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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK 23:28 - Nov 10 with 1035724 viewspikeypaul



And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

[Post edited 29 Mar 4:37]

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The Countdown begins. on 12:58 - Mar 5 with 1062 viewswestwalesed

The Countdown begins. on 17:03 - Mar 3 by rockinjk

So in essence itโ€™s a โ€˜feelingโ€™

Like the moment we leave you walk out and door and can shout freedom!

I think we understand it perfectly well, itโ€™s a very odd way to make important decisions. Itโ€™s the political equivalent of โ€œwinging itโ€

The argh fck it why not approach


Sorry for the slow reply.

I don't object to it being described as a "feeling" or an "instinct", the real question is whether, as you seem to be suggesting, that makes a vote cast on that basis any less relevant than a vote cast on the basis of "facts". You describe it as "odd" I would describe it as being perfectly reasonable considering the multi-variant nature of Human decision making. I also have no doubt at all that many many Millions of Leave voters literally did think "argh fck it why not" when casting their vote to Leave. Those millions of voters who felt that the current "system" (however they understood it) was broken for them and this was their way of trying to change it. Perhaps misguided, perhaps not, but again, who decides if that is any less valid?

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The Countdown begins. on 13:02 - Mar 5 with 1049 viewswestwalesed

The Countdown begins. on 13:45 - Mar 4 by Batterseajack

That "something more arbitrary" is just feelings. Trouble with feelings is that they cant be counteracted with facts.

"Itโ€™s hard to say if that will end up bringing material benefits or not in the long run."
Of course its hard to say if we'll be better off, because there is nothing to suggest that we will be, unless something miraculous happen. This is a sad indictment of our great nation that we are now resorting to hoping for a miracle to save the day.


Again, (see above) sorry for the slow reply.

You're right, feelings can't be counteracted with facts. Sometime people have an instinct that the system isn't working for them and they want to overhaul it. Sometimes things just don't feel right. I suppose you could call that a faith in a sense.

There is nothing to suggest we will be better off in the long run, no. But virtually every prediction about the negative consequences of a vote to Leave have been shown to be inaccurate as well - the most famous being the requirement for an Emergency Budget and Half a Million more unemployed.

What will be will be.

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The Countdown begins. on 13:56 - Mar 5 with 1018 viewsEbo

The Countdown begins. on 13:02 - Mar 5 by westwalesed

Again, (see above) sorry for the slow reply.

You're right, feelings can't be counteracted with facts. Sometime people have an instinct that the system isn't working for them and they want to overhaul it. Sometimes things just don't feel right. I suppose you could call that a faith in a sense.

There is nothing to suggest we will be better off in the long run, no. But virtually every prediction about the negative consequences of a vote to Leave have been shown to be inaccurate as well - the most famous being the requirement for an Emergency Budget and Half a Million more unemployed.

What will be will be.


"But virtually every prediction about the negative consequences of a vote to Leave have been shown to be inaccurate as well "

Citation needed

Thank you, goodnight and bollocks
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The Countdown begins. on 16:29 - Mar 5 with 987 viewswestwalesed

The Countdown begins. on 13:56 - Mar 5 by Ebo

"But virtually every prediction about the negative consequences of a vote to Leave have been shown to be inaccurate as well "

Citation needed


Referendum 2016: Unemployment would be up by 500,000 in the event of a vote to leave.
Today: We are at record employment levels.

Referendum 2016: Every household would be worse of by ยฃ3000.
Today: Wages are outstripping inflation for the first time in years.

Referendum 2016: There would be an "emergency budget" in the event to leave.
Since the Referendum: There has been no such budget.

Those are the big ones, and I am sure you will find counter points to make. But the fact is that the UK economy is in robust health and is growing at a faster rate that the Eurozone.

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The Countdown begins. on 18:26 - Mar 5 with 955 viewsKilkennyjack

Hey Brexidiots ..... well done you fecking half wits ....


โ€˜Beware of the risen peopleโ€™ ........๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ’š YesCymru ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ

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The Countdown begins. on 19:14 - Mar 5 with 933 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 16:29 - Mar 5 by westwalesed

Referendum 2016: Unemployment would be up by 500,000 in the event of a vote to leave.
Today: We are at record employment levels.

Referendum 2016: Every household would be worse of by ยฃ3000.
Today: Wages are outstripping inflation for the first time in years.

