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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK 23:28 - Nov 10 with 796893 viewspikeypaul



And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

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The Countdown begins. on 18:50 - Dec 17 with 819 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 18:25 - Dec 17 by sherpajacob

The £39bn is not a, payment for a, trade deal.

It is settlement of commitments and liabilities we had previously agreed to.

Davis, mcvey, Tim Martin and others are being fraudulent in stating it doesn't have to be paid in the event of no deal.

They are essentially saying let's do a runner from the restaurant, but still expect to be able to book a table anytime they want in the future.

P.S., wtf does having a,knighthood have to do with it?
[Post edited 17 Dec 2018 18:27]


Restaurant? Flawed analogy.

If you do a runner from a restaurant having eaten then you have obtained services and failed to pay for them.

The money "owed" to EU is for *future* liabilities - as in paying for services we will not receive.

Your analogy would be more accurate if it was "agreed with owner of restaurant we'd be amenable to a nice bit of haliburt in an hours time, only to decide half an hour later we'd changed our minds prior to said food being cooked".
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The Countdown begins. on 19:12 - Dec 17 with 795 viewsHighjack

The Countdown begins. on 17:44 - Dec 17 by Batterseajack

Which is fine as its open and transparent. Can you tell me who funds the organisations that reside in 55 & 57 Tufton Street?

55 Tufton Street
Global Warming Policy Foundation
Civitas
TaxPayers’ Alliance
Business for Britain
Vote Leave
The European Foundation
UK2020
The New Culture Forum

57 Tufton Street
Centre for Policy Studies
Institute for Free Trade


You don’t need to tell me about the shady insidious nature of political campaigning on all sides.

If as you say it is open and transparent, then how does the action of pointing out the fact that Soros and his foundation are behind these political campaign groups usually gets met with denial and accusations of racism or anti semitism?

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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The Countdown begins. on 19:51 - Dec 17 with 762 viewslonglostjack

As if this entire farce isn’t confusing enough, the Guardian’s headline writer decides to add to it.


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The Countdown begins. on 20:52 - Dec 17 with 712 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 18:25 - Dec 17 by sherpajacob

The £39bn is not a, payment for a, trade deal.

It is settlement of commitments and liabilities we had previously agreed to.

Davis, mcvey, Tim Martin and others are being fraudulent in stating it doesn't have to be paid in the event of no deal.

They are essentially saying let's do a runner from the restaurant, but still expect to be able to book a table anytime they want in the future.

P.S., wtf does having a,knighthood have to do with it?
[Post edited 17 Dec 2018 18:27]


Well he wasn’t knighted for his ability to play squash. He’s highly experienced, highly respected and has honours coming out of his ass but we can file what he says under bull***t because Leon and Sherpa off planetswans said so.
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The Countdown begins. on 21:10 - Dec 17 with 694 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 18:50 - Dec 17 by bluey_the_blue

Restaurant? Flawed analogy.

If you do a runner from a restaurant having eaten then you have obtained services and failed to pay for them.

The money "owed" to EU is for *future* liabilities - as in paying for services we will not receive.

Your analogy would be more accurate if it was "agreed with owner of restaurant we'd be amenable to a nice bit of haliburt in an hours time, only to decide half an hour later we'd changed our minds prior to said food being cooked".


“The money "owed" to EU is for *future* liabilities - as in paying for services we will not receive”
Absolute bollocks. So it’s got nothing whatsoever to do with meeting contractual agreements that we signed up to then? I dread to think what would happen if the UK balked at paying up. Talk about being relegated from the top table, it would be the ultimate confirmation of our new Mickey Mouse status.

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The Countdown begins. on 21:37 - Dec 17 with 661 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 21:10 - Dec 17 by longlostjack

“The money "owed" to EU is for *future* liabilities - as in paying for services we will not receive”
Absolute bollocks. So it’s got nothing whatsoever to do with meeting contractual agreements that we signed up to then? I dread to think what would happen if the UK balked at paying up. Talk about being relegated from the top table, it would be the ultimate confirmation of our new Mickey Mouse status.

