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The Countdown begins. 23:28 - Nov 10 with 94579 viewspikeypaul

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20190329T23&p0=1336&msg=Democr

1:19 pm today was the exact mid point from when the result that the Great British public had decided to leave the EU and the time 11pm March 29th 2019 that Democracy will be delivered.

Happy days.
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The Countdown begins. on 19:11 - Apr 23 with 1266 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 18:52 - Apr 23 by Jango

Mexico and Britain have begun informal talks on an agreement to maintain Britain's preferential trade deal with Mexico after Brexit, British international trade secretary Liam Fox said on Thursday.

Fox also told reporters on a visit to Mexico City that he hoped Mexico and the European Union (EU) would press ahead with concluding their updated free trade agreement.

Fox said he and Mexican economy minister Ildefonso Guajardo have began a dialogue aimed at ensuring "that the preferential agreements that the U.K. currently enjoys with Mexico remain in place."

The British government supports the "ambitious and speedy outcome" to the free trade talks between Mexico and the European Union, Fox said, and will later undertake a process to adopt the deal so it also applies to Mexico-British trade post-Brexit.

"In other words, we will replicate (the Mexico-EU) agreement into U.K. law so that as we leave the European Union there is no disruption to the trading environment," Fox said.

He said that he would like to see topics such as e-commerce added to an updated Mexico-United Kingdom trade deal, which would go beyond what EU and Mexican negotiators have discussed.


Nothing like a bit of PR management. You can imagine the conversation with a young Tory Party researcher.

" The EU are planning yet another free trade agreement"
Fox: "No problem we'll just say we pushed the EU into it and we're planning a bigger and better one anyway! "
" Wow - bigger than the Customs Union?"
Fox: "Silly boy. Run along Pike"
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The Countdown begins. on 20:53 - Apr 23 with 1225 viewsGowerjack

I'll just leave this here...


Plastic since 1974
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The Countdown begins. on 00:19 - Apr 24 with 1164 viewsLord_Bony

340 AFLI more each day.

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The Countdown begins. on 07:01 - Apr 24 with 1110 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 19:11 - Apr 23 by longlostjack

Nothing like a bit of PR management. You can imagine the conversation with a young Tory Party researcher.

" The EU are planning yet another free trade agreement"
Fox: "No problem we'll just say we pushed the EU into it and we're planning a bigger and better one anyway! "
" Wow - bigger than the Customs Union?"
Fox: "Silly boy. Run along Pike"
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Nothing like a remainer refusing to believe that anything positive will come from brexit.
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The Countdown begins. on 07:20 - Apr 24 with 1099 viewsKilkennyjack

The Countdown begins. on 07:01 - Apr 24 by Jango

Nothing like a remainer refusing to believe that anything positive will come from brexit.


Nothing good will come from Brexit.

Even the people in charge know it.

In reality its posh Tory types duping the semi-educated.

The anti-foreigner agenda makes it all very unpleasant.

‘Beware of the risen people’ ........🍀🇮🇪 💚 YesCymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

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The Countdown begins. on 07:35 - Apr 24 with 1097 viewspikeypaul

339 AFLI

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The Countdown begins. on 09:03 - Apr 24 with 1071 viewsLord_Bony

No darling its 340 check the dates babes.

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The Countdown begins. on 09:30 - Apr 24 with 1056 viewssherpajacob

The Countdown begins. on 18:52 - Apr 23 by Jango

Mexico and Britain have begun informal talks on an agreement to maintain Britain's preferential trade deal with Mexico after Brexit, British international trade secretary Liam Fox said on Thursday.

Fox also told reporters on a visit to Mexico City that he hoped Mexico and the European Union (EU) would press ahead with concluding their updated free trade agreement.

Fox said he and Mexican economy minister Ildefonso Guajardo have began a dialogue aimed at ensuring "that the preferential agreements that the U.K. currently enjoys with Mexico remain in place."

The British government supports the "ambitious and speedy outcome" to the free trade talks between Mexico and the European Union, Fox said, and will later undertake a process to adopt the deal so it also applies to Mexico-British trade post-Brexit.

"In other words, we will replicate (the Mexico-EU) agreement into U.K. law so that as we leave the European Union there is no disruption to the trading environment," Fox said.

He said that he would like to see topics such as e-commerce added to an updated Mexico-United Kingdom trade deal, which would go beyond what EU and Mexican negotiators have discussed.


