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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK 23:28 - Nov 10 with 875700 viewspikeypaul



And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:11 - Jul 1 with 505 viewsbluey_the_blue

Bercow in a rare display of being impartial and showing common sense has slapped Grieve and Beckett down; their amendment to block government spending will not be called.

Grieve is toast.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:12 - Jul 1 with 505 viewsHighjack

Wewantwibblesslovakia are in the weareundemocraticEU.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:13 - Jul 1 with 498 viewsbluey_the_blue

EU can't agree who their next leaders will be.
Eastern European nations have kicked off to block the Merkel annointed candidate...
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:49 - Jul 1 with 475 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:09 - Jul 1 by bluey_the_blue

Not really, plenty still to go on.

Favoured nation is one thing... ok, we have a strong export fector, say exporting wibbles. We agree trade deal with Wewantwibbleslovakia. They have favoured nation clause with EU, ok, our deal says 2% tariffs so Wewantwibbleslovakia look at EU deal and adjust for parity / EU have lower tariff.

EU however has an incredibly low export levels of wibbles. We are the world leaders when it comes to wibbles.

So, how would that not be a better deal for us even if the tariff levels are higher for us? EU, lower tariff rate with fvck all exports, we have slightly higher rates with far, far more exports...

And yes, that has been grossly oversimplified...


Because we would still be the world’s leading exporter of wibbles within the EU but would have lower tariffs if we’d remained so would sell even more.

Which is why it’s not a better deal for us having left.

The issue with your arguments bluey (and it’s not only you) is that they are not thought through and, therefore, can appear stupid.

It’s not that it’s grossly simplified, it’s that it’s grossly Bollox.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:50 - Jul 1 with 473 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:13 - Jul 1 by bluey_the_blue

EU can't agree who their next leaders will be.
Eastern European nations have kicked off to block the Merkel annointed candidate...


Well neither can we unless you’ve not noticed.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:55 - Jul 1 with 463 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:49 - Jul 1 by londonlisa2001

Because we would still be the world’s leading exporter of wibbles within the EU but would have lower tariffs if we’d remained so would sell even more.

Which is why it’s not a better deal for us having left.

The issue with your arguments bluey (and it’s not only you) is that they are not thought through and, therefore, can appear stupid.

It’s not that it’s grossly simplified, it’s that it’s grossly Bollox.


I'll private message you in a sec.

I was thinking more along the lines of say EU deal is 5% tariff on wibbles. We negotiate 2.5% - favoured nation means EU deal matches that, so it would be at 2.5% because of Brexit and our deal whereas remaining would have kept it at 5%.

If you're saying favoured nation instead is implemented as "EU has 5% tariffs, as favoured nation, it can never be lower than that and EU deal won't change", then sure.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:57 - Jul 1 with 461 viewsHighjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:55 - Jul 1 by bluey_the_blue

I'll private message you in a sec.

I was thinking more along the lines of say EU deal is 5% tariff on wibbles. We negotiate 2.5% - favoured nation means EU deal matches that, so it would be at 2.5% because of Brexit and our deal whereas remaining would have kept it at 5%.

If you're saying favoured nation instead is implemented as "EU has 5% tariffs, as favoured nation, it can never be lower than that and EU deal won't change", then sure.


What if the Americans try to flood the country with chlorinated wibbles?

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:59 - Jul 1 with 459 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:55 - Jul 1 by bluey_the_blue

I'll private message you in a sec.

I was thinking more along the lines of say EU deal is 5% tariff on wibbles. We negotiate 2.5% - favoured nation means EU deal matches that, so it would be at 2.5% because of Brexit and our deal whereas remaining would have kept it at 5%.

If you're saying favoured nation instead is implemented as "EU has 5% tariffs, as favoured nation, it can never be lower than that and EU deal won't change", then sure.


It doesn’t work like that.

Plus, if the EU signs a deal with wewantwibbles and the world’s leading exporter of wewantwibbles is part of the EU, they’d be sure to include it in the deal.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:04 - Jul 1 with 449 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:59 - Jul 1 by londonlisa2001

It doesn’t work like that.

Plus, if the EU signs a deal with wewantwibbles and the world’s leading exporter of wewantwibbles is part of the EU, they’d be sure to include it in the deal.
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I wasn't sure if it did, there are several ways it could go. It does seem counter-intuitive though, binding a nation into a higher tariff rather than sliding down.

It would depend upon the negotiations by EU. Some other EU nations may not be happy about one of it's members benefiting from it's fine production of wbbles, especially if the benefit to that nation is more than others members get from rest of deal.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:09 - Jul 1 with 445 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:04 - Jul 1 by bluey_the_blue

I wasn't sure if it did, there are several ways it could go. It does seem counter-intuitive though, binding a nation into a higher tariff rather than sliding down.

It would depend upon the negotiations by EU. Some other EU nations may not be happy about one of it's members benefiting from it's fine production of wbbles, especially if the benefit to that nation is more than others members get from rest of deal.


Why? It doesn’t matter to them as they don’t produce wibbles. They’d rather see the exports done within the bloc as that benefits all, than outside the bloc which doesn’t.

The EU is a club. All members benefit, but in different ways, depending on their specialisms. Germany has cars, we have financial services etc etc. It’s like the UK itself, with different countries or regions doing different things but all benefitting from growth, tax collection, shared services etc. The difference between the EU and the UK is that the EU insists on all countries benefitting from the whole to improve all of them. The UK doesn’t do that, which is why you have London being so much wealthier than anywhere else.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:11 - Jul 1 with 441 viewsHighjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:09 - Jul 1 by londonlisa2001

Why? It doesn’t matter to them as they don’t produce wibbles. They’d rather see the exports done within the bloc as that benefits all, than outside the bloc which doesn’t.