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We signed up for those agreements as part of the EU. Once we leave the EU, nothing to do with us anymore.

For example, part of the EU claim is for money to cover EU's pension deficit. Equally, as people want to act like this is akin to a divorce, nobody seems able to determine what Britain's share of the assets are.

I doubt anything others would say/do about us not paying would be worse than the very many Britains willing to decry Britain at every opportunity.
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The Countdown begins. on 21:47 - Dec 17 with 652 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 21:37 - Dec 17 by bluey_the_blue

We signed up for those agreements as part of the EU. Once we leave the EU, nothing to do with us anymore.

For example, part of the EU claim is for money to cover EU's pension deficit. Equally, as people want to act like this is akin to a divorce, nobody seems able to determine what Britain's share of the assets are.

I doubt anything others would say/do about us not paying would be worse than the very many Britains willing to decry Britain at every opportunity.


This is utter nonsense.

We have contractual obligations. If we choose to leave before the end of those obligations that’s our problem. If you take out a contract for a phone for two years and after 13 months say, you don’t want that phone any longer because you’ve found a bloke who swears blind he can give you the same service with two plastic cups and a piece of string and you’re stupid enough to believe him, you have to pay an exit fee from your contractual obligation.

If we don’t settle our obligation no one is going to trust us. In the same way as you reneging on a contract for credit will see you unable to take out more credit unless you pay a substantial premium because your credit rating will have tanked and you have to do business with a dodgy loan shark.
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The Countdown begins. on 21:54 - Dec 17 with 644 viewsbluey_the_blue

A phone contract is something with a fixed term cost. EU commitments are a tad more nebulous than that, I doubt anyone has gone over them with a fine toothcomb. I suspect most of the 39bn will be going to Juncker's bar bill / compensation to the women he harasses...
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The Countdown begins. on 22:01 - Dec 17 with 636 viewsexiledclaseboy

May’s plan, such as it is, is clear now. Hold the vote as late as possible to try and terrify MPs into accepting her deal for fear of being landed with the disaster of no deal. Most of her ministers know this is nonsense so are now going their own way in public. May leads a government that now exists in name only. Utterly impotent. Collective responsibility is dead.

Corbyn’s master plan is to be all useless and ineffective all the time. Today highlighted just how bereft of authority, strategy and sense both front benches are. What a f*cking mess

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The Countdown begins. on 22:02 - Dec 17 with 634 viewssherpajacob

The Countdown begins. on 20:52 - Dec 17 by Jango

Well he wasn’t knighted for his ability to play squash. He’s highly experienced, highly respected and has honours coming out of his ass but we can file what he says under bull***t because Leon and Sherpa off planetswans said so.


Fair play, if someone has a knighthood and OBE they must be a thoroughly good egg and entirely trustworthy.

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The Countdown begins. on 22:03 - Dec 17 with 629 viewsbluey_the_blue

Just don't get what Corbyn hopes to achieve with this vote. ERG and DUP won't back him, all it does is unify Tories. Even if he wins, it's non-binding anyway.

It's like he makes the minimum amount of effort in anything knowing social media will proclaim him for doing so.
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The Countdown begins. on 22:13 - Dec 17 with 611 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 21:54 - Dec 17 by bluey_the_blue

A phone contract is something with a fixed term cost. EU commitments are a tad more nebulous than that, I doubt anyone has gone over them with a fine toothcomb. I suspect most of the 39bn will be going to Juncker's bar bill / compensation to the women he harasses...


Juncker’s pervy treatment of women is a disgrace.

