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The Countdown begins. 23:28 - Nov 10 with 390677 viewspikeypaul



https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20190329T23&p0=1336&msg=Democr

1:19 pm today was the exact mid point from when the result that the Great British public had decided to leave the EU and the time 11pm March 29th 2019 that Democracy will be delivered.

Happy days.
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The Countdown begins. on 12:48 - Mar 28 with 1269 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 11:25 - Mar 28 by londonlisa2001

It's like someone has stood on top of a building and chucked ten grand over the side then being excited at finding a fiver on the street when they come back down.

Australia's economy is less than half the size of ours and about a third of the size of Germany's alone, and you're excited that we may sign a deal with them?

Dear God.


Jesus the bitterness is quite incredible. You see the whole point in coming out of the EU is to be set free from their shackles and be free to do deals with the entire world. Lisa the thought of us agreeing a good trade deal with the EU and then agreeing trade deals with all other major countries around the world is killing you. Rather than accept what’s happening and look forward, you can’t accept the fact that you could very well be proved wrong. You may think that you’re far more clue’d up and intelligent than over 17 million people in this country but you’re not, nowhere near it.

And I wasn’t getting excited, I was posting brexit news on a brexit thread. The same way you remainers post anything negative regards the economy on here blaming brexit.


Dear God.
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The Countdown begins. on 12:51 - Mar 28 with 1262 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 10:36 - Mar 28 by Batterseajack

So potentially one (free??) trade arrangement in place by Jan 2021, only 49 free trade agreemments to go....



https://fullfact.org/europe/how-many-free-trade-deals-has-eu-done/


One step at a time fella. We aren’t even able to start negotiating yet.
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The Countdown begins. on 13:05 - Mar 28 with 1239 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 12:48 - Mar 28 by Jango

Jesus the bitterness is quite incredible. You see the whole point in coming out of the EU is to be set free from their shackles and be free to do deals with the entire world. Lisa the thought of us agreeing a good trade deal with the EU and then agreeing trade deals with all other major countries around the world is killing you. Rather than accept what’s happening and look forward, you can’t accept the fact that you could very well be proved wrong. You may think that you’re far more clue’d up and intelligent than over 17 million people in this country but you’re not, nowhere near it.

And I wasn’t getting excited, I was posting brexit news on a brexit thread. The same way you remainers post anything negative regards the economy on here blaming brexit.


Dear God.
[Post edited 28 Mar 12:54]


It has nothing to do with being bitter.

It's to do with not being delusional.

Free to do deals with the entire world?

We are at present.
But at present, the 'other side' is bargaining with an enormous economic bloc (including us), which gives us an incredibly powerful position. When it's just us, by definition, that power is seriously diminished.

We supposedly held all the cards in the negotiations with the EU over exit as well. We were told by arch Brexiteers that the EU would fall over themselves to deal with us due to 'German car manufacturers' or similar. How's that going? Do you think we are coming out on top with that?
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The Countdown begins. on 13:06 - Mar 28 with 1236 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 12:51 - Mar 28 by Jango

One step at a time fella. We aren’t even able to start negotiating yet.


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The Countdown begins. on 13:11 - Mar 28 with 1225 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 12:51 - Mar 28 by Jango

One step at a time fella. We aren’t even able to start negotiating yet.


Quite. Gives the Brexit Bulldog plenty of time to hone his negotiating skills.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0594nql
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The Countdown begins. on 14:19 - Mar 28 with 1182 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 13:05 - Mar 28 by londonlisa2001

It has nothing to do with being bitter.

It's to do with not being delusional.

Free to do deals with the entire world?

We are at present.
But at present, the 'other side' is bargaining with an enormous economic bloc (including us), which gives us an incredibly powerful position. When it's just us, by definition, that power is seriously diminished.

We supposedly held all the cards in the negotiations with the EU over exit as well. We were told by arch Brexiteers that the EU would fall over themselves to deal with us due to 'German car manufacturers' or similar. How's that going? Do you think we are coming out on top with that?


There you go again, Lisa is right and over 17 million people (the majority) are delusional. Bitter.

We were told we wouldn’t be able to trade deals during a transitional period. How did that go?

We were then told the EU would demand a veto of any deal made during that transitional period. How did that go?

Nobody in their right mind actually thought the EU would roll over and let us take what we wanted so stop pedantic. Only the remainders think that we’ll walk away from the EU with the worst deal possible though.