The EU is a club. All members benefit, but in different ways, depending on their specialisms. Germany has cars, we have financial services etc etc. It’s like the UK itself, with different countries or regions doing different things but all benefitting from growth, tax collection, shared services etc. The difference between the EU and the UK is that the EU insists on all countries benefitting from the whole to improve all of them. The UK doesn’t do that, which is why you have London being so much wealthier than anywhere else.


Well that’s not true, the south and east of Europe is considerably less well off than the north and west.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:18 - Jul 1 with 421 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:11 - Jul 1 by Highjack

Well that’s not true, the south and east of Europe is considerably less well off than the north and west.


Which is why there is cross subsidisation to harmonise. The richer countries contribute and the poorer countries receive,

Over time, it will even out. It’s not instant.

I assumed, obviously incorrectly, that people were sensible enough to grasp that. I forgot that some are slow.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:45 - Jul 1 with 394 viewsHighjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:18 - Jul 1 by londonlisa2001

Which is why there is cross subsidisation to harmonise. The richer countries contribute and the poorer countries receive,

Over time, it will even out. It’s not instant.

I assumed, obviously incorrectly, that people were sensible enough to grasp that. I forgot that some are slow.


All the Greeks have received is a giant turd right on their heads.

Bet they can’t wait for it all to even out.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:03 - Jul 1 with 371 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:50 - Jul 1 by londonlisa2001

Well neither can we unless you’ve not noticed.


Ah but EU is meant to be more stable than we are.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:23 - Jul 1 with 352 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:11 - Jul 1 by bluey_the_blue

Bercow in a rare display of being impartial and showing common sense has slapped Grieve and Beckett down; their amendment to block government spending will not be called.

Grieve is toast.


Hardly “slapped them down”. He just didn’t call the amendment. I told you last week it wouldn’t get anywhere.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:24 - Jul 1 with 350 viewsexiledclaseboy

Anyone else wish Bluey was in charge of UK trade negotiations?

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:49 - Jul 1 with 331 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:24 - Jul 1 by exiledclaseboy

Anyone else wish Bluey was in charge of UK trade negotiations?


It’s be like Ivanka Trump at the G20...

Which is the funniest clip I’ve seen in a while btw.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:51 - Jul 1 with 329 viewsJoe_bradshaw

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:24 - Jul 1 by exiledclaseboy

Anyone else wish Bluey was in charge of UK trade negotiations?


Bluey or Boris?

To be honest it's a tough call...

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:09 - Jul 1 with 315 viewsWarwickHunt

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:45 - Jul 1 by Highjack

All the Greeks have received is a giant turd right on their heads.

Bet they can’t wait for it all to even out.


It wouldn’t take long in that heat.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:12 - Jul 1 with 307 viewsLeonWasGod

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:57 - Jul 1 by Highjack

What if the Americans try to flood the country with chlorinated wibbles?


Pork.

Pigs are the new chlorinated chicken now (you’re sooo 2018 darling). US pig industry is lobbying hard to get us to stop testing for Trichinae parasitic worm, as they hope to send us their infested offcuts once we’re begging for food.

‘Vote Brexit for the sh*ts, abdominal cramps and spew’ has such a catchy ring to it!

https://www.clevelandclinic.org/healthinfo/ShowImage.ashx?PIC=4362
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:23 - Jul 1 with 291 viewssherpajacob

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:13 - Jul 1 by bluey_the_blue

EU can't agree who their next leaders will be.
Eastern European nations have kicked off to block the Merkel annointed candidate...


Wait, are you saying that National governments have a role in selecting the EU leaders?

Can you let the leave voters know, I believe they've been labouring under a considerable misapprehension. Many may have voted differently if they knew the truth.

Thanks Bluey for pointing it out.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:59 - Jul 1 with 263 viewslonglostjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:23 - Jul 1 by sherpajacob

Wait, are you saying that National governments have a role in selecting the EU leaders?

Can you let the leave voters know, I believe they've been labouring under a considerable misapprehension. Many may have voted differently if they knew the truth.

Thanks Bluey for pointing it out.


Checkmate

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:07 - Jul 1 with 244 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:23 - Jul 1 by sherpajacob

Wait, are you saying that National governments have a role in selecting the EU leaders?

Can you let the leave voters know, I believe they've been labouring under a considerable misapprehension. Many may have voted differently if they knew the truth.

Thanks Bluey for pointing it out.


Well, there's that.

Or you could view it that the electorate don't really get any say in it whatsoever, after all, if the Eastern European nations had behaved as expected it would have been a done deal, rubberstamping the person Merkel wanted.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:10 - Jul 1 with 241 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:07 - Jul 1 by bluey_the_blue

Well, there's that.

Or you could view it that the electorate don't really get any say in it whatsoever, after all, if the Eastern European nations had behaved as expected it would have been a done deal, rubberstamping the person Merkel wanted.


But they didn’t so it’s not. Well argued.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:38 - Jul 1 with 209 viewsHighjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:12 - Jul 1 by LeonWasGod

Pork.

Pigs are the new chlorinated chicken now (you’re sooo 2018 darling). US pig industry is lobbying hard to get us to stop testing for Trichinae parasitic worm, as they hope to send us their infested offcuts once we’re begging for food.

‘Vote Brexit for the sh*ts, abdominal cramps and spew’ has such a catchy ring to it!

https://www.clevelandclinic.org/healthinfo/ShowImage.ashx?PIC=4362
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Cook your food properly and it’s not an issue. The vast majority of these pathogens die at an incredibly low heat.

Project fear.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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