Referendum 2016: There would be an "emergency budget" in the event to leave.
Since the Referendum: There has been no such budget.

Those are the big ones, and I am sure you will find counter points to make. But the fact is that the UK economy is in robust health and is growing at a faster rate that the Eurozone.


I think itโ€™s only fair to point out that we havenโ€™t left yet.

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The Countdown begins. on 20:13 - Mar 5 with 912 viewsbonymine

The Countdown begins. on 16:29 - Mar 5 by westwalesed

Referendum 2016: Unemployment would be up by 500,000 in the event of a vote to leave.
Today: We are at record employment levels.

Referendum 2016: Every household would be worse of by ยฃ3000.
Today: Wages are outstripping inflation for the first time in years.

Referendum 2016: There would be an "emergency budget" in the event to leave.
Since the Referendum: There has been no such budget.

Those are the big ones, and I am sure you will find counter points to make. But the fact is that the UK economy is in robust health and is growing at a faster rate that the Eurozone.


This in a nutshell stop all the scaremongering FFS ..........

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The Countdown begins. on 20:17 - Mar 5 with 892 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 20:13 - Mar 5 by bonymine

This in a nutshell stop all the scaremongering FFS ..........


You havenโ€™t been paying attention, have you?
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The Countdown begins. on 20:28 - Mar 5 with 897 viewsbonymine

The Countdown begins. on 20:17 - Mar 5 by WarwickHunt

You havenโ€™t been paying attention, have you?


I just looked at the last page Warwick as I couldnโ€™t be arsed to read through all that sh1t it just sums up my views on this letโ€™s get out to stand on our own two feet FFS maybe a bit simplistic but we survived before the EEC/EU back in 1974 and itโ€™s the greedy bureaucrats who are screwing the system and weโ€™ll most certainly trade and flourish WHEN we go it alone ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช.....

Onward and Upwards .....๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง
[Post edited 5 Mar 20:35]

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The Countdown begins. on 20:44 - Mar 5 with 879 viewswestwalesed

The Countdown begins. on 19:14 - Mar 5 by longlostjack

I think itโ€™s only fair to point out that we havenโ€™t left yet.


These examples were stated consequences of a vote to Leave, not actually leaving.

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The Countdown begins. on 21:42 - Mar 5 with 837 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 20:28 - Mar 5 by bonymine

I just looked at the last page Warwick as I couldnโ€™t be arsed to read through all that sh1t it just sums up my views on this letโ€™s get out to stand on our own two feet FFS maybe a bit simplistic but we survived before the EEC/EU back in 1974 and itโ€™s the greedy bureaucrats who are screwing the system and weโ€™ll most certainly trade and flourish WHEN we go it alone ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช.....

Onward and Upwards .....๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง
[Post edited 5 Mar 20:35]


The world has changed since 1974...and โ€œgreedy bureaucrats...screwing the systemโ€ is a laughable reason for wanting to leave a trading block of 600 million people.
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The Countdown begins. on 22:57 - Mar 5 with 806 viewsKilkennyjack

The Countdown begins. on 20:28 - Mar 5 by bonymine

I just looked at the last page Warwick as I couldnโ€™t be arsed to read through all that sh1t it just sums up my views on this letโ€™s get out to stand on our own two feet FFS maybe a bit simplistic but we survived before the EEC/EU back in 1974 and itโ€™s the greedy bureaucrats who are screwing the system and weโ€™ll most certainly trade and flourish WHEN we go it alone ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช.....

Onward and Upwards .....๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง
[Post edited 5 Mar 20:35]


UK was โ€˜the sick man of Europeโ€™ in 1974.

Europe then transformed the UK through peace, trade, and mutual prosperity.

Nothing else good about 1974 except the Dutch football team.
It was a shite time.
Even Swans were shite and had to apply for re-election after finiishing in 89th position.

If we leave with no deal then we cant trade with anybody without new deals. All of which are worse than today.

Luckily our kids will vote us straight back in ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ

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The Countdown begins. on 07:59 - Mar 6 with 734 viewsKilkennyjack



Smash this Tory Brexit now.

โ€˜Beware of the risen peopleโ€™ ........๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ’š YesCymru ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ

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The Countdown begins. on 10:26 - Mar 6 with 693 viewsHighjack

The Countdown begins. on 22:57 - Mar 5 by Kilkennyjack

UK was โ€˜the sick man of Europeโ€™ in 1974.

