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And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:44 - May 31 with 1179 viewsKilkennyjack



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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:01 - May 31 with 1158 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:32 - May 31 by exiledclaseboy

So they were an option then.


Nope. Read the article.

"Option" refers to the listed parties. Tories, Labour, Lib Dems etc were all listed as selectable options. Brexit Party were not listed. You had to select Other and list them.

Just breath, relax and accept for once you were wrong and I was right. I'm being magnanimous here...
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:06 - May 31 with 1149 viewsKilkennyjack





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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:08 - May 31 with 1144 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:01 - May 31 by bluey_the_blue

Nope. Read the article.

"Option" refers to the listed parties. Tories, Labour, Lib Dems etc were all listed as selectable options. Brexit Party were not listed. You had to select Other and list them.

Just breath, relax and accept for once you were wrong and I was right. I'm being magnanimous here...


No. You could choose to respond by choosing other and saying Brexit Party. Ergo, they were an option as were all the other parties not listed.

Poll: Tory leader

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:12 - May 31 with 1141 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:06 - May 31 by Kilkennyjack





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Nice to see more bs on twitter.

If all Leavers were NF supporters, I'd suggest that NF might have had more than zero MPs, MEPs heck even local councillors.

Still, generalise by tarring all Leave voters the same as a "party" that since 1983 has failed to get above 0.1% of the vote, failed to save a deposit and that in 2015 fielded a whopping 7 candidates attracting an average of 159 votes per candidate...
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:16 - May 31 with 1137 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:08 - May 31 by exiledclaseboy

No. You could choose to respond by choosing other and saying Brexit Party. Ergo, they were an option as were all the other parties not listed.


Listen, I know you civil servants are used to burying detail in section 2.4, sub-section 6.7 annex III pt 5, paragraph 2.1 but it's still silly and wrong in this case.

Brexit Party funnily enough did pretty well in Euro elections. Yougov made the baffling choice to not list them as an option - instead hiding them behind "Other".
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:52 - May 31 with 1100 viewsWingstandwood

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:06 - May 31 by Kilkennyjack





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Excuse me!

Voting Brexit has been seen as a common sense choice for many! A case of how much longer can the country cope with the previous (and growing)) mass influx from millions of other white, christian country of origin Europeans?

Oh and white christian country of origin Europeans that I and joe public would never in a million years consider to be a different race. So bang out of the window goes the smears and race card. They're about as much a different race as white, christian country of origin Belfast citizens.

A statistician was interviewed on ITN news, and based upon previous U.K population increases mentioned/predicted a future population increase in the U.K the size of TEN BIRMINGHAMS. People living on Planet Earth and not some happy-clappy EU-parallel universe would naturally be worried by that staggering figure.

Lowering of non-public sector indigenous working conditions and job security aside, If anyone seriously thinks things can continue as they are?... He/She are living in cloud cuckoo land. We're living in times where cataract surgery is now being rationed, people cannot access an NHS dentist, ambulances fail to turn up, people have got to jump through hoops to get a G.P appointment, G.P surgery closures at an all time high etc, etc, etc. And some loons still want things to continue as they are.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:51 - May 31 with 1032 viewsKilkennyjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:52 - May 31 by Wingstandwood

Excuse me!

Voting Brexit has been seen as a common sense choice for many! A case of how much longer can the country cope with the previous (and growing)) mass influx from millions of other white, christian country of origin Europeans?

Oh and white christian country of origin Europeans that I and joe public would never in a million years consider to be a different race. So bang out of the window goes the smears and race card. They're about as much a different race as white, christian country of origin Belfast citizens.

A statistician was interviewed on ITN news, and based upon previous U.K population increases mentioned/predicted a future population increase in the U.K the size of TEN BIRMINGHAMS. People living on Planet Earth and not some happy-clappy EU-parallel universe would naturally be worried by that staggering figure.

