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The Countdown begins. 23:28 - Nov 10 with 390676 viewspikeypaul



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1:19 pm today was the exact mid point from when the result that the Great British public had decided to leave the EU and the time 11pm March 29th 2019 that Democracy will be delivered.

Happy days.
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The Countdown begins. on 09:47 - Apr 27 with 2987 viewsLord_Bony

The Countdown begins. on 09:37 - Apr 27 by LeonWasGod

That seems too sensible. It's great that the NHS is still seen in such high regard that w're sharing knowledge round the world, etc., etc. But yep, I'd have thought we need to sort out the pipeline of UK staff first as these form the foundation of the NHS for years to come and then do all the overseas training stuff.

Presumably the main driver behind what we do now is cost, as this just seems to be temporary outsourcing as it's cheaper.


British stafff are more likely to stay here and put their skills to use in the U.K. during their working lives.

Plus it would impact on the unemployment figures.

But,maybe I'm missing something.

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The Countdown begins. on 09:58 - Apr 27 with 2960 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 09:47 - Apr 27 by Lord_Bony

British stafff are more likely to stay here and put their skills to use in the U.K. during their working lives.

Plus it would impact on the unemployment figures.

But,maybe I'm missing something.


NHS under funding, under staffing, high qualification requirement and low salaries have always been the issue. But its wrong to suggest that the British workforce doesn't have priority over foreign nationals. Its just that the job is no longer attractive enough for them, particularly under a conservative government.
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The Countdown begins. on 10:29 - Apr 27 with 2957 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 09:47 - Apr 27 by Lord_Bony

British stafff are more likely to stay here and put their skills to use in the U.K. during their working lives.

Plus it would impact on the unemployment figures.

But,maybe I'm missing something.


What's missing is the bit where politicians don't plan for long terms benefits, but instead go for the cheap short-term fix in order to try and win votes / avoid slipping down league tables. Someone else can clear up the mess once they're kicked out of office.
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The Countdown begins. on 10:48 - Apr 27 with 2947 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

The Countdown begins. on 10:29 - Apr 27 by LeonWasGod

What's missing is the bit where politicians don't plan for long terms benefits, but instead go for the cheap short-term fix in order to try and win votes / avoid slipping down league tables. Someone else can clear up the mess once they're kicked out of office.


You have to give it to Cameron,he seen it coming and f@cked right off .

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The Countdown begins. on 10:52 - Apr 27 with 2927 viewsEbo

β€œIf there is no profitability of continuing operations in the UK - not Japanese only - then no private company can continue operations,” Koji Tsuruoka told reporters on Downing Street when asked how real the threat was to Japanese companies of Britain not securing frictionless EU trade.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-japan/japan-warns-on-brexit-we-cann

Fecking idiots voting to risk this, the same people probably work for Japanese companies as well.

Thank you, goodnight and bollocks
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The Countdown begins. on 11:51 - Apr 27 with 2910 viewsJango

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β€œIf there is no profitability of continuing operations in the UK - not Japanese only - then no private company can continue operations,” Koji Tsuruoka told reporters on Downing Street when asked how real the threat was to Japanese companies of Britain not securing frictionless EU trade.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-japan/japan-warns-on-brexit-we-cann

Fecking idiots voting to risk this, the same people probably work for Japanese companies as well.


If being the operative word. That would be the case whether we were staying in or out. Media putting a negative spin on things again.
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The Countdown begins. on 11:52 - Apr 27 with 2907 viewsJango

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-43898969

Is this brexits fault also?

We’re turning away highly skilled, needed professionals away from around the world and letting in any man and his dog in from Europe. Criminal.
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The Countdown begins. on 16:00 - Apr 27 with 2865 viewsHighjack

The Countdown begins. on 21:24 - Apr 26 by LeonWasGod

It's not fake, just being spun in different ways. The numbers of EU nurses registering has fallen through the floor since the referendum (from over 1,300 the year before the referendum, to only 46 this year). The vast majority of overseas nurses since 2008 have come from the EU. The numbers coming in are falling drastically and the numbers leaving are increasing.

