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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK 23:28 - Nov 10 with 953794 viewspikeypaul



And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

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The Countdown begins on 15:56 - Mar 30 with 920 viewsGreatBritton

The Countdown begins on 02:36 - Mar 30 by DJack

Your ennui must be so burdensome. How do you cope?


I don't really. But words like 'ennui' raise the spirits, because I refuse to use words like 'depression'. To stave off the worst effects of world weariness I occasionally spar with the great minds of Planet Swans. It's harmless fun and I know I'm sparring with people who are essentuially good, because they are Swans supporters.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:00 - Mar 30 with 899 viewsFlashberryjack

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:16 - Mar 30 with 857 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:43 - Mar 30 by londonlisa2001

He will if he does that.

And it’s going to split the party. Leaving the spectacularly dim Mark Francois as the embodiment of the new Tories.


The Tory party is now experiencing the same entryism and extremist lurch that Labour did when Corbyn took over. It’ll take years to shift as it will with Labour.

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The Countdown begins on 16:21 - Mar 30 with 843 viewsGreatBritton

The Countdown begins on 16:33 - Mar 29 by Wingstandwood

And the fact you have an avatar showing an individual matching the exact description of Howard Devoto adds even further intrigue to the mix!


Devoto is a new name to me. My avatar does not reflect my political leanings, by the way, merely my love of exact words for precise feelings. Would I have liked the Buzzcocks?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:23 - Mar 30 with 836 viewsrockinjk

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:43 - Mar 30 by londonlisa2001

He will if he does that.

And it’s going to split the party. Leaving the spectacularly dim Mark Francois as the embodiment of the new Tories.


The problem is as ECB has said previously first past the post

Francois is basically a Economist Nationalist, socially conservative a fag paper away from the Far right and his type make up a significant minority of the Tory party

They were swallowed up inside the Tory party which is meant to be a moderating force that is pro market, incremental change, sceptical of grand projects etc

In essence two parties, possibly 3 within the one overall umbrella. Brexit is the gateway drug to shift the Tory party to the right (which it has) the real agenda has little to do with the EU and never has been.

The same issue is infecting the Labour Party, the problem for Labour however is the Corbyn project is even more of a minority. Corbyn is not ‘old labour’ he is more aligned with the SWP it’s simply unsustainable and there does need to be a reckoning

Maybe Brexit is a catalyst for change and that might be necessary but we have a choice. Do we want to have positive change that could elevate our Country or do we want to go down a dark path towards divisive extremes that represent a loud minority

It’s time to make a call
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The Countdown begins on 16:26 - Mar 30 with 819 viewsmonmouth

The Countdown begins on 16:21 - Mar 30 by GreatBritton

Devoto is a new name to me. My avatar does not reflect my political leanings, by the way, merely my love of exact words for precise feelings. Would I have liked the Buzzcocks?


It all hinges on whether you’ve ever fallen in love with someone you shouldn’t have fallen in love with.

Poll: TRUST MEMBERS: What DID you vote in the, um, vote

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:28 - Mar 30 with 808 viewsmonmouth

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:23 - Mar 30 by rockinjk

The problem is as ECB has said previously first past the post

Francois is basically a Economist Nationalist, socially conservative a fag paper away from the Far right and his type make up a significant minority of the Tory party

They were swallowed up inside the Tory party which is meant to be a moderating force that is pro market, incremental change, sceptical of grand projects etc

In essence two parties, possibly 3 within the one overall umbrella. Brexit is the gateway drug to shift the Tory party to the right (which it has) the real agenda has little to do with the EU and never has been.

The same issue is infecting the Labour Party, the problem for Labour however is the Corbyn project is even more of a minority. Corbyn is not ‘old labour’ he is more aligned with the SWP it’s simply unsustainable and there does need to be a reckoning

Maybe Brexit is a catalyst for change and that might be necessary but we have a choice. Do we want to have positive change that could elevate our Country or do we want to go down a dark path towards divisive extremes that represent a loud minority

It’s time to make a call


I think the call has been made mate. Maybe not in politics yet, but in intolerance and public attitudes. We are now a ‘nasty’ country incubated by Cameron, exacerbated by the ridiculous May.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:30 - Mar 30 with 804 viewsGlyn1

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 10:46 - Mar 30 by rockinjk

Yeah I’m sure really sure the EU would agree to that...

