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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK 23:28 - Nov 10 with 1035706 viewspikeypaul



And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 馃槀馃槀馃槀馃槀馃槀馃槀

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

[Post edited 29 Mar 4:37]

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The Countdown begins. on 22:42 - Dec 17 with 1078 viewssherpajacob

The Countdown begins. on 22:30 - Dec 17 by A_Fans_Dad

OK Lisa, you state "We have contractual obligations.", can you name those contractual obligations and the amount for each to get up to 拢39Billion?
We invoked Article 50 2 years ago and have been paying in to the EU coffers at the same rate as before with absolutley no input into the EU functions. How can the EU that hasn't had an Annual account signed off for years be believed about what we "owe" them?
You see I do not believe anything that comes out of the so called negotiations between the UK & EU.
So we invested cash into programs in the EU that are we are now banned from using, where is our rebate?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36276175


You guys just make it too easy

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The Countdown begins. on 22:45 - Dec 17 with 1068 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 22:34 - Dec 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

Everyone still blaming Corbyn then 馃槀

Facking beauts .

By the way , you can all kiss good bye to democracy

May is the biggest Cu nt to walk through those wooden doors


May has become absolutely obsessed with getting her deal over the line. It'll be her nemesis, as Iraq was for Blair.
[Post edited 17 Dec 2018 22:47]

Poll: Who is responsible for the Brexit fiasco?

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The Countdown begins. on 22:46 - Dec 17 with 1061 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 22:42 - Dec 17 by sherpajacob

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36276175


You guys just make it too easy


Is there a reason the BBC conveniently ignore the way Andreassen was treated by EU for whistle blowing over unreliable accounts?
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The Countdown begins. on 22:49 - Dec 17 with 1052 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 22:34 - Dec 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

Everyone still blaming Corbyn then 馃槀

Facking beauts .

By the way , you can all kiss good bye to democracy

May is the biggest Cu nt to walk through those wooden doors


Corbyn was f没cking pathetic today.

May actually laughed at the dopey tw脿t. Given a loaded gun, he shot himself in the foot. Again.

Bra. F没cking. Vo.
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The Countdown begins. on 22:50 - Dec 17 with 1052 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

The Countdown begins. on 22:45 - Dec 17 by longlostjack

May has become absolutely obsessed with getting her deal over the line. It'll be her nemesis, as Iraq was for Blair.
[Post edited 17 Dec 2018 22:47]


Indeed

But May will take us all with her .

As you鈥檝e mentioned Blair

People want another vote

I want another chillcot enquiry
[Post edited 17 Dec 2018 22:55]

Poll: DO you support the uk getting involved in Syria

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The Countdown begins. on 22:51 - Dec 17 with 1046 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 22:42 - Dec 17 by sherpajacob

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36276175


You guys just make it too easy


Brexit Means F没ckwit.
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The Countdown begins. on 22:53 - Dec 17 with 1041 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

The Countdown begins. on 22:49 - Dec 17 by WarwickHunt

Corbyn was f没cking pathetic today.

May actually laughed at the dopey tw脿t. Given a loaded gun, he shot himself in the foot. Again.

Bra. F没cking. Vo.


Nope

Your hatred for him blinds the facts

Poll: DO you support the uk getting involved in Syria

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The Countdown begins. on 22:55 - Dec 17 with 1035 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 22:50 - Dec 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

Indeed

But May will take us all with her .

As you鈥檝e mentioned Blair

People want another vote

I want another chillcot enquiry
[Post edited 17 Dec 2018 22:55]


I daresay another Chilcot enquiry would be exactly the same as the first Chilcot enquiry, Tom.
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The Countdown begins. on 22:57 - Dec 17 with 1032 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 22:53 - Dec 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

Nope

Your hatred for him blinds the facts


And what facts were they Tommy?

Why didn't he call for a no confidence vote in the government which has far more consequence than a non binding no confidence vote in PM?
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The Countdown begins. on 22:59 - Dec 17 with 1023 viewsA_Fans_Dad

The Countdown begins. on 21:47 - Dec 17 by londonlisa2001

This is utter nonsense.

