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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK 23:28 - Nov 10 with 946135 viewspikeypaul



And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:36 - Aug 1 with 340 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:26 - Aug 1 by Batterseajack

F**k me, you trawled through my posts back to January to prove toothless point. There is nothing inaccurate with the context of those tweets. As much as you wish there was, there is no equivalence with the #FDPE lot as you call them and the likes of Darren from Plymouth who literally spout bollox by playing up to fear, anger, division and deliberate misunderstanding of the truth.


Takes about 30 seconds mate which is not a lot when someone is calling you a liar. There’s every equivalence, they are all obsessed oddballs. I don’t follow or get into conversation with them though but I highly suspect you do.

You ignored the bit about the swans blog account on Twitter. Am I right to assume it’s you then?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:38 - Aug 1 with 336 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 10:50 - Aug 1 by waynekerr55

Hounslow - a well - off white ward???
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Chiswick, East Hounslow. Average house price £1.5m.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:46 - Aug 1 with 321 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 09:37 - Aug 1 by longlostjack

That’s the spirit Bluey! Govt doesn’t have enough storage capacity for all the unsold lamb. Free Doner Kebabs for everyone!


EXACTLY!

And... more Lamb Doners available = more need for salad, sauces leading to increased internal domestic sales.

And... more Doners eaten = more salad needed = healthier Britain.

Let ECB and Lisa pick holes in THAT logic.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:46 - Aug 1 with 321 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:38 - Aug 1 by Jango

Chiswick, East Hounslow. Average house price £1.5m.


The biggest % votes for remain in London were from Hackney, Haringey and Lambeth.

All of which have very mixed, multicultural populations with high levels of immigration.

The argument you’re trying to make that it was the affluent white areas of London voting remain is false.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:48 - Aug 1 with 318 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:21 - Aug 1 by waynekerr55

Plenty of Halal and Kosher meat to go around! Mazel Tov!


You got it!

It just requires a little non-linear thinking and the positives can be seen.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:51 - Aug 1 with 315 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:46 - Aug 1 by bluey_the_blue

EXACTLY!

And... more Lamb Doners available = more need for salad, sauces leading to increased internal domestic sales.

And... more Doners eaten = more salad needed = healthier Britain.

Let ECB and Lisa pick holes in THAT logic.


I’m glad that the situation has become so farcical even you can see it Bluey. A great step forward. Or is it back. Who knows.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:56 - Aug 1 with 308 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:51 - Aug 1 by londonlisa2001

I’m glad that the situation has become so farcical even you can see it Bluey. A great step forward. Or is it back. Who knows.


Your flippant response indicates that either you can't pick holes in the logic or are a bloody vegan...

Reality is, we're firmly in the unknown. All bets and predictions are off at the moment.

The news from Ireland with regards to no deal could well trigger cracks within EU over no deal handling. The "hard border" threat was politicised by Varadkar and could well be coming back to haunt him, despite both sides saying no such border would occur under no deal.

The effects of no deal look like they'll hit Ireland far worse than Britain; given no love within EU for Ireland's low corporation tax, it would be interesting to see what assistance EU give them should no deal occur.

Irexit could be next...
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:00 - Aug 1 with 298 viewsWarwickHunt

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:56 - Aug 1 by bluey_the_blue

Your flippant response indicates that either you can't pick holes in the logic or are a bloody vegan...

Reality is, we're firmly in the unknown. All bets and predictions are off at the moment.

The news from Ireland with regards to no deal could well trigger cracks within EU over no deal handling. The "hard border" threat was politicised by Varadkar and could well be coming back to haunt him, despite both sides saying no such border would occur under no deal.

The effects of no deal look like they'll hit Ireland far worse than Britain; given no love within EU for Ireland's low corporation tax, it would be interesting to see what assistance EU give them should no deal occur.

Irexit could be next...


Congrats, Bluey - that’s taken your delusion to new heights.

Jango, old son, you appear to have a rival...
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:04 - Aug 1 with 293 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:00 - Aug 1 by WarwickHunt

Congrats, Bluey - that’s taken your delusion to new heights.

