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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK 23:28 - Nov 10 with 792478 viewspikeypaul



And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:03 - Apr 17 with 575 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:53 - Apr 17 by Lohengrin

As always it depends on where the poll is conducted and the demographic questioned.

This last three years ought to have left you with about as much residual faith in the accuracy of polls as you retain in the Easter Bunny, mun.


I don’t have any faith in them. But they’re an indication of trend.

The demographic including geography must be representative of the UK electorate as a whole, otherwise it’s not a relevant survey.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:10 - Apr 17 with 568 viewsLohengrin

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:03 - Apr 17 by londonlisa2001

I don’t have any faith in them. But they’re an indication of trend.

The demographic including geography must be representative of the UK electorate as a whole, otherwise it’s not a relevant survey.


That’s what I hold in question, Lis, the relevancy of most any of it.

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:20 - Apr 17 with 547 viewsHighjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:03 - Apr 17 by Batterseajack

Your right, and looking into it now, there's a few eurosceptic Tory MEPs.


Neil kinnock was a massive eurosceptic until he saw the pay cheque

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:17 - Apr 17 with 502 viewsKilkennyjack

Hi Pikey,

Twitter says.....

Vote Leave campaign identified 'low information voters' with the sole intention of misinforming and persuading them to vote to leave the EU;

Do you think thats true ?
Its quite rude as well.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:32 - Apr 17 with 494 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:41 - Apr 17 by londonlisa2001

Yes, quite a lot are unhappy that Labour are still sitting on the fence.

I’m surprised that the Brexit / UKIP % isn’t higher. Assuming the majority of ardent brexiteers will now vote for one of those in the EU elections (the general election would be different, but the EU elections are a single issue matter at this point), for them to be getting a combined % of 34% isn’t very high.


No There’s quite a lot of unhappy labour voters in labour strongholds who want brexit and want it now and feel utterly betrayed by labour
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:32 - Apr 17 with 494 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:41 - Apr 17 by londonlisa2001

Yes, quite a lot are unhappy that Labour are still sitting on the fence.

I’m surprised that the Brexit / UKIP % isn’t higher. Assuming the majority of ardent brexiteers will now vote for one of those in the EU elections (the general election would be different, but the EU elections are a single issue matter at this point), for them to be getting a combined % of 34% isn’t very high.


No There’s quite a lot of unhappy labour voters in labour strongholds who want brexit and want it now and feel utterly betrayed by labour

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:38 - Apr 17 with 483 viewswaynekerr55

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:32 - Apr 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

No There’s quite a lot of unhappy labour voters in labour strongholds who want brexit and want it now and feel utterly betrayed by labour


Arf


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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:41 - Apr 17 with 482 viewsAce_Jack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:32 - Apr 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

No There’s quite a lot of unhappy labour voters in labour strongholds who want brexit and want it now and feel utterly betrayed by labour
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You're lying or willfully ignorant. A majority of Labour voters in a majority of labour seats voted to remain in the EU.

Labour's Brexit stance is completely down to Corbyn's euro skepticism and the defence of saying "what about labour leave voters" is pure spin.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-vot
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-second-referendum-l

Furthermore, we are a member led party and we set the policy. Labour members are overwhelmingly in favour of a second referendum but Jeremy ignores us because he's a Brexiteer. If Blair was in charge you'd be on fire with rage right now.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:43 - Apr 17 with 481 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:41 - Apr 17 by Ace_Jack

You're lying or willfully ignorant. A majority of Labour voters in a majority of labour seats voted to remain in the EU.

Labour's Brexit stance is completely down to Corbyn's euro skepticism and the defence of saying "what about labour leave voters" is pure spin.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-vot
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-second-referendum-l

Furthermore, we are a member led party and we set the policy. Labour members are overwhelmingly in favour of a second referendum but Jeremy ignores us because he's a Brexiteer. If Blair was in charge you'd be on fire with rage right now.


Nah you just get all personal

Do you actually live in Swansea ?



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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:48 - Apr 17 with 470 viewsAce_Jack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:43 - Apr 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

Nah you just get all personal

Do you actually live in Swansea ?



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it's the only way to cut through the bullshit with the cult these days.

I live on Brynteg Road in Gorseinon and work in the University. Apparently that makes me a metropolitan elite.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:59 - Apr 17 with 455 viewsWarwickHunt

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:38 - Apr 17 by waynekerr55

Arf



Sajid (I coulda bin a contender) Javid from da hood wondered why the cabinet rejected his plan based on this technology.

This idiot could be the next PM. One of several.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:02 - Apr 17 with 456 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:48 - Apr 17 by Ace_Jack

it's the only way to cut through the bullshit with the cult these days.

I live on Brynteg Road in Gorseinon and work in the University. Apparently that makes me a metropolitan elite.


cult facking hell

I’ll be supporting the next socialist leader with just as much vigour if not more .
And the one after that by the way.

I’d say you are no where near a metropolitan elitist

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:24 - Apr 17 with 434 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:02 - Apr 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

cult facking hell

I’ll be supporting the next socialist leader with just as much vigour if not more .
And the one after that by the way.

I’d say you are no where near a metropolitan elitist


So it's fair to say you support the concept rather than the leader then?