We haven’t even started the negotiations on trade yet so your last point is pretty much like every point you make, rubbish.
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The Countdown begins. on 14:38 - Mar 28 with 1162 viewsWATP

The Countdown begins. on 10:10 - Mar 28 by WarwickHunt

Australia. Handy.


Yes with a small population of around 26,000,000, Australia doesn’t need to be part of a political union to prosper.
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The Countdown begins. on 14:42 - Mar 28 with 1156 viewsWATP

The Countdown begins. on 12:51 - Mar 28 by Jango

One step at a time fella. We aren’t even able to start negotiating yet.


The only problem with Brexit is the fifth columnist negotiating the withdrawal .
Spineless, or should that be treasonous.
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The Countdown begins. on 14:46 - Mar 28 with 1153 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 14:19 - Mar 28 by Jango

There you go again, Lisa is right and over 17 million people (the majority) are delusional. Bitter.

We were told we wouldn’t be able to trade deals during a transitional period. How did that go?

We were then told the EU would demand a veto of any deal made during that transitional period. How did that go?

Nobody in their right mind actually thought the EU would roll over and let us take what we wanted so stop pedantic. Only the remainders think that we’ll walk away from the EU with the worst deal possible though.

We haven’t even started the negotiations on trade yet so your last point is pretty much like every point you make, rubbish.


Oh whatever.

It's pointless.
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The Countdown begins. on 14:53 - Mar 28 with 1149 viewsWATP

The Countdown begins. on 14:19 - Mar 28 by Jango

There you go again, Lisa is right and over 17 million people (the majority) are delusional. Bitter.

We were told we wouldn’t be able to trade deals during a transitional period. How did that go?

We were then told the EU would demand a veto of any deal made during that transitional period. How did that go?

Nobody in their right mind actually thought the EU would roll over and let us take what we wanted so stop pedantic. Only the remainders think that we’ll walk away from the EU with the worst deal possible though.

We haven’t even started the negotiations on trade yet so your last point is pretty much like every point you make, rubbish.


We have a remoaner leading the negotiations with the EU.
Absolute ridiculous . We should have walked away many months ago.

I have no doubt the Eu , Germans and French are prepared to sacrifice many, many jobs on the alter of “European union unity” just to punish the Brits, as a warning to other countries who may want to leave in the near future.

The Frankenstein project (Eu)is far more important to the fanatics from Brussels than jobs and the prosperity of its citizens.
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The Countdown begins. on 14:54 - Mar 28 with 1146 viewsWATP

The Countdown begins. on 14:46 - Mar 28 by londonlisa2001

Oh whatever.

It's pointless.


Yes it is pointless , democracy won. We are leaving 👍
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The Countdown begins. on 14:56 - Mar 28 with 1145 viewsmonmouth

The Countdown begins. on 13:06 - Mar 28 by WarwickHunt



I laughed too. Then I realised it's not funny.

It's quite depressing when the nutters that used to attack the notorious 'Door 4' at Penlan during breaks, often by heading the steel panels that replaced the glass, were in fact brighter than people now in parliament.
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The Countdown begins. on 14:58 - Mar 28 with 1143 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 14:38 - Mar 28 by WATP

Yes with a small population of around 26,000,000, Australia doesn’t need to be part of a political union to prosper.


Australia has 10 FTAs in place, with several more in the pipeline. Its also part of ASEAN.

http://dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/pages/trade-agreements.aspx

Now nobody is saying that we couldn't eventually replicate this. Its that trade deals / FTA's take always take years to negotiate. Both side's take time to decide what goods / services etc. that they want access to and offer up to their new partner. But, the issue some of us remoaners have are;

1) How will our economy cope for the period (several years) in which we exit the EU and start striking up trade deals? Even the governments on studies conclude that the economy will take a hit, and whats the price worth paying for this?
2) How strong will our negotiating really hand be with a weakening economy when striking these new deals? Remember, we need these deals to get our economy going again and the other side will know this.
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The Countdown begins. on 14:59 - Mar 28 with 1139 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 14:42 - Mar 28 by WATP

The only problem with Brexit is the fifth columnist negotiating the withdrawal .
Spineless, or should that be treasonous.