Lowering of non-public sector indigenous working conditions and job security aside, If anyone seriously thinks things can continue as they are?... He/She are living in cloud cuckoo land. We're living in times where cataract surgery is now being rationed, people cannot access an NHS dentist, ambulances fail to turn up, people have got to jump through hoops to get a G.P appointment, G.P surgery closures at an all time high etc, etc, etc. And some loons still want things to continue as they are.


Thanks for that.
Not being funny like, but ....

1. I thought Leavers did not like ‘experts’ like your stats man ...?

2. Do you think the exit of large numbers of EU NHS professionals will help you access critical health services ?

Brexit is a dull idea.
Dont be like Brexit.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:05 - May 31 with 985 viewsWingstandwood

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:51 - May 31 by Kilkennyjack

Thanks for that.
Not being funny like, but ....

1. I thought Leavers did not like ‘experts’ like your stats man ...?

2. Do you think the exit of large numbers of EU NHS professionals will help you access critical health services ?

Brexit is a dull idea.
Dont be like Brexit.


Critical care? Many patients are currently unable to access critical care in adequate time. My sister holds a specialist position within SW Wales cancer/oncology service(s) and she has had to take the role of a patient's own G.P having to deal with extremely distressed terminally ill cancer sufferers unable to gain emergency access through their own G.P. practice triage system.

Her personal hospital office number is the last port of call and the last desperate cry for help!

The lack of G.P availability and triage system has created a lot of distress and suffering (both physical and psychological) to individuals considered to be THE most priority cases. And to think some are still happy to have the NHS placed under even more unbearable strain, i.e. to have a U.K flooded with even more millions of non-medically trained EU workers.

She has also had to (by means of volunteering) had to drop off stuff like nebulisers on her way home from work. That truly shows the extreme strain the NHS is under. The problem does not lie with current EU staff who would be welcome in every country. The problem lies with the sheer weight of number of patients... Repatriation of EU staff would not happen here, there, or anywhere. The future looming catastrophe and problem lies with the MILLIONS of non-medical professionals that have placed severe strain on current/future NHS services.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:47 - May 31 with 954 viewsKilkennyjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:05 - May 31 by Wingstandwood

Critical care? Many patients are currently unable to access critical care in adequate time. My sister holds a specialist position within SW Wales cancer/oncology service(s) and she has had to take the role of a patient's own G.P having to deal with extremely distressed terminally ill cancer sufferers unable to gain emergency access through their own G.P. practice triage system.

Her personal hospital office number is the last port of call and the last desperate cry for help!

The lack of G.P availability and triage system has created a lot of distress and suffering (both physical and psychological) to individuals considered to be THE most priority cases. And to think some are still happy to have the NHS placed under even more unbearable strain, i.e. to have a U.K flooded with even more millions of non-medically trained EU workers.

She has also had to (by means of volunteering) had to drop off stuff like nebulisers on her way home from work. That truly shows the extreme strain the NHS is under. The problem does not lie with current EU staff who would be welcome in every country. The problem lies with the sheer weight of number of patients... Repatriation of EU staff would not happen here, there, or anywhere. The future looming catastrophe and problem lies with the MILLIONS of non-medical professionals that have placed severe strain on current/future NHS services.
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Your sister is a hero.

Total respect.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:54 - May 31 with 947 viewsWingstandwood

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:47 - May 31 by Kilkennyjack

Your sister is a hero.

Total respect.


And a lot more!
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:57 - May 31 with 915 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:08 - May 31 by exiledclaseboy

No. You could choose to respond by choosing other and saying Brexit Party. Ergo, they were an option as were all the other parties not listed.


Sums you lot up really.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:13 - May 31 with 876 viewsBytholWyn

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:52 - May 31 by Wingstandwood

Excuse me!

Voting Brexit has been seen as a common sense choice for many! A case of how much longer can the country cope with the previous (and growing)) mass influx from millions of other white, christian country of origin Europeans?

Oh and white christian country of origin Europeans that I and joe public would never in a million years consider to be a different race. So bang out of the window goes the smears and race card. They're about as much a different race as white, christian country of origin Belfast citizens.