We’ve blown it, we had a great deal. We’ve shown ourselves up, they know we’ll come crawling back and they will negotiate everything away

It’s a modern day Suez


It's so so much much worse than The Suez Crisis - within a couple of years the country was back to normal and was prosperous.

I'm still waiting for the benefits of Brexit to reveal themselves.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:42 - Mar 30 with 780 viewsLohengrin

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:23 - Mar 30 by rockinjk

The problem is as ECB has said previously first past the post

Francois is basically a Economist Nationalist, socially conservative a fag paper away from the Far right and his type make up a significant minority of the Tory party

They were swallowed up inside the Tory party which is meant to be a moderating force that is pro market, incremental change, sceptical of grand projects etc

In essence two parties, possibly 3 within the one overall umbrella. Brexit is the gateway drug to shift the Tory party to the right (which it has) the real agenda has little to do with the EU and never has been.

The same issue is infecting the Labour Party, the problem for Labour however is the Corbyn project is even more of a minority. Corbyn is not ‘old labour’ he is more aligned with the SWP it’s simply unsustainable and there does need to be a reckoning

Maybe Brexit is a catalyst for change and that might be necessary but we have a choice. Do we want to have positive change that could elevate our Country or do we want to go down a dark path towards divisive extremes that represent a loud minority

It’s time to make a call


”Francois is basically a Economist Nationalist, socially conservative a fag paper away from the Far right and his type make up a significant minority of the Tory party.”

Fair to say you’ve just given a reasonably accurate description of Labour voters in Glamorgan there too. Not necessarily the card-carriers but those who turn out and tick the box every so often.

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:46 - Mar 30 with 770 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:30 - Mar 30 by Glyn1

It's so so much much worse than The Suez Crisis - within a couple of years the country was back to normal and was prosperous.

I'm still waiting for the benefits of Brexit to reveal themselves.


How can the benefits reveal themself when it hasn’t happened yet?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:49 - Mar 30 with 755 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:42 - Mar 30 by Lohengrin

”Francois is basically a Economist Nationalist, socially conservative a fag paper away from the Far right and his type make up a significant minority of the Tory party.”

Fair to say you’ve just given a reasonably accurate description of Labour voters in Glamorgan there too. Not necessarily the card-carriers but those who turn out and tick the box every so often.


I love your generalisations. Some of which may have been relevant 75 years ago.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:54 - Mar 30 with 743 viewsLohengrin

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:49 - Mar 30 by exiledclaseboy

I love your generalisations. Some of which may have been relevant 75 years ago.


Not a generalisation but an informed observation. I work in what you could fairly describe as one of the true, traditional bastions of Labour support and I exchange and listen to opinions day-in-day-out.

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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The Countdown begins on 16:59 - Mar 30 with 729 viewsGreatBritton

The Countdown begins on 16:26 - Mar 30 by monmouth

It all hinges on whether you’ve ever fallen in love with someone you shouldn’t have fallen in love with.


Ah, now it's beginning to make sense!
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The Countdown begins on 17:00 - Mar 30 with 723 viewsLohengrin

The Countdown begins on 16:26 - Mar 30 by monmouth

It all hinges on whether you’ve ever fallen in love with someone you shouldn’t have fallen in love with.


Who hasn’t?

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:01 - Mar 30 with 723 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:54 - Mar 30 by Lohengrin

Not a generalisation but an informed observation. I work in what you could fairly describe as one of the true, traditional bastions of Labour support and I exchange and listen to opinions day-in-day-out.


And as I keep telling you, anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all. Your experiences and conversations are only representative of your experiences and conversations.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:15 - Mar 30 with 691 viewsLohengrin

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:01 - Mar 30 by exiledclaseboy

And as I keep telling you, anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all. Your experiences and conversations are only representative of your experiences and conversations.