What is the fifth column? And who are they?
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The Countdown begins. on 15:00 - Mar 28 with 1138 viewsWATP

The Countdown begins. on 14:58 - Mar 28 by Batterseajack

Australia has 10 FTAs in place, with several more in the pipeline. Its also part of ASEAN.

http://dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/pages/trade-agreements.aspx

Now nobody is saying that we couldn't eventually replicate this. Its that trade deals / FTA's take always take years to negotiate. Both side's take time to decide what goods / services etc. that they want access to and offer up to their new partner. But, the issue some of us remoaners have are;

1) How will our economy cope for the period (several years) in which we exit the EU and start striking up trade deals? Even the governments on studies conclude that the economy will take a hit, and whats the price worth paying for this?
2) How strong will our negotiating really hand be with a weakening economy when striking these new deals? Remember, we need these deals to get our economy going again and the other side will know this.


Weakening economy ?
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The Countdown begins. on 15:02 - Mar 28 with 1132 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 14:53 - Mar 28 by WATP

We have a remoaner leading the negotiations with the EU.
Absolute ridiculous . We should have walked away many months ago.

I have no doubt the Eu , Germans and French are prepared to sacrifice many, many jobs on the alter of “European union unity” just to punish the Brits, as a warning to other countries who may want to leave in the near future.

The Frankenstein project (Eu)is far more important to the fanatics from Brussels than jobs and the prosperity of its citizens.


David Davis was a key vote leave figure mate.

When we were members, we had a load of opt outs. Now we're leaving hoping for a load of opt ins. Please explain how the EU denying us these opt ins is punishment?
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The Countdown begins. on 15:03 - Mar 28 with 1130 viewsWATP

The Countdown begins. on 14:59 - Mar 28 by Batterseajack

What is the fifth column? And who are they?


You’re joking , right 👍
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The Countdown begins. on 15:04 - Mar 28 with 1129 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 14:54 - Mar 28 by WATP

Yes it is pointless , democracy won. We are leaving 👍


Great. I genuinely hope that neither you nor anyone that you know will end up struggling as a result.
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The Countdown begins. on 15:05 - Mar 28 with 1127 viewsWATP

The Countdown begins. on 15:02 - Mar 28 by Batterseajack

David Davis was a key vote leave figure mate.

When we were members, we had a load of opt outs. Now we're leaving hoping for a load of opt ins. Please explain how the EU denying us these opt ins is punishment?


The prime minister.
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The Countdown begins. on 15:05 - Mar 28 with 1127 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 15:00 - Mar 28 by WATP

Weakening economy ?


From the day 1 after leaving the EU / single market we will have no trading agreements with anyone in the world, with large parts of our export economy previously geared up for single market access.

Its not going to get immediately bigger on day 2 is it mate.
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The Countdown begins. on 15:06 - Mar 28 with 1125 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 15:03 - Mar 28 by WATP

You’re joking , right 👍


No im not, what is it and who are they?
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The Countdown begins. on 15:08 - Mar 28 with 1123 viewsWATP

The Countdown begins. on 15:05 - Mar 28 by Batterseajack

From the day 1 after leaving the EU / single market we will have no trading agreements with anyone in the world, with large parts of our export economy previously geared up for single market access.

Its not going to get immediately bigger on day 2 is it mate.


Well we should be negotiating trade deals now.
Who cares what the EU think.

Do you honestly think the EU won’t sell us it goods and services the day after we leave ?
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The Countdown begins. on 15:08 - Mar 28 with 1120 viewsWATP

The Countdown begins. on 15:06 - Mar 28 by Batterseajack

No im not, what is it and who are they?


Type it into your search engine.
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The Countdown begins. on 15:09 - Mar 28 with 1119 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 15:00 - Mar 28 by WATP

Weakening economy ?


An economy growing at a slower rate than all of its peer group is a weakening economy.

Same as a wage increase of 2% with inflation at 3% is a decrease. It's not difficult.
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The Countdown begins. on 15:12 - Mar 28 with 1112 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 15:08 - Mar 28 by WATP

Well we should be negotiating trade deals now.
Who cares what the EU think.

Do you honestly think the EU won’t sell us it goods and services the day after we leave ?


Of course the EU would still sell us goods. But complex supply chains would be affected by tariffs and custom checks.

Even if we started negotiating now, they wouldn't be agreed in time for when we depart the EU and Countries wouldn't do any serious negotiating with us until they understood our future trading relationship with the EU.
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