We have contractual obligations. If we choose to leave before the end of those obligations that鈥檚 our problem. If you take out a contract for a phone for two years and after 13 months say, you don鈥檛 want that phone any longer because you鈥檝e found a bloke who swears blind he can give you the same service with two plastic cups and a piece of string and you鈥檙e stupid enough to believe him, you have to pay an exit fee from your contractual obligation.

If we don鈥檛 settle our obligation no one is going to trust us. In the same way as you reneging on a contract for credit will see you unable to take out more credit unless you pay a substantial premium because your credit rating will have tanked and you have to do business with a dodgy loan shark.


You also said "If we don鈥檛 settle our obligation no one is going to trust us."
Do you actually believe that, if so how come any nation in the world does business with Germany, the biggest defaulter ever of Contractual Obligations?
Or have you never heard of the UK World War 2 Reperation, which our stupid politician signed a waiver to for the tune of 拢1.2 Trillion not so long ago?
[Post edited 18 Dec 2018 15:07]
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The Countdown begins. on 23:00 - Dec 17 with 1022 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

The Countdown begins. on 22:57 - Dec 17 by bluey_the_blue

And what facts were they Tommy?

Why didn't he call for a no confidence vote in the government which has far more consequence than a non binding no confidence vote in PM?


Because they wouldn鈥檛 win it you thick twa t.

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The Countdown begins. on 23:04 - Dec 17 with 1012 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 23:00 - Dec 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

Because they wouldn鈥檛 win it you thick twa t.


And you think he'll win this one?

Even if he did magically win it, it would be ultimately meaningless.

So basically giving the appearance of doing something whilst not really doing anything of note...
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The Countdown begins. on 23:06 - Dec 17 with 1004 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 22:53 - Dec 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

Nope

Your hatred for him blinds the facts


You think that by paying lip service to his MPs by the pathetic gesture of tabling a no confidence vote that he knew would be ignored was effective leadership?

No wonder May responded with derision. He鈥檚 f没cking pitiful.
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The Countdown begins. on 23:09 - Dec 17 with 1001 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

The DUP and Jacob Rees-Mogg have both stated they will vote for confidence in May tomorrow. Corbyn has revealed their utter hypocrisy and the fact that they鈥檙e not working in the national interest. They鈥檙e interested in saving their own skins.


They won鈥檛 win a no confidence vote

They won鈥檛 win ano confidence vote

I鈥檇 say it again but it鈥檚 not really sinking in son

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The Countdown begins. on 23:15 - Dec 17 with 989 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 23:09 - Dec 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

The DUP and Jacob Rees-Mogg have both stated they will vote for confidence in May tomorrow. Corbyn has revealed their utter hypocrisy and the fact that they鈥檙e not working in the national interest. They鈥檙e interested in saving their own skins.


They won鈥檛 win a no confidence vote

They won鈥檛 win ano confidence vote

I鈥檇 say it again but it鈥檚 not really sinking in son


So how does the dopey c没nt expect to get a general election?

By the way, Tom - there isn鈥檛 going to be a confidence vote tomorrow thanks to the f没ckwit Corbyn...
[Post edited 17 Dec 2018 23:20]
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The Countdown begins. on 23:31 - Dec 17 with 971 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

The Countdown begins. on 23:15 - Dec 17 by WarwickHunt

So how does the dopey c没nt expect to get a general election?

By the way, Tom - there isn鈥檛 going to be a confidence vote tomorrow thanks to the f没ckwit Corbyn...
[Post edited 17 Dec 2018 23:20]


The deal will be voted down then a vote of no confidence will go in .

Then anything could happen

Including a GE



I don鈥檛 know if many know this but......the Labour Party , as agreed at conference , will honour the Brexit result.