A little experiment for you: walk into the bar of any Workingmens’ Club or Legion Hall in a fifty mile radius and ask them ‘boys, a British jobs first economic policy. Would you support that?’

Do you think they’d be queuing up to say “now, now, son. The global Market is the new God and we must all worship at its altar, even if that means we can’t help our grandkids get their first car or afford to go on the bowls trip any more?”
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An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:19 - Mar 30 with 687 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:15 - Mar 30 by Lohengrin

A little experiment for you: walk into the bar of any Workingmens’ Club or Legion Hall in a fifty mile radius and ask them ‘boys, a British jobs first economic policy. Would you support that?’

Do you think they’d be queuing up to say “now, now, son. The global Market is the new God and we must all worship at its altar, even if that means we can’t help our grandkids get their first car or afford to go on the bowls trip any more?”
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In my not inconsiderable experience of such places I’d wager most of them would look at you as if you were some kind of mentalist and carry on with enjoying their evening unemcumbered by your wittering.

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The Countdown begins on 17:43 - Mar 30 with 666 viewsGowerjack

The Countdown begins on 17:00 - Mar 30 by Lohengrin

Who hasn’t?


I somehow doubt you have.

At least not in the sense that the song portrays..

Plastic since 1974
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:49 - Mar 30 with 650 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:15 - Mar 30 by Lohengrin

A little experiment for you: walk into the bar of any Workingmens’ Club or Legion Hall in a fifty mile radius and ask them ‘boys, a British jobs first economic policy. Would you support that?’

Do you think they’d be queuing up to say “now, now, son. The global Market is the new God and we must all worship at its altar, even if that means we can’t help our grandkids get their first car or afford to go on the bowls trip any more?”
[Post edited 31 Mar 6:36]


They’d probably tell you to shut up as they’re listening to a bloke singing ‘Please Release Me Let Me Go’ in a manner only vaguely reminiscent of the original...

(As an aside - I chose that one as I once spent a memorable evening in the Briton Ferry workies where it was sung at least 5 times in the space of a few hours).
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:00 - Mar 30 with 620 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:49 - Mar 30 by londonlisa2001

They’d probably tell you to shut up as they’re listening to a bloke singing ‘Please Release Me Let Me Go’ in a manner only vaguely reminiscent of the original...

(As an aside - I chose that one as I once spent a memorable evening in the Briton Ferry workies where it was sung at least 5 times in the space of a few hours).


I assume citing 'Please Release Me Let M Go' in a Brexit thread was deliberate irony?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:20 - Mar 30 with 595 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:00 - Mar 30 by bluey_the_blue

I assume citing 'Please Release Me Let M Go' in a Brexit thread was deliberate irony?


Lol. Nope.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:34 - Mar 30 with 533 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:15 - Mar 30 by Lohengrin

A little experiment for you: walk into the bar of any Workingmens’ Club or Legion Hall in a fifty mile radius and ask them ‘boys, a British jobs first economic policy. Would you support that?’

Do you think they’d be queuing up to say “now, now, son. The global Market is the new God and we must all worship at its altar, even if that means we can’t help our grandkids get their first car or afford to go on the bowls trip any more?”
[Post edited 31 Mar 6:36]


Indeed Loh the leave vote will vote with vigour

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:37 - Mar 30 with 529 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:34 - Mar 30 by oh_tommy_tommy

Indeed Loh the leave vote will vote with vigour


It’s funny, but not surprising, how much common ground you and Lohengrin would find with each other.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:40 - Mar 30 with 523 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:37 - Mar 30 by exiledclaseboy

It’s funny, but not surprising, how much common ground you and Lohengrin would find with each other.


Fack me


You’ve become a parody of yourself in one post

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:45 - Mar 30 with 516 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:40 - Mar 30 by oh_tommy_tommy

Fack me


You’ve become a parody of yourself in one post


I’d urge you to sit down with Lohengrin if you get a chance. I guarantee you’d agree on more than you disagree on.

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