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1:19 pm today was the exact mid point from when the result that the Great British public had decided to leave the EU and the time 11pm March 29th 2019 that Democracy will be delivered.

Happy days.
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The Countdown begins. on 21:22 - Dec 12 with 757 viewsA_Fans_Dad

The Countdown begins. on 20:49 - Dec 12 by LeonWasGod

She’s put a deal on the table that takes us out of the EU, ends freedom of movement, and means we won’t have to pay £350m a week but can chose to spend that on the NHS instead.

Which were all cornerstones of the Brexiteers’ campaign. The same Brexiteers who are now trying to derail the deal, who don’t want Parliament to be sovereign and who are seeking to overturn the vote that put her in power.

You Brexiteer types are odd sorts.


You have a very selective view of the world.
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The Countdown begins. on 21:33 - Dec 12 with 734 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 21:22 - Dec 12 by A_Fans_Dad

You have a very selective view of the world.


Feel free to disprove any of that then
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The Countdown begins. on 21:35 - Dec 12 with 728 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 21:33 - Dec 12 by LeonWasGod

Feel free to disprove any of that then


Preferably without the usual random capital letters. They offend me.
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The Countdown begins. on 08:58 - Dec 13 with 643 viewspikeypaul

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The Countdown begins. on 09:03 - Dec 13 with 640 viewsShaky

Punch drunk OAP backs JRM style hard Brexit:


Misology -- It's a bitch
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The Countdown begins. on 09:13 - Dec 13 with 630 viewswestside

The Countdown begins. on 09:03 - Dec 13 by Shaky

Punch drunk OAP backs JRM style hard Brexit:



Some people have been taken in by JRM act but he's a nasty piece of work and part of the right wing tory poison that has created this mess.
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The Countdown begins. on 09:24 - Dec 13 with 621 viewsPegojack

The Countdown begins. on 09:03 - Dec 13 by Shaky

Punch drunk OAP backs JRM style hard Brexit:



Stick to football, Peter.

Good old patriotic Rees-Mogg. His enthusiasm for Brexit couldn't be anything to do with his hedge fund Somerset Capital Management being based in tax havens and therefore not paying any UK tax, a situation the EU is working hard to close down, could it? Surely not.

A Tory typical scumbag who is slightly more skilled than most of them in presenting an acceptable public face.
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The Countdown begins. on 09:31 - Dec 13 with 608 viewsShaky

The Countdown begins. on 09:24 - Dec 13 by Pegojack

Stick to football, Peter.

Good old patriotic Rees-Mogg. His enthusiasm for Brexit couldn't be anything to do with his hedge fund Somerset Capital Management being based in tax havens and therefore not paying any UK tax, a situation the EU is working hard to close down, could it? Surely not.

A Tory typical scumbag who is slightly more skilled than most of them in presenting an acceptable public face.
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It's also a bit like that old sketch with John Cleese and Ronnie Corbett.

JRM is clearly an upperclass toff, so a segment of a certain generation of working class Brits will in fact instinctively defer to him. They know their place, and it is to be taken advantage of by slimeballs like JRM.

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The Countdown begins. on 09:33 - Dec 13 with 606 viewsCatullus

The Countdown begins. on 21:33 - Dec 12 by LeonWasGod

Feel free to disprove any of that then


None of it was wrong it just left out some important bits, so yes, selective.

It left out the backstop clause which means we could be tied closely to the EU, be forced to stay in the customs union and obey EU rules until they (the EU) decide we can leave.
It also prevents us starting talks for trade deals until the day we leave which puts us at a significant disadvantage.

Those are the reasons why even remain politicians are against the deal. It is not a good deal and with a choice between that or revoking A50 and remaining even a blind man could see revoking and remaining are a better choice.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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The Countdown begins. on 09:39 - Dec 13 with 597 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 09:31 - Dec 13 by Shaky

It's also a bit like that old sketch with John Cleese and Ronnie Corbett.

JRM is clearly an upperclass toff, so a segment of a certain generation of working class Brits will in fact instinctively defer to him. They know their place, and it is to be taken advantage of by slimeballs like JRM.


So leave voters are stupid, racist, yesterday it was immature, todays it’s this. What’s in line for tomorrow?
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The Countdown begins. on 09:42 - Dec 13 with 592 viewsShaky

The Countdown begins. on 09:39 - Dec 13 by Jango

So leave voters are stupid, racist, yesterday it was immature, todays it’s this. What’s in line for tomorrow?


Sentimental fools?

[Post edited 13 Dec 2018 9:42]

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The Countdown begins. on 10:00 - Dec 13 with 574 viewsCatullus

The Countdown begins. on 09:42 - Dec 13 by Shaky

Sentimental fools?

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Heseltine is a huge remain supporter. Also, I'm ashamed to say, from West Cross. Not one of Swansea's finest sons.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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The Countdown begins. on 13:35 - Dec 13 with 522 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 10:00 - Dec 13 by Catullus

Heseltine is a huge remain supporter. Also, I'm ashamed to say, from West Cross. Not one of Swansea's finest sons.


He’s from Uplands Crescent, not West Cross.

Why are you ashamed he’s from Swansea? Because you disagree with him politically?
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The Countdown begins. on 14:02 - Dec 13 with 504 viewsProfessor

The Countdown begins. on 13:35 - Dec 13 by londonlisa2001

He’s from Uplands Crescent, not West Cross.

Why are you ashamed he’s from Swansea? Because you disagree with him politically?