Europe then transformed the UK through peace, trade, and mutual prosperity.

Nothing else good about 1974 except the Dutch football team.
It was a shite time.
Even Swans were shite and had to apply for re-election after finiishing in 89th position.

If we leave with no deal then we cant trade with anybody without new deals. All of which are worse than today.

Luckily our kids will vote us straight back in ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ


The sick man of Europe tag has been chucked at loads of countries in the last century, many of whom are in the European Union.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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The Countdown begins. on 11:42 - Mar 6 with 675 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 19:14 - Mar 5 by longlostjack

I think itโ€™s only fair to point out that we havenโ€™t left yet.


I think it's fair to point out that those points were a load of bollox as well.

The only surprise so far has been that employment has held up in the top line figures. And it's good employment too - most of the growth has been in full time jobs.

A big hit on the economy was forecasted (current estimates suggest it's cost us more per week so far than the magical Brexit bus claim). We were told emergency budgetary measures would have to be taken, and ยฃ50bn of QE was needed. The economic claims before the referendum were over-played (focus was on the worst case scenario in all of the reports, rather than a more balanced reported including elements of uncertainty). But ultimately they were correct in that economically there's been a big hit already. A hit on GDP, on inward investment and on people's pockets.

We've consistently underperformed compared to other developed countries since the summer of 2016 from being in a position of strength. Only now as of back end of 2018 are we seeing European growth as a whole slowing, for a whole bunch of reasons one of which being the uncertainty around Brexit itself.

And then you've had all the social upheaval. Division, worry about futures with announcements that companies are moving or not going ahead with planned investments. People who've lived here for decades and brought up children now having to apply for settled status, etc.

It's an ridiculous case of utter self harm.
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The Countdown begins. on 12:28 - Mar 6 with 648 viewspikeypaul



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The Countdown begins. on 12:46 - Mar 6 with 633 viewsBatterseajack

The silly tw@t had his French residency application turned down.



https://www.standard.co.uk/news/londoners-diary/the-londoner-brexiteer-nigel-law
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The Countdown begins. on 13:37 - Mar 6 with 607 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 07:59 - Mar 6 by Kilkennyjack



Smash this Tory Brexit now.


Yup, it's all down to Brexit.

Nothing to do with EU dropping tariffs on Japanese manufactured cars whatsoever.
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The Countdown begins. on 13:58 - Mar 6 with 584 viewsEbo

The Countdown begins. on 16:29 - Mar 5 by westwalesed

Referendum 2016: Unemployment would be up by 500,000 in the event of a vote to leave.
Today: We are at record employment levels.

Referendum 2016: Every household would be worse of by ยฃ3000.
Today: Wages are outstripping inflation for the first time in years.

Referendum 2016: There would be an "emergency budget" in the event to leave.
Since the Referendum: There has been no such budget.

Those are the big ones, and I am sure you will find counter points to make. But the fact is that the UK economy is in robust health and is growing at a faster rate that the Eurozone.


"Today: We are at record employment levels. "

Due to a vast number of people on zero hour contracts. They could not be called in for weeks yet still registered as employed.

"Wages are outstripping inflation for the first time in years"

Still waiting for to see 100% proof of this, certainly not in the most deprived areas of the UK

Thank you, goodnight and bollocks
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The Countdown begins. on 13:59 - Mar 6 with 580 viewsrockinjk

The Countdown begins. on 13:58 - Mar 6 by Ebo

"Today: We are at record employment levels. "

Due to a vast number of people on zero hour contracts. They could not be called in for weeks yet still registered as employed.

"Wages are outstripping inflation for the first time in years"

Still waiting for to see 100% proof of this, certainly not in the most deprived areas of the UK


This is where I have to step in, the vast majority of jobs are F/T

The jobs figures are fantastic, there are issues within this but overall the job market has held up very well.

That's partly why I find it so weird that sum want to rip this up.
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The Countdown begins. on 14:02 - Mar 6 with 576 viewsrockinjk

The Countdown begins. on 13:37 - Mar 6 by bluey_the_blue

Yup, it's all down to Brexit.

Nothing to do with EU dropping tariffs on Japanese manufactured cars whatsoever.