Jango, old son, you appear to have a rival...


How so, Warwick?

Irish reports are that no deal will be devastating to Ireland. Ireland's economy has benefitted vastly by increased investment due to low corporation tax, substantially lower than most EU nations - are you claiming that hasn't pissed people off?

The reality is May's negotiating "tactics" were piss poor, no incentive to deal with key issues. This hardline approach should have been taken 3 years; standard negotiating tactics. Compromise over time but set out your demands early.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:09 - Aug 1 with 289 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:56 - Aug 1 by bluey_the_blue

Your flippant response indicates that either you can't pick holes in the logic or are a bloody vegan...

Reality is, we're firmly in the unknown. All bets and predictions are off at the moment.

The news from Ireland with regards to no deal could well trigger cracks within EU over no deal handling. The "hard border" threat was politicised by Varadkar and could well be coming back to haunt him, despite both sides saying no such border would occur under no deal.

The effects of no deal look like they'll hit Ireland far worse than Britain; given no love within EU for Ireland's low corporation tax, it would be interesting to see what assistance EU give them should no deal occur.

Irexit could be next...


Bluey, I genuinely have no idea what you’re smoking.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:17 - Aug 1 with 281 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:09 - Aug 1 by londonlisa2001

Bluey, I genuinely have no idea what you’re smoking.


Seen the Central Bank of Ireland warnings of doom and gloom, Lisa? Make Carney's predictions look positively wonderful. They predict severe damage to Ireland in the event of a no deal Brexit.

So is it in Ireland's best interest for Varadkar to waffle about "hard borders" ( when both sides accept no such thing ), be dogmatic or is it in Ireland's best interests for Varadkar to work for a deal acceptable for both sides?

If he persists with the former, he'll be electoral toast. Even more so if he expects EU to magically bail them out without severe conditions applied.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:19 - Aug 1 with 280 viewsKilkennyjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:04 - Aug 1 by bluey_the_blue

How so, Warwick?

Irish reports are that no deal will be devastating to Ireland. Ireland's economy has benefitted vastly by increased investment due to low corporation tax, substantially lower than most EU nations - are you claiming that hasn't pissed people off?

The reality is May's negotiating "tactics" were piss poor, no incentive to deal with key issues. This hardline approach should have been taken 3 years; standard negotiating tactics. Compromise over time but set out your demands early.


Bollox.

The UK accounted for just 12% of total exports of goods in Ireland in 2017 and 24% of total imports of goods. In services, it accounted for 6% of total exports and 9.3% of total imports in 2017.

The Tory party has created this mess, not Ireland, not the EU, and not Remain voters.
Own your own shite.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:21 - Aug 1 with 275 viewswaynekerr55

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:38 - Aug 1 by Jango

Chiswick, East Hounslow. Average house price £1.5m.


That's got f*ck all to do with their skin colour Jango. Have you been to Hounslow since 2001?

How many of you know what DP stands for?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:30 - Aug 1 with 270 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:19 - Aug 1 by Kilkennyjack

Bollox.

The UK accounted for just 12% of total exports of goods in Ireland in 2017 and 24% of total imports of goods. In services, it accounted for 6% of total exports and 9.3% of total imports in 2017.

The Tory party has created this mess, not Ireland, not the EU, and not Remain voters.
Own your own shite.


More to life that just those, skippy.

Hope for your sake Varadkars stance doesn't cost you.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:42 - Aug 1 with 262 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:46 - Aug 1 by londonlisa2001

The biggest % votes for remain in London were from Hackney, Haringey and Lambeth.

All of which have very mixed, multicultural populations with high levels of immigration.

The argument you’re trying to make that it was the affluent white areas of London voting remain is false.


No my argument was there’s large parts of London that are very wealthy and totally unaffected by immigration, more than any other city, that voted heavily for remain. London also has by far the highest number of EU migrant uk citizens and immigrants full stop living there. Your point was basically saying Londoners are more accepting than people from Swansea. A 40% vote to leave considering those facts suggests otherwise. Suggesting leave voters are brainwashed by bannon and co when it comes to immigration is pure arrogance.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:43 - Aug 1 with 259 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:17 - Aug 1 by bluey_the_blue

Seen the Central Bank of Ireland warnings of doom and gloom, Lisa? Make Carney's predictions look positively wonderful. They predict severe damage to Ireland in the event of a no deal Brexit.