"In other words, we will replicate (the Mexico-EU) agreement into U.K. law so that as we leave the European Union there is no disruption to the trading environment," Fox said.

Is the disgraced former defence secretary making the case for or against Brexit here?

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The Countdown begins. on 09:41 - Apr 24 with 1049 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 10:17 - Apr 23 by pikeypaul

Typical remoaner does not accept Democracy.

341 AFLI

Suck it up loser.
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Typical brexfûckwit, can’t use capitals properly.
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The Countdown begins. on 09:45 - Apr 24 with 1047 viewsBatterseajack

Fish! So much in this article.

Fishing is a sh!ty job that's on the decline that no one wants to do. Fish processing is a growing industry that massively outsizes the fishing industry and relies on single market access and openly admits this. Native fish to our shores are mainly exported, whilst Cod and Haddock that sell well here are fished of Norway and Iceland's coasts. And increasing fishing quota's outside of the EU is pure fantasy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/23/business/grimsby-brexit.html
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The Countdown begins. on 09:46 - Apr 24 with 1045 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 18:39 - Apr 23 by longlostjack

While the U.K. Is busily celebrating the birth of another Royal sprogling , that horribly inward looking EU signs a free trade agreement with Mexico.

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1HS0PF


Yeah but, yeah but we’re GREAT BRITAIN like innit, we could do that better on our own.

😂😂😂😂
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The Countdown begins. on 07:21 - Apr 25 with 916 viewspikeypaul

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The Countdown begins. on 07:42 - Apr 25 with 906 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 07:01 - Apr 24 by Jango

Nothing like a remainer refusing to believe that anything positive will come from brexit.


I also refused to believe that any good would come of Bobbly Bradley's appointment Jango. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story eh?

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The Countdown begins. on 10:55 - Apr 25 with 881 viewsBatterseajack

More strain on the NHS as official figures show that nearly 4000 EU nurses left the UK last year. Not being reported in the right wing rags for some reason.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/apr/25/brexit-blamed-record-number-eu-n

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/brexit-eu-nurses-nhs-shortage-quit-unc
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The Countdown begins. on 11:03 - Apr 25 with 877 viewssherpajacob

The Countdown begins. on 10:55 - Apr 25 by Batterseajack

More strain on the NHS as official figures show that nearly 4000 EU nurses left the UK last year. Not being reported in the right wing rags for some reason.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/apr/25/brexit-blamed-record-number-eu-n

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/brexit-eu-nurses-nhs-shortage-quit-unc


Don't worry, plans are already in place to replace them with nurses from Jamaica

What could possibly go wrong?

https://www.nursingtimes.net/news/workforce/uk-government-does-deal-with-jamaica

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The Countdown begins. on 11:12 - Apr 25 with 869 viewsHighjack

The Countdown begins. on 10:55 - Apr 25 by Batterseajack

More strain on the NHS as official figures show that nearly 4000 EU nurses left the UK last year. Not being reported in the right wing rags for some reason.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/apr/25/brexit-blamed-record-number-eu-n

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/brexit-eu-nurses-nhs-shortage-quit-unc


Fake news.

In that second article that Jackie Smith says (paraphrasing because I’m phone illiterate and don’t know how to copy and paste) “retirement and staffing levels are the main reason for nurses quitting the NHS and only a small number cite fears about brexit.”

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The Countdown begins. on 08:14 - Apr 26 with 798 viewspikeypaul

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The Countdown begins. on 21:24 - Apr 26 with 744 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 11:12 - Apr 25 by Highjack

Fake news.

In that second article that Jackie Smith says (paraphrasing because I’m phone illiterate and don’t know how to copy and paste) “retirement and staffing levels are the main reason for nurses quitting the NHS and only a small number cite fears about brexit.”


It's not fake, just being spun in different ways. The numbers of EU nurses registering has fallen through the floor since the referendum (from over 1,300 the year before the referendum, to only 46 this year). The vast majority of overseas nurses since 2008 have come from the EU. The numbers coming in are falling drastically and the numbers leaving are increasing.

I learnt this while perving at the Nursing in Practice magazine

There's a very real cause and effect here. Brexit is cited as a major reason why people are leaving (working conditions is also another biggy). It's a bit of a perfect storm brewing.

