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OUT WITH A DEAL EATING OUR CAKE AND LOVING IT suck it up remoaners
And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite đđđđđđ
Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.
It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.
The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:32 - Aug 4 by Highjack
Two thirds of MPs would have to vote for an election though. It could result in the farcical situation where the opposition who have been demanding a general election for two years vote against a general election.
Two thirds of MPs wouldnât have to vote for an election. A simple majority is all thatâs required for a confidence motion to pass and if that happens and 14 days elapses without an alternative and viable government being formed an election is automatic.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:28 - Aug 4 by Highjack
It would probably be a clusterf*ck of a challenge to find a new government though. I canât imagine any Tory, no matter how hardcore remain they are voting to put Corbyn and McDonnell in Downing Street.
I agree. If an alternative government was to be formed it wouldnât be led by Corbyn.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:30 - Aug 4 by exiledclaseboy
A backstop with a time limit isnât a backstop.
Agreed. But I think they may find a way to use weasel words which mean nothing much (time limit subject to milestone type stuff) but enough that Johnson will claim victory.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:40 - Aug 4 with 885 views
From the Cabinet Manual (the closest thing weâve got to a written constitution and the civil service bible):
2.27 While the government retains its responsibility to govern and ministers remain in charge of their departments, governments are expected by convention to observe discretion in initiating any new action of a continuing or long-term character in the period immediately preceding an election, immediately afterwards if the result is unclear, and following the loss of a vote of confidence. In all three circumstances essential business must be allowed to continue.
If the government tries to leave with no deal in the circumstances described there may be riots in the street.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:40 - Aug 4 by exiledclaseboy
From the Cabinet Manual (the closest thing weâve got to a written constitution and the civil service bible):
2.27 While the government retains its responsibility to govern and ministers remain in charge of their departments, governments are expected by convention to observe discretion in initiating any new action of a continuing or long-term character in the period immediately preceding an election, immediately afterwards if the result is unclear, and following the loss of a vote of confidence. In all three circumstances essential business must be allowed to continue.
If the government tries to leave with no deal in the circumstances described there may be riots in the street.
[Post edited 4 Aug 2019 14:41]
Interesting.
Odd that Cummings is so blatantly threatening it then.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:48 - Aug 4 with 875 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:40 - Aug 4 by exiledclaseboy
From the Cabinet Manual (the closest thing weâve got to a written constitution and the civil service bible):
2.27 While the government retains its responsibility to govern and ministers remain in charge of their departments, governments are expected by convention to observe discretion in initiating any new action of a continuing or long-term character in the period immediately preceding an election, immediately afterwards if the result is unclear, and following the loss of a vote of confidence. In all three circumstances essential business must be allowed to continue.
If the government tries to leave with no deal in the circumstances described there may be riots in the street.
[Post edited 4 Aug 2019 14:41]
Cummings whole ethos is to burn that bible with immediate effect. He HATES you. And he hasnât even met you. Heâd fit in well on here.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:36 - Aug 4 by exiledclaseboy
Two thirds of MPs wouldnât have to vote for an election. A simple majority is all thatâs required for a confidence motion to pass and if that happens and 14 days elapses without an alternative and viable government being formed an election is automatic.
I meant if Boris calls one first.
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:32 - Aug 4 by Highjack
Two thirds of MPs would have to vote for an election though. It could result in the farcical situation where the opposition who have been demanding a general election for two years vote against a general election.
Which kind of shows up "Magic Grandpa" for what he is. "I want an election" but not before his beloved Brexit. The useless cĂčnt.
Actually no Iâm wrong. Itâs not without merit to suggest that labour would vote against an early election if there was a suggestion that the timing is being manipulated to facilitate a no deal Brexit. I wouldnât blame them either. Itâs what they should do.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:22 - Aug 4 by exiledclaseboy
In that case itâs just a bit mental.
I agree it would be mental but we donât live in conventional times. It would be an alternative to proroguing if he was that determined as parliament would be dissolved pending the GE. Propose an election, labour have been demanding an election for years, the libs also constantly bang on about going back to the people. It would be a bad look for any opposition party to reject an election. It would force Corbyn to actually make a decision.
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:29 - Aug 4 by Highjack
I agree it would be mental but we donât live in conventional times. It would be an alternative to proroguing if he was that determined as parliament would be dissolved pending the GE. Propose an election, labour have been demanding an election for years, the libs also constantly bang on about going back to the people. It would be a bad look for any opposition party to reject an election. It would force Corbyn to actually make a decision.
I agree (see my post above) but only up to a point. I donât think it would reflect badly on the opposition parties to refuse to sanction an election if the timing is being manipulated to facilitate a no deal exit that parliament doesnât support. In those circumstances itâs exactly what they should do.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:18 - Aug 4 by exiledclaseboy
It doesnât do anything of the sort because if youâd read on youâll have seen that Highjack was wrong.
Sorry poorly typed - but it does appear that Mr Kind and Gentle doesn't want a GE until after Brexit.
In my opinion he's a piece of shĂŹt. A "jobs first Brexit" has no impact on his merry band of Champagne Marxists and the great unwashed, but will fĂșck the everyday man and woman over. I don't class Ebo and e Paul in either of these categories BTW
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:35 - Aug 4 by waynekerr55
Sorry poorly typed - but it does appear that Mr Kind and Gentle doesn't want a GE until after Brexit.
In my opinion he's a piece of shĂŹt. A "jobs first Brexit" has no impact on his merry band of Champagne Marxists and the great unwashed, but will fĂșck the everyday man and woman over. I don't class Ebo and e Paul in either of these categories BTW
You missed out âdisaster capitalistsâ and âtrust fund socialistsâ (whatever that is) otherwise youâd have had the full house of Wayne cliche bollocks bingo.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:37 - Aug 4 by exiledclaseboy
You missed out âdisaster capitalistsâ and âtrust fund socialistsâ (whatever that is) otherwise youâd have had the full house of Wayne cliche bollocks bingo.
So you don't think that Brexit is fuelled by disaster capitalists and the new far left are rich 'socialists'? .
Edit - back on track, how does anyone stop a no deal Brexit now?
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:35 - Aug 4 by waynekerr55
Sorry poorly typed - but it does appear that Mr Kind and Gentle doesn't want a GE until after Brexit.
In my opinion he's a piece of shĂŹt. A "jobs first Brexit" has no impact on his merry band of Champagne Marxists and the great unwashed, but will fĂșck the everyday man and woman over. I don't class Ebo and e Paul in either of these categories BTW
Guardian agree with you.
"This view is based on an analysis from the House of Commons library saying that, because of the timetable for an election following a vote of no confidence under the Fixed-terms Parliament Act (FTPA), the vote would have to be on Tuesday 3 September for an election definitely to take place before 31 October.
For a debate to take place on 3 September, the first day back after the summer recess, Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour leader, would have had to table a no-confidence motion before recess. But that did not happen."
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:21 - Aug 4 with 731 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:18 - Aug 4 by bluey_the_blue
Guardian agree with you.
"This view is based on an analysis from the House of Commons library saying that, because of the timetable for an election following a vote of no confidence under the Fixed-terms Parliament Act (FTPA), the vote would have to be on Tuesday 3 September for an election definitely to take place before 31 October.
For a debate to take place on 3 September, the first day back after the summer recess, Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour leader, would have had to table a no-confidence motion before recess. But that did not happen."
There are other ways round it though...
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:30 - Aug 4 with 722 views