I would disagree with him politically, but at least he has some integrity. The point he makes is very pertinent. 70% of old people potentially ruining the lives of 70% of young people
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The Countdown begins. on 14:15 - Dec 13 with 491 viewstrampie

The older generation have ruined this country, people that are pensioners now that voted Thatcher and then Blair, that generation sold our nationalised industries and housing stock for a song, paid themselves too much, gave themselves too many holidays, had final salary pensions, paid less and less taxes and still paid themselves benefits and services like swimming pools, parks, libraries etc not to mention free education and health.

This generation is paying for their excesses, I think the parents of todays pensioners the war generation that brought in the NHS and a radical socialist Government must be turning in their graves at what their children's generation have done, all for personal greed.


And now they have voted for Brexit against the younger generations wishes.
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Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
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The Countdown begins. on 14:25 - Dec 13 with 478 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 14:02 - Dec 13 by Professor

I would disagree with him politically, but at least he has some integrity. The point he makes is very pertinent. 70% of old people potentially ruining the lives of 70% of young people


I agree with him on some things and disagree on others.

He’s a bloody giant compared to the vacuous nonentities we are saddled with now though.

Heseltine or Raab? It’s a joke.

I just don’t understand all this ‘I’m ashamed he’s from Swansea’ stuff just because he’s politically different to others. It’s just nonsense.
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The Countdown begins. on 15:17 - Dec 13 with 441 viewstrampie






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The Countdown begins. on 17:16 - Dec 13 with 412 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 09:33 - Dec 13 by Catullus

None of it was wrong it just left out some important bits, so yes, selective.

It left out the backstop clause which means we could be tied closely to the EU, be forced to stay in the customs union and obey EU rules until they (the EU) decide we can leave.
It also prevents us starting talks for trade deals until the day we leave which puts us at a significant disadvantage.

Those are the reasons why even remain politicians are against the deal. It is not a good deal and with a choice between that or revoking A50 and remaining even a blind man could see revoking and remaining are a better choice.


I agree it’s not a good deal. The best deal we’re likely to get is the one we already have.
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The Countdown begins. on 17:30 - Dec 13 with 402 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 14:25 - Dec 13 by londonlisa2001

I agree with him on some things and disagree on others.

He’s a bloody giant compared to the vacuous nonentities we are saddled with now though.

Heseltine or Raab? It’s a joke.

I just don’t understand all this ‘I’m ashamed he’s from Swansea’ stuff just because he’s politically different to others. It’s just nonsense.


This a man who labelled UKIP and all its voters as racists.

“Of course they are racist, who doubts that? The language, the rhetoric, the membership, who doubts it?"

Also

“ They are racist operations pandering to the lowest common denominators in politics."

All because they are politically different to him. Nonsense don’t you think?
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The Countdown begins. on 17:41 - Dec 13 with 386 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 17:30 - Dec 13 by Jango

This a man who labelled UKIP and all its voters as racists.

“Of course they are racist, who doubts that? The language, the rhetoric, the membership, who doubts it?"

Also

“ They are racist operations pandering to the lowest common denominators in politics."

All because they are politically different to him. Nonsense don’t you think?


In your head there’s obviously an equivalence between that and what I said.

Unfortunately it’s not apparent to me.
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The Countdown begins. on 18:02 - Dec 13 with 377 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 15:17 - Dec 13 by trampie







Will “temporary” stop gap be politically binding or legally binding? May is betting on it being legally binding. I doubt that’s possible as it would go against the rationale of the backstop. Even if it were it wouldn’t change anything anyway. It still wouldn’t be enough for the Brextreemists in her Party.

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The Countdown begins. on 18:04 - Dec 13 with 376 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 14:15 - Dec 13 by trampie

The older generation have ruined this country, people that are pensioners now that voted Thatcher and then Blair, that generation sold our nationalised industries and housing stock for a song, paid themselves too much, gave themselves too many holidays, had final salary pensions, paid less and less taxes and still paid themselves benefits and services like swimming pools, parks, libraries etc not to mention free education and health.

This generation is paying for their excesses, I think the parents of todays pensioners the war generation that brought in the NHS and a radical socialist Government must be turning in their graves at what their children's generation have done, all for personal greed.


And now they have voted for Brexit against the younger generations wishes.
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Those might be the younger generations wishes Trampie but you might want to consider how many of that younger generation actually bothered to vote... meaning most simply don't give a toss.
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The Countdown begins. on 18:15 - Dec 13 with 366 viewsHumpty

The Countdown begins. on 17:30 - Dec 13 by Jango

This a man who labelled UKIP and all its voters as racists.

“Of course they are racist, who doubts that? The language, the rhetoric, the membership, who doubts it?"

Also

“ They are racist operations pandering to the lowest common denominators in politics."

All because they are politically different to him. Nonsense don’t you think?


The UKIP that appointed ex BNP member Tommy Robinson to be special adviser on Islam?

Racist and pandering to the lowest common denominator sounds about right to me.
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The Countdown begins. on 19:18 - Dec 13 with 332 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 17:41 - Dec 13 by londonlisa2001

In your head there’s obviously an equivalence between that and what I said.

Unfortunately it’s not apparent to me.


The fact you see a man, who labels people with a different political opinion to him as racists, as a giant of a man tells me all I need to know really. Especially when you criticise others for having a negative opinion of people who’s opinion differs to theirs.
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The Countdown begins. on 19:19 - Dec 13 with 328 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 18:15 - Dec 13 by Humpty

The UKIP that appointed ex BNP member Tommy Robinson to be special adviser on Islam?

Racist and pandering to the lowest common denominator sounds about right to me.


The UKIP party and its voters that heseltine is referring is totally different to the UKIP party today.
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