Order where we have to kowtow to the demands of the big players - including of course the rest of the EU.

It's time to get real, the UK is a medium-sized country whose power is inevitably going to diminish as other, more populous countries catch up. That need not be such a terrible thing - plenty of other countries in Europe (notably the Netherlands, Denmark and Sweden) have reconciled themselves to their loss of colonial power and have constructed a future based on progressive values. I see nothing whatsoever in the narrative around Brexit to suggest that it is anything other than a hard-right, regressive project - designed to further deepen the gulf in wealth and opportunity that already exists between the haves and the have nots.

I challenge the Brexiteers to come up with one progressive reason for Brexit.


Excellent post sir.
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The Countdown begins. on 14:03 - Sep 20 with 176 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 13:52 - Sep 20 by peenemunde

Whatever makes you feel proud I say. 🤣
You still haven’t answered the question regarding Jimmy Savile ?


Stop sniggering and playing with yourself in the back there, you naughty little boy.

Like shooting fish in a barrel.
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