That's genuinely interesting, but also means the cause greater than the leader which has disadvantages.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:56 - Apr 17 with 413 viewsPegojack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:58 - Apr 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

Oh dear dear




I know it's only a poll and therefore about as reliable as DYSS's support for the Swans, but I'm quite encouraged by that. If you assume that the Labour leavers roughly equal the Tory remainers, I make it that there is a slight majority to scrap Brexit - 51% to 49%.

Suck it up, Gammons!
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:13 - Apr 17 with 392 viewsFlashberryjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:56 - Apr 17 by Pegojack

I know it's only a poll and therefore about as reliable as DYSS's support for the Swans, but I'm quite encouraged by that. If you assume that the Labour leavers roughly equal the Tory remainers, I make it that there is a slight majority to scrap Brexit - 51% to 49%.

Suck it up, Gammons!


51% to 49% err! is that even a majority ?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:22 - Apr 17 with 381 viewswestwalesed

Anyone who thinks that the fact the Brexit Party on 27%, having only launched last Friday, with no infrastructure and funded primarily by small donations is NOT an incredible score is wilfully deluded. It's going to be a seismic election.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:42 - Apr 17 with 350 viewsWingstandwood

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:22 - Apr 17 by westwalesed

Anyone who thinks that the fact the Brexit Party on 27%, having only launched last Friday, with no infrastructure and funded primarily by small donations is NOT an incredible score is wilfully deluded. It's going to be a seismic election.


Agree! I predicted on here a few weeks back that if voters of a Brexit-betrayed mindset were to vote in the midst of all this turmoil the mainstream parties will lose a huge amount of votes. A case of people either staying home or voting for an anti-EU party.

When I did my prediction the Brexit Party was not even formed, nor realised it was going to be formed.

I reckon giving it the Brexit name is astute logic/strategy, that'll add significant power to its potential to damage the two political Lab/Con giants . It'll be anti-establishment, anti-career-politician, punk rock politics, working class revolt, protest vote and cry of despair all over again. Like I said previously the upcoming election will be treated like it is another referendum.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:53 - Apr 17 with 331 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:22 - Apr 17 by westwalesed

Anyone who thinks that the fact the Brexit Party on 27%, having only launched last Friday, with no infrastructure and funded primarily by small donations is NOT an incredible score is wilfully deluded. It's going to be a seismic election.


You may not want to probe too deeply into their funding...

Others are, however. Thankfully.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:58 - Apr 17 with 324 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:32 - Apr 17 by oh_tommy_tommy

No There’s quite a lot of unhappy labour voters in labour strongholds who want brexit and want it now and feel utterly betrayed by labour


All the evidence shows that Labour would gain more from remain supporters switching to Labour in the event of Corbyn getting off his fence than lose by Brexit Labour voters switching away.

Look at what happened in Newport. Leavers voted for a candidate who supports remain just because she was Labour. You may find Labour strongholds where the Brexit / UKIP candidate comes second rather than the Tories but not many seats will switch as previous Lib Dems / Tories will vote Labour if they categorically support a 2nd referendum.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:01 - Apr 17 with 318 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:24 - Apr 17 by bluey_the_blue

So it's fair to say you support the concept rather than the leader then?

That's genuinely interesting, but also means the cause greater than the leader which has disadvantages.


Indeed blue

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:01 - Apr 17 with 318 viewsFlashberryjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:53 - Apr 17 by londonlisa2001

You may not want to probe too deeply into their funding...

Others are, however. Thankfully.


Dodgy funding in party politics.....heavens above! who'd have thought it.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:02 - Apr 17 with 317 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:58 - Apr 17 by londonlisa2001

All the evidence shows that Labour would gain more from remain supporters switching to Labour in the event of Corbyn getting off his fence than lose by Brexit Labour voters switching away.

Look at what happened in Newport. Leavers voted for a candidate who supports remain just because she was Labour. You may find Labour strongholds where the Brexit / UKIP candidate comes second rather than the Tories but not many seats will switch as previous Lib Dems / Tories will vote Labour if they categorically support a 2nd referendum.


And then the instant point of attack is that Corbyn, lauded as being a man of principles and integrity did a U turn to try to get power.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:04 - Apr 17 with 305 viewswestwalesed

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:53 - Apr 17 by londonlisa2001

You may not want to probe too deeply into their funding...

Others are, however. Thankfully.


Aaron Banks again is it?

Or something else? Do tell!

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:05 - Apr 17 with 305 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:01 - Apr 17 by Flashberryjack

Dodgy funding in party politics.....heavens above! who'd have thought it.


There’s dodgy funding and there’s raising more money per day than momentum managed at the height of Corbyn power, all via PayPal and all at the exact threshold to avoid the reporting guidelines kicking in.

In unrelated news, the EU have recently tightened up money laundering legislation. 2 days after we were supposed to leave. Fascinating isn’t it.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:07 - Apr 17 with 301 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:04 - Apr 17 by westwalesed

Aaron Banks again is it?

Or something else? Do tell!


Why not stop accepting what people are saying that have been proven to embrace illegal funding and do some investigation. Seriously. I don’t understand how anyone can believe what Farage etc are saying about money given their track record.
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