So is it in Ireland's best interest for Varadkar to waffle about "hard borders" ( when both sides accept no such thing ), be dogmatic or is it in Ireland's best interests for Varadkar to work for a deal acceptable for both sides?

If he persists with the former, he'll be electoral toast. Even more so if he expects EU to magically bail them out without severe conditions applied.


This is what I don’t get.

The Irish say they’ll be adversely affected by a hard Brexit (which of course they will). You jump all over it to say it shows the Brexiteers are right. The UK say we’ll be adversely affected by a no deal (and it’s far worse than Ireland btw) and you say that’s nonsense.

In this situation, Ireland’s border is the EU border. The deal acceptable to both sides will be agreed between UK and the EU. It has been. Let’s look at what’s actually happened.

Since the vote, everyone has said that there is an issue with the border. Namely, we can’t have one as that breaks the Belfast agreement. The way of avoiding an issue with the border is for the UK to be part of the customs union. May decided that was a red line for her and we couldn’t be. So the EU said fine, keep NI in the customs union and have the border with GB rather than UK. We couldn’t do that as the DUP, who May needed for votes, wouldn’t accept it.

So the EU said - tell us what you want to do, come up with a solution for the problem you’ve caused. And we couldn’t. No solution exists. It may do in the future but it doesn’t now.

So we said (which people seem to be forgetting - it was our suggestion) let’s kick the can down the road until we find a solution through technology or whatever, and in the meantime, let’s stay in the customs union on a temporary basis. The EU said that’s fine - as long as there is a customs union it’s not an issue, but if there ceases to be one, you’ll understand that we, in the EU need to protect our border, in the same way you want to.

And then, we start deciding that this agreement, now called the backstop, is no longer anything to do with us and is the fault of the EU. Because we have decided that the reputation we most want for our country is that of spoilt, petulant little sh*ts who can’t be trusted.

If there is a hard brexit, there will have to be a border. Wherever you put it. Otherwise our famed ‘taking control of our borders’ doesn’t hold much weight does it? The EU need a border. Otherwise the cheapo sh*t we will import from that healthiest of countries, the US, will find its way into the EU. And they care about stuff like GMO, and chlorinated chicken, and low welfare beef.

We seemingly don’t. Because I guess when you’re an unhealthy little turd like Mark Francois how much worse can it get, and if you’re wealthy like Johnson, you just pay for individually sourced, organic produce to feed to your children (number unknown) and leave it to the poor people to feed their children crap.

So there will be a border. Somewhere.

Oh, and that means Congress will block a trade deal with us. As they’ve confirmed.

So do me a favour will you, because I’m bored beyond belief with this now. Get informed about the facts. Stop believing propaganda put out the the Brexiteers (who are at least, thankfully, now starting to be fact checked by the BBC - Raab, you lying little sh*t), stop rewriting history, and own your decision.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:45 - Aug 1 with 258 viewsBatterseajack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:30 - Aug 1 by bluey_the_blue

More to life that just those, skippy.

Hope for your sake Varadkars stance doesn't cost you.


What can Varadkar do any differently to what he's saying now? Just deny reality exists?

How can we not have a border in northern Ireland if we're out of the SM and CU?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:52 - Aug 1 with 248 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:42 - Aug 1 by Jango

No my argument was there’s large parts of London that are very wealthy and totally unaffected by immigration, more than any other city, that voted heavily for remain. London also has by far the highest number of EU migrant uk citizens and immigrants full stop living there. Your point was basically saying Londoners are more accepting than people from Swansea. A 40% vote to leave considering those facts suggests otherwise. Suggesting leave voters are brainwashed by bannon and co when it comes to immigration is pure arrogance.