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The Countdown begins. on 23:50 - Dec 17 with 954 viewsmajorraglan

The Countdown begins. on 14:24 - Dec 17 by Jango

ONE of Britain鈥檚 most respected former diplomats has exploded the Remainer myth that the UK would suffer shortages if it fails to get a deal with the EU. Sir Christopher Meyer, the former ambassador to the US, pointed out that international law 鈥渕andates鈥 the seamless movement of goods at borders.

He also expressed his exasperation with the ignorance and aggression of Remainers attacking the World Trade Deal option of relying on World Trade Organisation rules. Comparing their project fear campaign to the infamous Spanish Inquisition.

After a series of scare stories by Remainers, including insulin supplies for diabetics drying up, lorries being trapped for hours at the borders and even sandwiches being taken off the British menu because food will not be imported, Sir Christopher Tweeted out the specific international law which proves they were all fake.

He said: 鈥淲hat's this tosh about giant lorry parks after 'no-deal' Brexit? The WTO Trade Facilitation Agreement (ratified by 136, including EU, states in 2017) mandates seamless, hi-tech practices at the border.

鈥淭he World Bank reported in 2016 that 98 percent of border traffic went unchecked.鈥

The Tweet attracted a high level of abuse from Remain supporting social media trolls deployed to try to bully and intimidate Brexit supporters and drown out comments which reveal that no trade deal with the EU is the best option for Britain.

In response Sir Christopher said: 鈥淵ou know when you've got the other side on the run. They take refuge in abuse.

鈥淭rying to get people to grasp that there is merit in the WTO Brexit option is like trying to persuade the 17th century Inquisition that the Earth rotates around the Sun.鈥

A paper by Professor Patrick Minford, an adviser to Margaret Thatcher and chairman of Economists for Free Trade, showed that the option means Britain would completely decouple from EU regulations leading to a boost to the Exchequer of 拢80 billion a year as well as meaning the 拢39 billion divorce bill would not have to be paid.

Meanwhile, former Harvard fellow Michael Burrage, also from Economists for Free Trade, showed that countries which trade with the EU on WTO terms do three times better than member states.


So there鈥檚 2 highly respected former U.K. ambassadors, both with knighthoods, with 2 entirely different opinions on a no deal brexit.


The 鈥渢osh鈥 about lorry parks/contingencies being developed is called Operation Brock.
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The Countdown begins. on 00:10 - Dec 18 with 942 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 22:30 - Dec 17 by A_Fans_Dad

OK Lisa, you state "We have contractual obligations.", can you name those contractual obligations and the amount for each to get up to 拢39Billion?
We invoked Article 50 2 years ago and have been paying in to the EU coffers at the same rate as before with absolutley no input into the EU functions. How can the EU that hasn't had an Annual account signed off for years be believed about what we "owe" them?
You see I do not believe anything that comes out of the so called negotiations between the UK & EU.
So we invested cash into programs in the EU that are we are now banned from using, where is our rebate?


All in the commons briefings.

Payments are broken down as follows:

UK participation in EU annual budgets 2019 & 2020 - 拢16.3bn
鈥楻este 脿 liquider鈥 - 2021 - 2028 - 拢19.8bn
Other net liabilities - 2019 - 2064 - 拢2.6bn
Total - 拢38.7bn

The report notes:

The agreement reached on the settlement means that the UK will:
鈥 contribute to and participate in the 2019 and 2020 EU budgets, as part of the transition (or implementation) period;
鈥 continue to receive EU funding from EU programmes that are part of the EU鈥檚 2014鈥2020 budget plan;
鈥 contribute towards the EU鈥檚 outstanding budget commitments at 31 December 2020 (these are budget commitments that have been made, but not yet paid);
鈥 contribute towards some of the EU鈥檚 liabilities 鈥 obligations to pay for certain items following past activities 鈥 incurred before 31 December 2020. EU staff pensions are the main source of such liabilities;
鈥 remain liable for the EU鈥檚 contingent liabilities 鈥 potential liabilities that may occur depending on the outcome of an uncertain event 鈥 which relate mainly to financial guarantees given and to legal risks;
鈥 receive back the 鈧3.5 billion of capital it has paid into the European Investment Bank (EIB) in 12 instalments from 2019, and receive back the relatively small amount of capital it paid into the ECB on withdrawal;
鈥 remain liable for EIB liabilities approved before the WA comes into force, and will provide a guarantee to the EIB for its stock of outstanding loans which will decrease as EIB loans associated with it decrease;
鈥 continue to participate in some of EU鈥檚 overseas programmes, such as the European Development Fund, until the current round ends.