But the Tory party last week reinstated the whip to two men who have done far worse, so spare me the hypocrisy. You don’t care about women, you’re just using them as a proxy for your misguided agenda,

The EU exit fee is not nebulous, it’s a calculation of obligations that we have previously agreed.
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The Countdown begins. on 22:15 - Dec 17 with 601 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 22:03 - Dec 17 by bluey_the_blue

Just don't get what Corbyn hopes to achieve with this vote. ERG and DUP won't back him, all it does is unify Tories. Even if he wins, it's non-binding anyway.

It's like he makes the minimum amount of effort in anything knowing social media will proclaim him for doing so.


He’s exposing the hypocrisy of people like Rees Mogg who last week voted to get rid of her.

While continuing with his utter failure to be an actual political leader who gives a toss about anything other than his own ambition.
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The Countdown begins. on 22:17 - Dec 17 with 587 viewssherpajacob

The Countdown begins. on 22:03 - Dec 17 by bluey_the_blue

Just don't get what Corbyn hopes to achieve with this vote. ERG and DUP won't back him, all it does is unify Tories. Even if he wins, it's non-binding anyway.

It's like he makes the minimum amount of effort in anything knowing social media will proclaim him for doing so.


But Corbyn!

That's about the extent of the Tory position

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The Countdown begins. on 22:20 - Dec 17 with 575 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 22:13 - Dec 17 by londonlisa2001

Juncker’s pervy treatment of women is a disgrace.

But the Tory party last week reinstated the whip to two men who have done far worse, so spare me the hypocrisy. You don’t care about women, you’re just using them as a proxy for your misguided agenda,

The EU exit fee is not nebulous, it’s a calculation of obligations that we have previously agreed.


Blame the chief whip, not me - they shouldn't have had it reinstated t this point in time imo.

EU exit fee? So it's not a calculation of alleged obligations then... presumably since many reference this as a divorce, Britain will be receiving it's rightful share of assets as a result?
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The Countdown begins. on 22:22 - Dec 17 with 565 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 22:15 - Dec 17 by londonlisa2001

He’s exposing the hypocrisy of people like Rees Mogg who last week voted to get rid of her.

While continuing with his utter failure to be an actual political leader who gives a toss about anything other than his own ambition.


Ooooh, trying to show Mogg as a hypocrite? That'll show the Tories!
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The Countdown begins. on 22:23 - Dec 17 with 561 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 22:17 - Dec 17 by sherpajacob

But Corbyn!

That's about the extent of the Tory position


Interesting you didn't give that reply to ECB who mentioned Corbyn before I did...
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The Countdown begins. on 22:25 - Dec 17 with 557 viewssherpajacob

The Countdown begins. on 21:54 - Dec 17 by bluey_the_blue

A phone contract is something with a fixed term cost. EU commitments are a tad more nebulous than that, I doubt anyone has gone over them with a fine toothcomb. I suspect most of the 39bn will be going to Juncker's bar bill / compensation to the women he harasses...


Nebulous is a good word. Perfectly encapsulates Mrs May's position.


https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-8039#fullre


We could decide not to pay this carefully worked out and agreed settlement, as many in UK politics are suggesting, whilst at the same time saying to Ireland and the EU over the backstop, " you just have to trust us"

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The Countdown begins. on 22:25 - Dec 17 with 553 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 21:47 - Dec 17 by londonlisa2001

This is utter nonsense.

We have contractual obligations. If we choose to leave before the end of those obligations that’s our problem. If you take out a contract for a phone for two years and after 13 months say, you don’t want that phone any longer because you’ve found a bloke who swears blind he can give you the same service with two plastic cups and a piece of string and you’re stupid enough to believe him, you have to pay an exit fee from your contractual obligation.

If we don’t settle our obligation no one is going to trust us. In the same way as you reneging on a contract for credit will see you unable to take out more credit unless you pay a substantial premium because your credit rating will have tanked and you have to do business with a dodgy loan shark.


Or a dodgy loan “haliburt”.
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The Countdown begins. on 22:27 - Dec 17 with 552 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 21:37 - Dec 17 by bluey_the_blue

We signed up for those agreements as part of the EU. Once we leave the EU, nothing to do with us anymore.