Inner London, the areas most affected by immigration, voted overwhelmingly remain (around 70%). Some outer areas (Bexley, Dagenham etc) voted leave which brings the ‘whole of London’ vote down.

The argument, which you have just repeated, doesn’t hold true when you look at the three areas voting most heavily to remain. They are not wealthy and totally unaffected by immigration, in fact, the reverse is true. Not sure what your point is re EU migrants - they weren’t allowed to vote...
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:56 - Aug 1 with 245 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:43 - Aug 1 by londonlisa2001

This is what I don’t get.

The Irish say they’ll be adversely affected by a hard Brexit (which of course they will). You jump all over it to say it shows the Brexiteers are right. The UK say we’ll be adversely affected by a no deal (and it’s far worse than Ireland btw) and you say that’s nonsense.

In this situation, Ireland’s border is the EU border. The deal acceptable to both sides will be agreed between UK and the EU. It has been. Let’s look at what’s actually happened.

Since the vote, everyone has said that there is an issue with the border. Namely, we can’t have one as that breaks the Belfast agreement. The way of avoiding an issue with the border is for the UK to be part of the customs union. May decided that was a red line for her and we couldn’t be. So the EU said fine, keep NI in the customs union and have the border with GB rather than UK. We couldn’t do that as the DUP, who May needed for votes, wouldn’t accept it.

So the EU said - tell us what you want to do, come up with a solution for the problem you’ve caused. And we couldn’t. No solution exists. It may do in the future but it doesn’t now.

So we said (which people seem to be forgetting - it was our suggestion) let’s kick the can down the road until we find a solution through technology or whatever, and in the meantime, let’s stay in the customs union on a temporary basis. The EU said that’s fine - as long as there is a customs union it’s not an issue, but if there ceases to be one, you’ll understand that we, in the EU need to protect our border, in the same way you want to.

And then, we start deciding that this agreement, now called the backstop, is no longer anything to do with us and is the fault of the EU. Because we have decided that the reputation we most want for our country is that of spoilt, petulant little sh*ts who can’t be trusted.

If there is a hard brexit, there will have to be a border. Wherever you put it. Otherwise our famed ‘taking control of our borders’ doesn’t hold much weight does it? The EU need a border. Otherwise the cheapo sh*t we will import from that healthiest of countries, the US, will find its way into the EU. And they care about stuff like GMO, and chlorinated chicken, and low welfare beef.

We seemingly don’t. Because I guess when you’re an unhealthy little turd like Mark Francois how much worse can it get, and if you’re wealthy like Johnson, you just pay for individually sourced, organic produce to feed to your children (number unknown) and leave it to the poor people to feed their children crap.

So there will be a border. Somewhere.

Oh, and that means Congress will block a trade deal with us. As they’ve confirmed.

So do me a favour will you, because I’m bored beyond belief with this now. Get informed about the facts. Stop believing propaganda put out the the Brexiteers (who are at least, thankfully, now starting to be fact checked by the BBC - Raab, you lying little sh*t), stop rewriting history, and own your decision.


Lisa, I'm pointing out that Varadkar's hardline stance is detrimental to Irish interests. Blame Tories sure but I don't see why he or EU immune from any criticism.

There already is a border. The issue is if a hard border requiring infrastructure on the border ( "guard posts" as some emotively say) is required. It isn't - some checks already happen away from the border. I find the "oh the tech isn'[t there" argument to be spurious at best. Can land a man on the moon but can't effectively organise checks despite the evidence of port managers who after all would know about these things.

Any GFA infringement will be by those lovable IRA muppets just spoiling for a fight. US Congress? They give not one shit about things - block deal to spite trump, let's not forget US funding of those little IRA scalliwags.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:56 - Aug 1 with 245 viewsLeonWasGod

Fark me, Pikey was Boris all along:

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:03 - Aug 1 with 240 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:56 - Aug 1 by bluey_the_blue

Lisa, I'm pointing out that Varadkar's hardline stance is detrimental to Irish interests. Blame Tories sure but I don't see why he or EU immune from any criticism.