People obviously leave through retirement or resignations, etc., too, but government policy is (a) hitting EU recruitment, and (b) their withdrawal of grants for student nurses is having a big impact on local recruitment (or at least it was; there was a load of guff in the press about this in the last couple of years). Applications are down again this year apparently by about 10%. Maybe the pay rise will help that.

What I didn't realise with these foreign nurses is we train them up just to send them home again, under 'earn, learn and return' schemes. That must be mightily inefficient. No sooner have you trained them than you lose them. A quick fix rather than making it a more attractive career choice and training up Brits who'll then spend their careers giving back.

More on that here - https://www.nursinginpractice.com/article/jamaican-nurses-receive-three-years-wo

Interesting stuff, not that I know the first thing about it!
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The Countdown begins. on 08:50 - Apr 27 with 704 viewspikeypaul

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48 weeks today and we are OUT.
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The Countdown begins. on 09:16 - Apr 27 with 695 viewsLord_Bony

The Countdown begins. on 21:24 - Apr 26 by LeonWasGod

It's not fake, just being spun in different ways. The numbers of EU nurses registering has fallen through the floor since the referendum (from over 1,300 the year before the referendum, to only 46 this year). The vast majority of overseas nurses since 2008 have come from the EU. The numbers coming in are falling drastically and the numbers leaving are increasing.

I learnt this while perving at the Nursing in Practice magazine

There's a very real cause and effect here. Brexit is cited as a major reason why people are leaving (working conditions is also another biggy). It's a bit of a perfect storm brewing.

People obviously leave through retirement or resignations, etc., too, but government policy is (a) hitting EU recruitment, and (b) their withdrawal of grants for student nurses is having a big impact on local recruitment (or at least it was; there was a load of guff in the press about this in the last couple of years). Applications are down again this year apparently by about 10%. Maybe the pay rise will help that.

What I didn't realise with these foreign nurses is we train them up just to send them home again, under 'earn, learn and return' schemes. That must be mightily inefficient. No sooner have you trained them than you lose them. A quick fix rather than making it a more attractive career choice and training up Brits who'll then spend their careers giving back.

More on that here - https://www.nursinginpractice.com/article/jamaican-nurses-receive-three-years-wo

Interesting stuff, not that I know the first thing about it!


I agree,doctors and nurses are trained from the EU only to put their skills to work in their native countries....also known as the "brain drain".

Wouldn't it make sense therefore, to have a recruitment drive aimed at British nurses and give them an attractive incentive while they are training?

Just a thought.

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The Countdown begins. on 09:22 - Apr 27 with 691 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 09:16 - Apr 27 by Lord_Bony

I agree,doctors and nurses are trained from the EU only to put their skills to work in their native countries....also known as the "brain drain".

Wouldn't it make sense therefore, to have a recruitment drive aimed at British nurses and give them an attractive incentive while they are training?

Just a thought.


Maybe that £350m a week saving can go towards nurses salaries
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The Countdown begins. on 09:26 - Apr 27 with 690 viewsBatterseajack

This iBorder solution is going well.

"The Whitehall department in charge of Brexit has failed to approach a single external company to obtain ideas of how technology will help solve the NI border issue."

But in response to a freedom of information request submitted by i, officials at the Department for Exiting the European Union admitted the number of companies it had spoken to about such technology was “nil”.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-department-fails-to-consult-on-technica
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The Countdown begins. on 09:31 - Apr 27 with 685 viewsBatterseajack

Not much going on down at Dover either. This Government is a calamity.

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The Countdown begins. on 09:33 - Apr 27 with 681 viewsLord_Bony

The Countdown begins. on 09:22 - Apr 27 by Batterseajack

Maybe that £350m a week saving can go towards nurses salaries


We won't know of any savings until we are actually out.

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The Countdown begins. on 09:37 - Apr 27 with 675 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 09:16 - Apr 27 by Lord_Bony

I agree,doctors and nurses are trained from the EU only to put their skills to work in their native countries....also known as the "brain drain".

Wouldn't it make sense therefore, to have a recruitment drive aimed at British nurses and give them an attractive incentive while they are training?

Just a thought.


That seems too sensible. It's great that the NHS is still seen in such high regard that w're sharing knowledge round the world, etc., etc. But yep, I'd have thought we need to sort out the pipeline of UK staff first as these form the foundation of the NHS for years to come and then do all the overseas training stuff.

Presumably the main driver behind what we do now is cost, as this just seems to be temporary outsourcing as it's cheaper.
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