For example, part of the EU claim is for money to cover EU's pension deficit. Equally, as people want to act like this is akin to a divorce, nobody seems able to determine what Britain's share of the assets are.

I doubt anything others would say/do about us not paying would be worse than the very many Britains willing to decry Britain at every opportunity.


That last paragraph Bluey. Typical Tory rhetoric when the going gets tough. Try and understand that criticising Tory Party policy or lack of is not akin to high treason.

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The Countdown begins. on 22:27 - Dec 17 with 547 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 22:25 - Dec 17 by sherpajacob

Nebulous is a good word. Perfectly encapsulates Mrs May's position.


https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-8039#fullre


We could decide not to pay this carefully worked out and agreed settlement, as many in UK politics are suggesting, whilst at the same time saying to Ireland and the EU over the backstop, " you just have to trust us"


There are arguments for and against paying what EU claims is owed - the fact it was "negotiated" down from the vast initial figure could well support the view it's a shakedown.

"You just have to trust us" - funnily enough, you've completely inverted the situation for some bizarre reason given EU are completely unwilling to have any legal wording underpinning backstop...
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The Countdown begins. on 22:29 - Dec 17 with 544 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 22:01 - Dec 17 by exiledclaseboy

May’s plan, such as it is, is clear now. Hold the vote as late as possible to try and terrify MPs into accepting her deal for fear of being landed with the disaster of no deal. Most of her ministers know this is nonsense so are now going their own way in public. May leads a government that now exists in name only. Utterly impotent. Collective responsibility is dead.

Corbyn’s master plan is to be all useless and ineffective all the time. Today highlighted just how bereft of authority, strategy and sense both front benches are. What a f*cking mess


Corbyn is pitiful. A pusillanimous, vacuous, two-faced cûnt.
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The Countdown begins. on 22:30 - Dec 17 with 540 viewsA_Fans_Dad

The Countdown begins. on 21:47 - Dec 17 by londonlisa2001

This is utter nonsense.

We have contractual obligations. If we choose to leave before the end of those obligations that’s our problem. If you take out a contract for a phone for two years and after 13 months say, you don’t want that phone any longer because you’ve found a bloke who swears blind he can give you the same service with two plastic cups and a piece of string and you’re stupid enough to believe him, you have to pay an exit fee from your contractual obligation.

If we don’t settle our obligation no one is going to trust us. In the same way as you reneging on a contract for credit will see you unable to take out more credit unless you pay a substantial premium because your credit rating will have tanked and you have to do business with a dodgy loan shark.


OK Lisa, you state "We have contractual obligations.", can you name those contractual obligations and the amount for each to get up to £39Billion?
We invoked Article 50 2 years ago and have been paying in to the EU coffers at the same rate as before with absolutley no input into the EU functions. How can the EU that hasn't had an Annual account signed off for years be believed about what we "owe" them?
You see I do not believe anything that comes out of the so called negotiations between the UK & EU.
So we invested cash into programs in the EU that are we are now banned from using, where is our rebate?
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The Countdown begins. on 22:31 - Dec 17 with 540 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 22:27 - Dec 17 by longlostjack

That last paragraph Bluey. Typical Tory rhetoric when the going gets tough. Try and understand that criticising Tory Party policy or lack of is not akin to high treason.


Many don't criticise policy. Many take the EU side automatically due to feeling all edgy and sh1t because that's the cool thing to do - whereas if Labour were in power and did precisely the same, it would be proclaimed as great.

Also from my perspective, many show a total lack of confidence in Britain as a whole, that we'd be nothing without EU. When EU inevitably implodes given the vast tide of anti-EU sentiment, we'd have to go our own way anyway.
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The Countdown begins. on 22:34 - Dec 17 with 530 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Everyone still blaming Corbyn then 😂

Facking beauts .

By the way , you can all kiss good bye to democracy

May is the biggest Cu nt to walk through those wooden doors

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