Happy to help.

And Bluey - the figures are net of our share of assets.

Edit to add - sorry, the point on trust - the UK has the right to appoint its own auditors under the agreement.
[Post edited 18 Dec 2018 0:11]
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The Countdown begins. on 00:26 - Dec 18 with 924 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 23:31 - Dec 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

The deal will be voted down then a vote of no confidence will go in .

Then anything could happen

Including a GE



I don鈥檛 know if many know this but......the Labour Party , as agreed at conference , will honour the Brexit result.


Err... not exactly, Tom -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-45631792
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The Countdown begins. on 07:23 - Dec 18 with 874 viewspikeypaul

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The Countdown begins. on 08:26 - Dec 18 with 850 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 23:04 - Dec 17 by bluey_the_blue

And you think he'll win this one?

Even if he did magically win it, it would be ultimately meaningless.

So basically giving the appearance of doing something whilst not really doing anything of note...


It鈥檚 laughable. He鈥檚 more out of his depth than Paul Merson on Only Connect.

John Crace in today鈥檚 Guardian -

Unable to resist snatching a late own goal, Corbyn used a point of order to table the meaningless censure motion he had wisely dropped earlier on. Even if it got debated, it would carry no weight and wouldn鈥檛 take place until the new year at the earliest. By which time it would have been even more pointless. But he always had been a sucker for a futile gesture.
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The Countdown begins. on 08:36 - Dec 18 with 838 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 07:23 - Dec 18 by pikeypaul

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I read these like England supporters relentless 鈥渋ts coming home鈥 during the World Cup, where they can鈥檛 believe they got this far but they and everyone else knows it won鈥檛 really happen.
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The Countdown begins. on 08:44 - Dec 18 with 825 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

The Countdown begins. on 08:26 - Dec 18 by WarwickHunt

It鈥檚 laughable. He鈥檚 more out of his depth than Paul Merson on Only Connect.

John Crace in today鈥檚 Guardian -

Unable to resist snatching a late own goal, Corbyn used a point of order to table the meaningless censure motion he had wisely dropped earlier on. Even if it got debated, it would carry no weight and wouldn鈥檛 take place until the new year at the earliest. By which time it would have been even more pointless. But he always had been a sucker for a futile gesture.


The cartoonist said

He doesn鈥檛 get it either .

There will be no vote of no confidence towards the government until the deal is voted against.

Labour won鈥檛 win a vote of no confidence while the DUP are propping up this shower of shi t

Facking hell , it鈥檚 that Facking simple

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The Countdown begins. on 09:25 - Dec 18 with 787 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 08:44 - Dec 18 by oh_tommy_tommy

The cartoonist said

He doesn鈥檛 get it either .

There will be no vote of no confidence towards the government until the deal is voted against.

Labour won鈥檛 win a vote of no confidence while the DUP are propping up this shower of shi t

Facking hell , it鈥檚 that Facking simple


Errr...of course it f没cking is - which is why he should drop the pretence there鈥檚 going to be a GE and press for a second referendum.

Except he won鈥檛 because he鈥檚 a brexiter pretending to be a remainer. The massive, two-faced c没nt.

Simple enough for you, Tom?
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The Countdown begins. on 09:34 - Dec 18 with 783 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 22:02 - Dec 17 by sherpajacob

Fair play, if someone has a knighthood and OBE they must be a thoroughly good egg and entirely trustworthy.


He鈥檚 been knighted for work done in this field of work though. He could be a paedophile or a serial killer but he鈥檇 still be better qualified to give an opinion on the matter than you or I or anyone else on this forum.
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