A statistician was interviewed on ITN news, and based upon previous U.K population increases mentioned/predicted a future population increase in the U.K the size of TEN BIRMINGHAMS. People living on Planet Earth and not some happy-clappy EU-parallel universe would naturally be worried by that staggering figure.

Lowering of non-public sector indigenous working conditions and job security aside, If anyone seriously thinks things can continue as they are?... He/She are living in cloud cuckoo land. We're living in times where cataract surgery is now being rationed, people cannot access an NHS dentist, ambulances fail to turn up, people have got to jump through hoops to get a G.P appointment, G.P surgery closures at an all time high etc, etc, etc. And some loons still want things to continue as they are.


What a risible argument about the nature of racism. As this Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism points out, In terms of contemporary usage "racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial." This is a typical straw man argument that the hard right come up with that make them look like complete idiots.

If you're so concerned about immigration, why aren't you concerned about the more than three-quarters of net migration that comes from outside the EU? The net migration figures from the EU have been in sharp decline since the referendum result, halving in its contribution to overall net migration.

No doubt the referendum result has been a big factor, but there has also been a decline in migration from the EU8 (the countries that joined at the same time as Poland) for a while - so that there is now no net migration from these countries. Net migration from the established EU countries has also reduced, owing in part to improvement in the condition of the Eurozone economies. The long-term trajectory for net migration from EU is on a downward trend regardless of Brexit, as the Eastern European economies continue to grow, and those countries find it easier to compete on wages and retain their young.

Objectively, if you're going to be banging on about migration you should be banging on about migration from Asia or other non-EU parts of the world. But strangely enough - there has been just about no discussion of this at all in the media or elsewhere. Which rather suggests that this concern about migration is a bit of a sham. Yet another phoney argument onto which to hang anti-EU sentiment. Or it could just be the case that you, like so many others Leavers are just plain ignorant and prejudiced.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:18 - May 31 with 863 viewsLuther27

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:13 - May 31 by BytholWyn

What a risible argument about the nature of racism. As this Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism points out, In terms of contemporary usage "racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial." This is a typical straw man argument that the hard right come up with that make them look like complete idiots.

If you're so concerned about immigration, why aren't you concerned about the more than three-quarters of net migration that comes from outside the EU? The net migration figures from the EU have been in sharp decline since the referendum result, halving in its contribution to overall net migration.

No doubt the referendum result has been a big factor, but there has also been a decline in migration from the EU8 (the countries that joined at the same time as Poland) for a while - so that there is now no net migration from these countries. Net migration from the established EU countries has also reduced, owing in part to improvement in the condition of the Eurozone economies. The long-term trajectory for net migration from EU is on a downward trend regardless of Brexit, as the Eastern European economies continue to grow, and those countries find it easier to compete on wages and retain their young.

Objectively, if you're going to be banging on about migration you should be banging on about migration from Asia or other non-EU parts of the world. But strangely enough - there has been just about no discussion of this at all in the media or elsewhere. Which rather suggests that this concern about migration is a bit of a sham. Yet another phoney argument onto which to hang anti-EU sentiment. Or it could just be the case that you, like so many others Leavers are just plain ignorant and prejudiced.
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Bit like you after reading that load of shte
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:33 - May 31 with 839 viewsWingstandwood

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:13 - May 31 by BytholWyn

What a risible argument about the nature of racism. As this Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism points out, In terms of contemporary usage "racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial." This is a typical straw man argument that the hard right come up with that make them look like complete idiots.

If you're so concerned about immigration, why aren't you concerned about the more than three-quarters of net migration that comes from outside the EU? The net migration figures from the EU have been in sharp decline since the referendum result, halving in its contribution to overall net migration.

No doubt the referendum result has been a big factor, but there has also been a decline in migration from the EU8 (the countries that joined at the same time as Poland) for a while - so that there is now no net migration from these countries. Net migration from the established EU countries has also reduced, owing in part to improvement in the condition of the Eurozone economies. The long-term trajectory for net migration from EU is on a downward trend regardless of Brexit, as the Eastern European economies continue to grow, and those countries find it easier to compete on wages and retain their young.

