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And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

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The Countdown begins. on 14:31 - Mar 6 with 906 viewsrockinjk

The Countdown begins. on 14:25 - Mar 6 by bluey_the_blue

WIll Brexit lead to some leaving? Sure.

Problem you have is willfully ignoring the fact other reasons also exist.

Niche diesel SUV planned for Britain now not being made, leading to no job losses? Blame Brexit and not the fact that diesel sales have plummeted.

Toyota producing new Corolla here? Despite Brexit clearly.

Dyson moved office staff effectively to Singapore - makes sense given most of their sales in Asia. R&D et al funnily enough remain in Britain.

As for others, especially financial well any dealing with EU will obviously create a new base within EU and relocate, doesn't mean they've pulled out of UK.


The point is, as has been pointed out time and time again:

(1) It doesn't solely have to do with Brexit

(2) Trade offs are not being sold to the Public - all we get is "project fear" and "remoaners" - if you want blue passports there are Trade offs to get them

(3) Opportunity costs are hard to measure and are endemic at moment with the uncertainty

(4) Brexit is a massive factor, it just is to deny reality is to return to my initial point.

Brexit was sold having no downsides, the German car Industry would save us etc etc

You really do need to start owning this right or wrong
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The Countdown begins. on 16:10 - Mar 6 with 868 viewsjohnlangy

The Countdown begins. on 13:58 - Mar 6 by Ebo

"Today: We are at record employment levels. "

Due to a vast number of people on zero hour contracts. They could not be called in for weeks yet still registered as employed.

"Wages are outstripping inflation for the first time in years"

Still waiting for to see 100% proof of this, certainly not in the most deprived areas of the UK


The first point not actually correct.

They do have to be guaranteed 1 hour a week. So it's not that bad really
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The Countdown begins. on 16:20 - Mar 6 with 858 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 14:25 - Mar 6 by bluey_the_blue

WIll Brexit lead to some leaving? Sure.

Problem you have is willfully ignoring the fact other reasons also exist.

Niche diesel SUV planned for Britain now not being made, leading to no job losses? Blame Brexit and not the fact that diesel sales have plummeted.

Toyota producing new Corolla here? Despite Brexit clearly.

Dyson moved office staff effectively to Singapore - makes sense given most of their sales in Asia. R&D et al funnily enough remain in Britain.

As for others, especially financial well any dealing with EU will obviously create a new base within EU and relocate, doesn't mean they've pulled out of UK.


Dyson didn’t ‘move office staff’ they moved their HQ and tax base. There’s quite a difference,
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The Countdown begins. on 17:24 - Mar 6 with 825 viewsKilkennyjack

The Countdown begins. on 16:20 - Mar 6 by londonlisa2001

Dyson didn’t ‘move office staff’ they moved their HQ and tax base. There’s quite a difference,


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Leavers do need to own this shower of Brexit shite.

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The Countdown begins. on 17:36 - Mar 6 with 812 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 16:20 - Mar 6 by londonlisa2001

Dyson didn’t ‘move office staff’ they moved their HQ and tax base. There’s quite a difference,


True, but that's not exactly down to Brexit is it?
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The Countdown begins. on 17:37 - Mar 6 with 810 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 17:24 - Mar 6 by Kilkennyjack

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Leavers do need to own this shower of Brexit shite.


I can see you're worried about leaving with no deal given Ireland will be hit pretty badly. Shame.
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The Countdown begins. on 17:44 - Mar 6 with 801 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 17:36 - Mar 6 by bluey_the_blue

True, but that's not exactly down to Brexit is it?


It was certainly a large part of the decision, yes. As it was the only way they could ensure they could continue to trade tariff free with the EU. Corporation tax rates are not dissimilar, certainly not enough of a difference to warrant the move (which is a significant hassle by the way). The tariffs are the crucial part.
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The Countdown begins. on 17:45 - Mar 6 with 799 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 17:37 - Mar 6 by bluey_the_blue

I can see you're worried about leaving with no deal given Ireland will be hit pretty badly. Shame.


Not as badly as us.

Nowhere near as badly as it happens.
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The Countdown begins. on 17:47 - Mar 6 with 796 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 17:44 - Mar 6 by londonlisa2001

It was certainly a large part of the decision, yes. As it was the only way they could ensure they could continue to trade tariff free with the EU. Corporation tax rates are not dissimilar, certainly not enough of a difference to warrant the move (which is a significant hassle by the way). The tariffs are the crucial part.


Most of Dyson's sales are to Asia, are they not? Makes sense on that level to move HQ.
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The Countdown begins. on 17:51 - Mar 6 with 794 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 17:45 - Mar 6 by londonlisa2001

Not as badly as us.