Credit to tweeter:

Isn't it amazing just how UNLUCKY the UK has become since 23rd June 2016:

Ford
Honda
Jaguar
Airbus
HSBC
Panasonic
Toshiba
Hitachi
P&O
Sony
Lloyds
Barclays
AXA
UBS
EBA
Unilever
Dyson
JP Morgan
MoneyGram

Obviously NOTHING AT ALL to do with #Brexit!

Just how UNLUCKY can you get?!

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When will you guys ever take some RESPONSIBILITY for your actions. Those of us who believe in market forces are usually the first to talk about RESPONSIBILITY

But when it comes to brexit, you're all a bunch of pussies blaming everything but your OWN decision
[Post edited 6 Mar 14:03]
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The Countdown begins. on 14:08 - Mar 6 with 564 viewsrockinjk

The Countdown begins. on 12:58 - Mar 5 by westwalesed

Sorry for the slow reply.

I don't object to it being described as a "feeling" or an "instinct", the real question is whether, as you seem to be suggesting, that makes a vote cast on that basis any less relevant than a vote cast on the basis of "facts". You describe it as "odd" I would describe it as being perfectly reasonable considering the multi-variant nature of Human decision making. I also have no doubt at all that many many Millions of Leave voters literally did think "argh fck it why not" when casting their vote to Leave. Those millions of voters who felt that the current "system" (however they understood it) was broken for them and this was their way of trying to change it. Perhaps misguided, perhaps not, but again, who decides if that is any less valid?


Very interesting and thank you for your reply.

I worry about this Country when the penny drops for these people
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The Countdown begins. on 14:10 - Mar 6 with 561 viewsEbo

The Countdown begins. on 14:02 - Mar 6 by rockinjk

Credit to tweeter:

Isn't it amazing just how UNLUCKY the UK has become since 23rd June 2016:

Ford
Honda
Jaguar
Airbus
HSBC
Panasonic
Toshiba
Hitachi
P&O
Sony
Lloyds
Barclays
AXA
UBS
EBA
Unilever
Dyson
JP Morgan
MoneyGram

Obviously NOTHING AT ALL to do with #Brexit!

Just how UNLUCKY can you get?!

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When will you guys ever take some RESPONSIBILITY for your actions. Those of us who believe in market forces are usually the first to talk about RESPONSIBILITY

But when it comes to brexit, you're all a bunch of pussies blaming everything but your OWN decision
[Post edited 6 Mar 14:03]



Thank you, goodnight and bollocks
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The Countdown begins. on 14:12 - Mar 6 with 555 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 13:37 - Mar 6 by bluey_the_blue

Yup, it's all down to Brexit.

Nothing to do with EU dropping tariffs on Japanese manufactured cars whatsoever.


Japan FTA is a reason for relocated in Japan instead of the EU, that and the need to relocate fairly quickly. They have more factories in Japan which could help them with capacity during this change.

But lets not kid ourselves that the UK being without a trade deal in under a month with both the EU and Japan is what triggered this move.
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The Countdown begins. on 14:25 - Mar 6 with 547 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 14:02 - Mar 6 by rockinjk

Credit to tweeter:

Isn't it amazing just how UNLUCKY the UK has become since 23rd June 2016:

Ford
Honda
Jaguar
Airbus
HSBC
Panasonic
Toshiba
Hitachi
P&O
Sony
Lloyds
Barclays
AXA
UBS
EBA
Unilever
Dyson
JP Morgan
MoneyGram

Obviously NOTHING AT ALL to do with #Brexit!

Just how UNLUCKY can you get?!

----------------------------------

When will you guys ever take some RESPONSIBILITY for your actions. Those of us who believe in market forces are usually the first to talk about RESPONSIBILITY

But when it comes to brexit, you're all a bunch of pussies blaming everything but your OWN decision
[Post edited 6 Mar 14:03]


WIll Brexit lead to some leaving? Sure.

Problem you have is willfully ignoring the fact other reasons also exist.

Niche diesel SUV planned for Britain now not being made, leading to no job losses? Blame Brexit and not the fact that diesel sales have plummeted.

Toyota producing new Corolla here? Despite Brexit clearly.

Dyson moved office staff effectively to Singapore - makes sense given most of their sales in Asia. R&D et al funnily enough remain in Britain.

As for others, especially financial well any dealing with EU will obviously create a new base within EU and relocate, doesn't mean they've pulled out of UK.
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