Objectively, if you're going to be banging on about migration you should be banging on about migration from Asia or other non-EU parts of the world. But strangely enough - there has been just about no discussion of this at all in the media or elsewhere. Which rather suggests that this concern about migration is a bit of a sham. Yet another phoney argument onto which to hang anti-EU sentiment. Or it could just be the case that you, like so many others Leavers are just plain ignorant and prejudiced.
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Yeah, could you imagine trying to fit a 12mm bolt into a 10mm hole, the world of reality and common sense hey?

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:39 - May 31 with 830 viewsBytholWyn

No coherent answer to my observations then. What a surprise.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:52 - May 31 with 814 viewsWingstandwood

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:39 - May 31 by BytholWyn

No coherent answer to my observations then. What a surprise.


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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 00:14 - Jun 1 with 793 viewschad

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:16 - May 31 by bluey_the_blue

Listen, I know you civil servants are used to burying detail in section 2.4, sub-section 6.7 annex III pt 5, paragraph 2.1 but it's still silly and wrong in this case.

Brexit Party funnily enough did pretty well in Euro elections. Yougov made the baffling choice to not list them as an option - instead hiding them behind "Other".


That’s what the civil service call managed balance ;)

Be fair they were just smoothing the results by hiding the Brexit party better than Wally. Seems by presenting it unfairly makes their results more accurate, how did that go for them in 2016?

Didn’t want too many people voting for the Brexit Party, so used the same method that makes the majority just agree to cookies on the first screen.

Perhaps hoping for a self fulfilling prophecy.

Speaking of which anyone taking a private prosecution against the gov of BOE for his wilfully reckless false predictions of doom in 2016?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 06:42 - Jun 1 with 702 viewsWarwickHunt

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 00:14 - Jun 1 by chad

That’s what the civil service call managed balance ;)

Be fair they were just smoothing the results by hiding the Brexit party better than Wally. Seems by presenting it unfairly makes their results more accurate, how did that go for them in 2016?

Didn’t want too many people voting for the Brexit Party, so used the same method that makes the majority just agree to cookies on the first screen.

Perhaps hoping for a self fulfilling prophecy.

Speaking of which anyone taking a private prosecution against the gov of BOE for his wilfully reckless false predictions of doom in 2016?


Look up “predictions”.

Hope this helps.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 10:03 - Jun 1 with 661 viewschad

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 06:42 - Jun 1 by WarwickHunt

Look up “predictions”.

Hope this helps.


Ah thanks :)

I think though that you may have omitted to take into account the qualifying descriptors that proceed the word ‘predictions’ in my post, and need to consider the very important and serious national public professional responsibilities that this civil servant has, he should remember his name is Carney not Karno.

The word prediction is not an excuse for gross negligence in public office.

When the Bank of England is forced to apologise for said behaviour I think we can conclude these predictions were pretty reckless being (as they admitted) far from accurate. The potential impacts on our country of such public and profoundly incorrect predictions of doom from such an important source, go far beyond the potential serious strong political intervention in the Brexit vote (fake news from a source that should be fiercely independent). As well as undermining the Bank of England, they, as indicated in my post, also tend towards a self fulfilling prophecy and in themselves damage the economy. All totally diametrically opposed to the responsibilities of said post.

Certainly a subprime performance by a man who commanded such a massive reward package. Perhaps he needs to recall this is GB not GS.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 10:13 - Jun 1 with 654 viewsWarwickHunt

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 10:03 - Jun 1 by chad

Ah thanks :)

I think though that you may have omitted to take into account the qualifying descriptors that proceed the word ‘predictions’ in my post, and need to consider the very important and serious national public professional responsibilities that this civil servant has, he should remember his name is Carney not Karno.

The word prediction is not an excuse for gross negligence in public office.