Nowhere near as badly as it happens.


In the last couple of days we've had BoE saying UK have mitigated banking risks where EU sill have major issues. We've also had the German IFO Institut predicting in the event of a "hard but smart" Brexit, we'd be hit but EU as a whole would be hit worse - Ireland in particular suffering badly.

If the aim is to get the best deal for Britain when leaving, taking "no deal" off the table is plain dumb.
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The Countdown begins. on 18:08 - Mar 6 with 782 viewsPegojack

The Countdown begins. on 17:51 - Mar 6 by bluey_the_blue

In the last couple of days we've had BoE saying UK have mitigated banking risks where EU sill have major issues. We've also had the German IFO Institut predicting in the event of a "hard but smart" Brexit, we'd be hit but EU as a whole would be hit worse - Ireland in particular suffering badly.

If the aim is to get the best deal for Britain when leaving, taking "no deal" off the table is plain dumb.


It's quite funny to listen to Brexiteers saying its all going to be OK, even as the UK car industry disappears up its own arsehole, and the aerospace industry threatens to follow.
Don't worry, though, Liam Fox is on the case.
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The Countdown begins. on 18:12 - Mar 6 with 772 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 18:08 - Mar 6 by Pegojack

It's quite funny to listen to Brexiteers saying its all going to be OK, even as the UK car industry disappears up its own arsehole, and the aerospace industry threatens to follow.
Don't worry, though, Liam Fox is on the case.


1) Car industry must be down to Brexit. Nothing to do with EU/Japan recent FTA now cutting tariffs on Japanese manufactured cars.
2) Diesel sales have rightly plummeted. Pretty obvious they aren't going to make cars any more that don't sell.
3) Airbus threatened to quit UK if we didn't join the Euro. EU funded entity issuing threats shocker.
4) There will obviously be short term impact, The key is the longer term
5) Germany seems to be having a technical recession. Yup, the EU economic powerhouse is struggling. Is that due to Brexit?
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The Countdown begins. on 18:19 - Mar 6 with 763 viewsHighjack

The Countdown begins. on 18:12 - Mar 6 by bluey_the_blue

1) Car industry must be down to Brexit. Nothing to do with EU/Japan recent FTA now cutting tariffs on Japanese manufactured cars.
2) Diesel sales have rightly plummeted. Pretty obvious they aren't going to make cars any more that don't sell.
3) Airbus threatened to quit UK if we didn't join the Euro. EU funded entity issuing threats shocker.
4) There will obviously be short term impact, The key is the longer term
5) Germany seems to be having a technical recession. Yup, the EU economic powerhouse is struggling. Is that due to Brexit?


I stubbed my toe the other day because of brexit.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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The Countdown begins. on 19:05 - Mar 6 with 740 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 18:12 - Mar 6 by bluey_the_blue

1) Car industry must be down to Brexit. Nothing to do with EU/Japan recent FTA now cutting tariffs on Japanese manufactured cars.
2) Diesel sales have rightly plummeted. Pretty obvious they aren't going to make cars any more that don't sell.
3) Airbus threatened to quit UK if we didn't join the Euro. EU funded entity issuing threats shocker.
4) There will obviously be short term impact, The key is the longer term
5) Germany seems to be having a technical recession. Yup, the EU economic powerhouse is struggling. Is that due to Brexit?


You seem to be implying that Airbus are merely scaremongering. You are wrong.

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The Countdown begins. on 19:07 - Mar 6 with 734 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 17:47 - Mar 6 by bluey_the_blue

Most of Dyson's sales are to Asia, are they not? Makes sense on that level to move HQ.


No, it doesn’t.

Companies have headquarters all over the world - it makes zero difference to the way they work operationally.
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The Countdown begins. on 19:11 - Mar 6 with 730 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 18:12 - Mar 6 by bluey_the_blue

1) Car industry must be down to Brexit. Nothing to do with EU/Japan recent FTA now cutting tariffs on Japanese manufactured cars.
2) Diesel sales have rightly plummeted. Pretty obvious they aren't going to make cars any more that don't sell.
3) Airbus threatened to quit UK if we didn't join the Euro. EU funded entity issuing threats shocker.
4) There will obviously be short term impact, The key is the longer term
5) Germany seems to be having a technical recession. Yup, the EU economic powerhouse is struggling. Is that due to Brexit?


If what you say is correct, you’ll be able to point to the car industry closing down operations all over the rest of Europe to the same extent as they are shutting down here.