I learnt this while perving at the Nursing in Practice magazine

There's a very real cause and effect here. Brexit is cited as a major reason why people are leaving (working conditions is also another biggy). It's a bit of a perfect storm brewing.

People obviously leave through retirement or resignations, etc., too, but government policy is (a) hitting EU recruitment, and (b) their withdrawal of grants for student nurses is having a big impact on local recruitment (or at least it was; there was a load of guff in the press about this in the last couple of years). Applications are down again this year apparently by about 10%. Maybe the pay rise will help that.

What I didn't realise with these foreign nurses is we train them up just to send them home again, under 'earn, learn and return' schemes. That must be mightily inefficient. No sooner have you trained them than you lose them. A quick fix rather than making it a more attractive career choice and training up Brits who'll then spend their careers giving back.

More on that here - https://www.nursinginpractice.com/article/jamaican-nurses-receive-three-years-wo

Interesting stuff, not that I know the first thing about it!


Of course it’s fake, or at the very least click bait.

The headline screams Botched Brexit causing millions of nurses to quit and throw themselves off beachy head in a fit of despair, then later a quote stating that the main reason people are leaving the profession is due to staffing pressures and retirement, and that Brexit fears affect a small number of people.

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The Countdown begins. on 07:06 - Apr 28 with 2789 viewspikeypaul

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The Countdown begins. on 11:51 - Apr 29 with 2682 viewspikeypaul

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The Countdown begins. on 15:40 - Apr 29 with 2639 viewsLord_Bony



How much longer?

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The Countdown begins. on 15:46 - Apr 29 with 2631 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Countdown begins. on 15:40 - Apr 29 by Lord_Bony



How much longer?


334 days. Then we’ll start on counting down the transitional period during which we won’t actually be a member of the EU but we’ll still be paying and obeying all its laws, including any new ones that come in during the period. We won’t have any influence on how those laws will be shaped mind. Taking back control see.

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The Countdown begins. on 15:48 - Apr 29 with 2626 viewsLord_Bony

AFLI more each day then.

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The Countdown begins. on 17:15 - Apr 29 with 2589 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 15:46 - Apr 29 by exiledclaseboy

334 days. Then we’ll start on counting down the transitional period during which we won’t actually be a member of the EU but we’ll still be paying and obeying all its laws, including any new ones that come in during the period. We won’t have any influence on how those laws will be shaped mind. Taking back control see.


Just think of it as a means to an end. They’ll have no control over us whatsoever then.
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The Countdown begins. on 17:16 - Apr 29 with 2588 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Countdown begins. on 17:15 - Apr 29 by Jango

Just think of it as a means to an end. They’ll have no control over us whatsoever then.


Depends on the terms of any trade deal.

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The Countdown begins. on 17:22 - Apr 29 with 2583 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 17:16 - Apr 29 by exiledclaseboy

Depends on the terms of any trade deal.


hopefully we’ll get a great trade deal. It will be despite the best efforts of the bitter remainers in parliament trying to make any deal as hard as possible. Very sad.
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The Countdown begins. on 18:52 - Apr 29 with 2560 viewssherpajacob

The Countdown begins. on 17:22 - Apr 29 by Jango

hopefully we’ll get a great trade deal. It will be despite the best efforts of the bitter remainers in parliament trying to make any deal as hard as possible. Very sad.


Remainers are reasonably happy with the current trade deal.

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The Countdown begins. on 20:11 - Apr 29 with 2543 viewsJango

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Remainers are reasonably happy with the current trade deal.


Unlucky.
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The Countdown begins. on 08:29 - Apr 30 with 2483 viewspikeypaul

The Countdown begins. on 18:52 - Apr 29 by sherpajacob

Remainers are reasonably happy with the current trade deal.


Is that the one the country voted to leave?

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The Countdown begins. on 12:46 - Apr 30 with 2448 viewsBobby_Fischer

The Countdown begins. on 15:46 - Apr 29 by exiledclaseboy

334 days. Then we’ll start on counting down the transitional period during which we won’t actually be a member of the EU but we’ll still be paying and obeying all its laws, including any new ones that come in during the period. We won’t have any influence on how those laws will be shaped mind. Taking back control see.