When the Bank of England is forced to apologise for said behaviour I think we can conclude these predictions were pretty reckless being (as they admitted) far from accurate. The potential impacts on our country of such public and profoundly incorrect predictions of doom from such an important source, go far beyond the potential serious strong political intervention in the Brexit vote (fake news from a source that should be fiercely independent). As well as undermining the Bank of England, they, as indicated in my post, also tend towards a self fulfilling prophecy and in themselves damage the economy. All totally diametrically opposed to the responsibilities of said post.

Certainly a subprime performance by a man who commanded such a massive reward package. Perhaps he needs to recall this is GB not GS.


OK. Look up "apples" and then "oranges".

Compare. Contrast.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 10:45 - Jun 1 with 647 viewsLeonWasGod

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:52 - May 31 by Wingstandwood

Excuse me!

Voting Brexit has been seen as a common sense choice for many! A case of how much longer can the country cope with the previous (and growing)) mass influx from millions of other white, christian country of origin Europeans?

Oh and white christian country of origin Europeans that I and joe public would never in a million years consider to be a different race. So bang out of the window goes the smears and race card. They're about as much a different race as white, christian country of origin Belfast citizens.

A statistician was interviewed on ITN news, and based upon previous U.K population increases mentioned/predicted a future population increase in the U.K the size of TEN BIRMINGHAMS. People living on Planet Earth and not some happy-clappy EU-parallel universe would naturally be worried by that staggering figure.

Lowering of non-public sector indigenous working conditions and job security aside, If anyone seriously thinks things can continue as they are?... He/She are living in cloud cuckoo land. We're living in times where cataract surgery is now being rationed, people cannot access an NHS dentist, ambulances fail to turn up, people have got to jump through hoops to get a G.P appointment, G.P surgery closures at an all time high etc, etc, etc. And some loons still want things to continue as they are.


It's not common sense at all. It's being conditioned to demonise foreigners and blame all our problems on them. People from 'other white, christian European countries' aren't even the largest group of immigrants, let alone responsible for all our population growth.

Common sense would be looking at the REAL reasons behind NHS waiting times, not being able to get quick doctor appointments, emergency service respone times. For that you're best listening to the people who work in those roles, not Nigel Farage and the politically motivated press.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:24 - Jun 1 with 628 viewssg1912

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 10:13 - Jun 1 by WarwickHunt

OK. Look up "apples" and then "oranges".

Compare. Contrast.


“It’s ok when we do it”
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:52 - Jun 1 with 595 viewsLeonWasGod

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 00:14 - Jun 1 by chad

That’s what the civil service call managed balance ;)

Be fair they were just smoothing the results by hiding the Brexit party better than Wally. Seems by presenting it unfairly makes their results more accurate, how did that go for them in 2016?

Didn’t want too many people voting for the Brexit Party, so used the same method that makes the majority just agree to cookies on the first screen.

Perhaps hoping for a self fulfilling prophecy.

Speaking of which anyone taking a private prosecution against the gov of BOE for his wilfully reckless false predictions of doom in 2016?


Yeah, it’s not as if it needed £50bn of QE to ease the shock, hit household budgets due to the crash in the value of the pound, saw economic growth compromised by about a half, saw financial organisations move staff and about a £TRILLION of assets out of London to the EU, compounded pressures facing many industries forcing them to postpone investment decions and announce closures, created a rift a mile wide in politics and the communities, etc.

Cameron & BoE can be criticised for highlighting the worse case predictions, for sure. They lacked nuance in reporting the whole picture of forecasts. But broadly it’s been a fecking disaster so far and is looking like it will continue to be. Most forecasts got it pretty right.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:08 - Jun 1 with 586 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 10:45 - Jun 1 by LeonWasGod

It's not common sense at all. It's being conditioned to demonise foreigners and blame all our problems on them. People from 'other white, christian European countries' aren't even the largest group of immigrants, let alone responsible for all our population growth.

Common sense would be looking at the REAL reasons behind NHS waiting times, not being able to get quick doctor appointments, emergency service respone times. For that you're best listening to the people who work in those roles, not Nigel Farage and the politically motivated press.


You seem to have missed the part where he said his sister has a specialist role in the NHS. Or is it a case of only listen to those who agree with you?
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