The industry is replacing diesel car manufacture with electric and hybrid car manufacture. The new electric mini was supposed to be made here. If we leave with no deal it won’t be. It’s as simple as that.

Wake up.
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The Countdown begins. on 19:40 - Mar 6 with 710 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 19:11 - Mar 6 by londonlisa2001

If what you say is correct, you’ll be able to point to the car industry closing down operations all over the rest of Europe to the same extent as they are shutting down here.

The industry is replacing diesel car manufacture with electric and hybrid car manufacture. The new electric mini was supposed to be made here. If we leave with no deal it won’t be. It’s as simple as that.

Wake up.


How many Japanese company manufacturing plants are across Europe?

What's the split between petrol and diesel car production?

If diesels aren't selling in Europe in significant values, zero benefit to a Japanese company to manufacture here.

The mini hybrid is one example. Different companies make different decisions.

Why is the "loss" of that mini newsworthy when Toyota manufacturing the new Corolla in the UK isn't?

I don't doubt there will be some job losses due to Brexit initially. Longer term, I think we'll be in a better position given the EU is failing. Germany is having economic trouble, they go down the entire EU is f*cked.
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The Countdown begins. on 20:25 - Mar 6 with 679 viewsKilkennyjack

The Countdown begins. on 17:37 - Mar 6 by bluey_the_blue

I can see you're worried about leaving with no deal given Ireland will be hit pretty badly. Shame.


So .....basically you think unnecessary economic hardship in UK is fine, as long as the unnecessary economic hardship in Ireland is worse’. You do understand this impacts real hard working people and real hard working families don’t you...?

Its all completely pointless.

No doubt the EU27 will look after Ireland.
I am pretty confident that the UK will not look after Wales, Scotland, and the north of Ireland.

You are completely and utterly wrong, and you are ignoring the mountain of evidence that confirms that as fact. Brexit sucks.

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The Countdown begins. on 20:34 - Mar 6 with 669 viewsbluey_the_blue

Short term vs long term.

Varadkar has been willing to act up, playing good doggy for EU. Of course the EU27 will look after Ireland ( chortle ).

In case it's escaped your notice, jobs have been created. As BBC would say "despite Brexit".
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The Countdown begins. on 20:43 - Mar 6 with 658 viewsexiledclaseboy

I’ve missed Comical Bluey and his “everything is fine Brexit is awesome” schtick.

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The Countdown begins. on 20:52 - Mar 6 with 645 viewsbluey_the_blue

Don't think everything is great, Brexit awesome.

It is what it is. Jobs created are laughably "despite Brexit", any job loss is down to Brexit, a gross oversimplification.

The negotiations led by Robbins have been poor, desiring a half-hearted piss poor deal over playing hardball. Things are what they are, certain sectors are well prepared for Brexit others not so.

Tech sector is certainly well prepared.
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The Countdown begins. on 20:57 - Mar 6 with 638 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Countdown begins. on 20:52 - Mar 6 by bluey_the_blue

Don't think everything is great, Brexit awesome.

It is what it is. Jobs created are laughably "despite Brexit", any job loss is down to Brexit, a gross oversimplification.

The negotiations led by Robbins have been poor, desiring a half-hearted piss poor deal over playing hardball. Things are what they are, certain sectors are well prepared for Brexit others not so.

Tech sector is certainly well prepared.


Pointless blaming Robbins. Officials have been hamstrung by May’s dumbass “red lines” which were designed to appease the swivel eyed loons.

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The Countdown begins. on 21:04 - Mar 6 with 632 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 20:57 - Mar 6 by exiledclaseboy

Pointless blaming Robbins. Officials have been hamstrung by May’s dumbass “red lines” which were designed to appease the swivel eyed loons.


Don't agree with all the red lines.

With regards to immigration I'm in favour of an Australian style points system; skilled immigration in areas of need. IT has had visas abused ( admittedly from outside EU ) for decades.

With regards to Europe, I was in favour of a trading block but not everything else; silly to even attempt to homogenise so many disparate cultures and economies, Euro being one of EU's greatest failings.

Leaving, can't bind ourselves to EU otherwise what's the point? We need to be able to conduct our own trade negotiations.

Northern Ireland can't be isolated from UK.
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The Countdown begins. on 21:30 - Mar 6 with 612 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 20:43 - Mar 6 by exiledclaseboy

I’ve missed Comical Bluey and his “everything is fine Brexit is awesome” schtick.


He’s the brains of the outfit.
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The Countdown begins. on 22:02 - Mar 6 with 593 viewsunion_jack

Excellent article from The Grauniad.

Anyone know when this amendment is due to be voted on?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/06/brexit-kyle-wilson-amendme

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