Pikey Paul will need a new keyboard by the time we're out, the print off the AFLI keys will have disappeared!

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The Countdown begins. on 08:14 - May 1 with 2364 viewspikeypaul

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Suck it up you Losers Brexit is coming hopefully with NO deal despite the lords thinking they are above the Democratic voice of the people.

29th March 2019 and we will be out πŸ˜ƒ FACT
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The Countdown begins. on 10:11 - May 1 with 2326 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 16:00 - Apr 27 by Highjack

Of course it’s fake, or at the very least click bait.

The headline screams Botched Brexit causing millions of nurses to quit and throw themselves off beachy head in a fit of despair, then later a quote stating that the main reason people are leaving the profession is due to staffing pressures and retirement, and that Brexit fears affect a small number of people.


It doesn't mention anything about millions of nurses quitting or taking up paragliding without paragliders .

They must have changed the text in that second article; what it actully says now is that staffing pressures and retirement are the main reasons for UK staff leaving, whilst the small number of staff from other EU countries interviewed cited Brexit as their major concern/reason. It's not saying Brexit fears affect a small number, it's saying only a small number of staff from other EU countries were interviewed.

The numbers of the staff from other EU countries are significant - only 800 arriving last year compared to over 6,000 and 9,000 in the previous two years. Against vacancies reported anywhere between 30,000 and 40,000. So without this feckwiterry and the general anti-immigrant mood in the counrty we could be be filling a third to a quarter more of our vacancies than we are.

Which is why the Nursing and Midwifery Council and the The Royal College of Nursing are speaking out.
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The Countdown begins. on 10:21 - May 1 with 2318 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 10:11 - May 1 by LeonWasGod

It doesn't mention anything about millions of nurses quitting or taking up paragliding without paragliders .

They must have changed the text in that second article; what it actully says now is that staffing pressures and retirement are the main reasons for UK staff leaving, whilst the small number of staff from other EU countries interviewed cited Brexit as their major concern/reason. It's not saying Brexit fears affect a small number, it's saying only a small number of staff from other EU countries were interviewed.

The numbers of the staff from other EU countries are significant - only 800 arriving last year compared to over 6,000 and 9,000 in the previous two years. Against vacancies reported anywhere between 30,000 and 40,000. So without this feckwiterry and the general anti-immigrant mood in the counrty we could be be filling a third to a quarter more of our vacancies than we are.

Which is why the Nursing and Midwifery Council and the The Royal College of Nursing are speaking out.


And once we leave the EU we’ll have a system in place where we can attract the best nurses and doctors from all over the world without having to worry about the number of unskilled parasites swamping the place from every corner of Europe. Those figures you quote are only a result of the uncertainty around brexit caused by the majority of remainers scaremongering and making negotiations far more difficult than need be.
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The Countdown begins. on 12:29 - May 1 with 2288 viewspikeypaul

Jango the loser remoaners are happy to cut their noses off to spite their face by continually trying to weaken our negotiation position to the point where no deal could well be the outcome and a very hard exit.

They want the Democratic will of the people to be ignored which sums up the types they are.

They are happy to have Democracy thrown into the bin in the UK and us never be recognised as a Democracy ever again ,very sad just because of a few bruised egos.

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The Countdown begins. on 15:34 - May 1 with 2247 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 10:21 - May 1 by Jango

And once we leave the EU we’ll have a system in place where we can attract the best nurses and doctors from all over the world without having to worry about the number of unskilled parasites swamping the place from every corner of Europe. Those figures you quote are only a result of the uncertainty around brexit caused by the majority of remainers scaremongering and making negotiations far more difficult than need be.


We can now, or we could if the Government didn't block visa applications. The target to get net immigration down to 'tens of thousands' (or under 100,000 or whatever the target is now) is completely inocompatible with being able to suddently atrract more people from across the world. There's a contradiction there that isn't acceptable to the Tory core vote. So the only way a truly 'Global Britain' will occur is if government or their policy changes.
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