There already is a border. The issue is if a hard border requiring infrastructure on the border ( "guard posts" as some emotively say) is required. It isn't - some checks already happen away from the border. I find the "oh the tech isn'[t there" argument to be spurious at best. Can land a man on the moon but can't effectively organise checks despite the evidence of port managers who after all would know about these things.

Any GFA infringement will be by those lovable IRA muppets just spoiling for a fight. US Congress? They give not one shit about things - block deal to spite trump, let's not forget US funding of those little IRA scalliwags.


Oh sod off bluey. We couldn’t even manage the tech that would have stopped children viewing porn without a delay of over a year.

Your hardline stance is detrimental to British interests as well.

You don’t understand the issue. Once stuff is in the EU, it can move freely. If we push stuff into ireland, it’s entered the EU. The EU can’t allow that. Full stop. The EU is immune from criticism because they agreed what we asked for, and now we’re changing our minds. It is our fault.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:13 - Aug 1 with 224 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:03 - Aug 1 by londonlisa2001

Oh sod off bluey. We couldn’t even manage the tech that would have stopped children viewing porn without a delay of over a year.

Your hardline stance is detrimental to British interests as well.

You don’t understand the issue. Once stuff is in the EU, it can move freely. If we push stuff into ireland, it’s entered the EU. The EU can’t allow that. Full stop. The EU is immune from criticism because they agreed what we asked for, and now we’re changing our minds. It is our fault.


The tech for "stopping kids viewing porn" was bloody ridiculous as a concept in the first instance. Christ, enough watch the soft-soft porn that is Love Island after all.

I'm well aware of the issue of free movement of goods. There's already a border between EU / non-EU after all - any goods from say Nigeria into Ireland have to be checked to prevent the issue you rightly state. What Varadkar has claimed is that hard infrastructure would be needed on the border - leading to the emotive view of Berlin Wall, posts etc... both EU and UK have said that would not happen.

So where precisely is the issue? Both parties have said no physical infrastructure creating physical border - the only issue is where the check take place, some of which already take place away from the border, I believe animals do?

It's something that's been vastly overblown imo - EU believing GFA mean we could enter the backstop trap, Varadkar hoping it leads to unified Ireland.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:34 - Aug 1 with 208 viewsWarwickHunt

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:09 - Aug 1 by londonlisa2001

Bluey, I genuinely have no idea what you’re smoking.


Weapons-grade crack, obviously.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:37 - Aug 1 with 206 viewsHighjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:03 - Aug 1 by londonlisa2001

Oh sod off bluey. We couldn’t even manage the tech that would have stopped children viewing porn without a delay of over a year.

Your hardline stance is detrimental to British interests as well.

You don’t understand the issue. Once stuff is in the EU, it can move freely. If we push stuff into ireland, it’s entered the EU. The EU can’t allow that. Full stop. The EU is immune from criticism because they agreed what we asked for, and now we’re changing our minds. It is our fault.


We’ve had the technology to stop children watching porn for ages. It’s known in the industry as parenting.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:38 - Aug 1 with 204 viewsBatterseajack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:13 - Aug 1 by bluey_the_blue

The tech for "stopping kids viewing porn" was bloody ridiculous as a concept in the first instance. Christ, enough watch the soft-soft porn that is Love Island after all.

I'm well aware of the issue of free movement of goods. There's already a border between EU / non-EU after all - any goods from say Nigeria into Ireland have to be checked to prevent the issue you rightly state. What Varadkar has claimed is that hard infrastructure would be needed on the border - leading to the emotive view of Berlin Wall, posts etc... both EU and UK have said that would not happen.

So where precisely is the issue? Both parties have said no physical infrastructure creating physical border - the only issue is where the check take place, some of which already take place away from the border, I believe animals do?

It's something that's been vastly overblown imo - EU believing GFA mean we could enter the backstop trap, Varadkar hoping it leads to unified Ireland.


So an honesty border. Where you cross the border, head straight to border check point situated away from the border, queue for a couple of hours, pay your import duties, then be on your way.

Sounds a great idea that. Can these borders be found in use anywhere else around the world?
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