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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK 23:28 - Nov 10 with 1144653 viewspikeypaul



And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:36 - Aug 4 with 490 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:32 - Aug 4 by Highjack

Two thirds of MPs would have to vote for an election though. It could result in the farcical situation where the opposition who have been demanding a general election for two years vote against a general election.


Two thirds of MPs wouldn’t have to vote for an election. A simple majority is all that’s required for a confidence motion to pass and if that happens and 14 days elapses without an alternative and viable government being formed an election is automatic.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:37 - Aug 4 with 490 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:28 - Aug 4 by Highjack

It would probably be a clusterf*ck of a challenge to find a new government though. I can’t imagine any Tory, no matter how hardcore remain they are voting to put Corbyn and McDonnell in Downing Street.


I agree. If an alternative government was to be formed it wouldn’t be led by Corbyn.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:39 - Aug 4 with 486 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:30 - Aug 4 by exiledclaseboy

A backstop with a time limit isn’t a backstop.


Agreed. But I think they may find a way to use weasel words which mean nothing much (time limit subject to milestone type stuff) but enough that Johnson will claim victory.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:40 - Aug 4 with 482 viewsexiledclaseboy

From the Cabinet Manual (the closest thing we’ve got to a written constitution and the civil service bible):


2.27 While the government retains its responsibility to govern and ministers remain in charge of their departments, governments are expected by convention to observe discretion in initiating any new action of a continuing or long-term character in the period immediately preceding an election, immediately afterwards if the result is unclear, and following the loss of a vote of confidence. In all three circumstances essential business must be allowed to continue.

If the government tries to leave with no deal in the circumstances described there may be riots in the street.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:47 - Aug 4 with 475 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:40 - Aug 4 by exiledclaseboy

From the Cabinet Manual (the closest thing we’ve got to a written constitution and the civil service bible):


2.27 While the government retains its responsibility to govern and ministers remain in charge of their departments, governments are expected by convention to observe discretion in initiating any new action of a continuing or long-term character in the period immediately preceding an election, immediately afterwards if the result is unclear, and following the loss of a vote of confidence. In all three circumstances essential business must be allowed to continue.

If the government tries to leave with no deal in the circumstances described there may be riots in the street.
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Interesting.

Odd that Cummings is so blatantly threatening it then.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:48 - Aug 4 with 472 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:47 - Aug 4 by londonlisa2001

Interesting.

Odd that Cummings is so blatantly threatening it then.


He probably doesn’t know the document exists. It’s a fascinating read by the way.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attac

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:48 - Aug 4 with 471 viewsmonmouth

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:40 - Aug 4 by exiledclaseboy

From the Cabinet Manual (the closest thing we’ve got to a written constitution and the civil service bible):


2.27 While the government retains its responsibility to govern and ministers remain in charge of their departments, governments are expected by convention to observe discretion in initiating any new action of a continuing or long-term character in the period immediately preceding an election, immediately afterwards if the result is unclear, and following the loss of a vote of confidence. In all three circumstances essential business must be allowed to continue.

If the government tries to leave with no deal in the circumstances described there may be riots in the street.
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Cummings whole ethos is to burn that bible with immediate effect. He HATES you. And he hasn’t even met you. He’d fit in well on here.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:50 - Aug 4 with 470 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:48 - Aug 4 by exiledclaseboy

He probably doesn’t know the document exists. It’s a fascinating read by the way.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attac


Fascinating use of the word fascinating...
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:51 - Aug 4 with 467 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:50 - Aug 4 by londonlisa2001

Fascinating use of the word fascinating...


It really is though. Well it is to me anyway.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:09 - Aug 4 with 450 viewsHighjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:36 - Aug 4 by exiledclaseboy

Two thirds of MPs wouldn’t have to vote for an election. A simple majority is all that’s required for a confidence motion to pass and if that happens and 14 days elapses without an alternative and viable government being formed an election is automatic.


I meant if Boris calls one first.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:10 - Aug 4 with 448 viewswaynekerr55

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:32 - Aug 4 by Highjack

Two thirds of MPs would have to vote for an election though. It could result in the farcical situation where the opposition who have been demanding a general election for two years vote against a general election.


Which kind of shows up "Magic Grandpa" for what he is. "I want an election" but not before his beloved Brexit. The useless cùnt.

Jobs first Brexit my arse

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:15 - Aug 4 with 441 viewsunion_jack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:51 - Aug 4 by exiledclaseboy

It really is though. Well it is to me anyway.


Yes, I bet it is😄

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:18 - Aug 4 with 440 viewsexiledclaseboy

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Which kind of shows up "Magic Grandpa" for what he is. "I want an election" but not before his beloved Brexit. The useless cùnt.

Jobs first Brexit my arse


It doesn’t do anything of the sort because if you’d read on you’ll have seen that Highjack was wrong.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:22 - Aug 4 with 432 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:09 - Aug 4 by Highjack

I meant if Boris calls one first.


In that case it’s just a bit mental.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:25 - Aug 4 with 427 viewsexiledclaseboy

Actually no I’m wrong. It’s not without merit to suggest that labour would vote against an early election if there was a suggestion that the timing is being manipulated to facilitate a no deal Brexit. I wouldn’t blame them either. It’s what they should do.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:29 - Aug 4 with 424 viewsHighjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:22 - Aug 4 by exiledclaseboy

In that case it’s just a bit mental.


I agree it would be mental but we don’t live in conventional times. It would be an alternative to proroguing if he was that determined as parliament would be dissolved pending the GE. Propose an election, labour have been demanding an election for years, the libs also constantly bang on about going back to the people. It would be a bad look for any opposition party to reject an election. It would force Corbyn to actually make a decision.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:34 - Aug 4 with 419 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:29 - Aug 4 by Highjack

I agree it would be mental but we don’t live in conventional times. It would be an alternative to proroguing if he was that determined as parliament would be dissolved pending the GE. Propose an election, labour have been demanding an election for years, the libs also constantly bang on about going back to the people. It would be a bad look for any opposition party to reject an election. It would force Corbyn to actually make a decision.


I agree (see my post above) but only up to a point. I don’t think it would reflect badly on the opposition parties to refuse to sanction an election if the timing is being manipulated to facilitate a no deal exit that parliament doesn’t support. In those circumstances it’s exactly what they should do.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:35 - Aug 4 with 419 viewswaynekerr55

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:18 - Aug 4 by exiledclaseboy

It doesn’t do anything of the sort because if you’d read on you’ll have seen that Highjack was wrong.


Sorry poorly typed - but it does appear that Mr Kind and Gentle doesn't want a GE until after Brexit.

In my opinion he's a piece of shìt. A "jobs first Brexit" has no impact on his merry band of Champagne Marxists and the great unwashed, but will fúck the everyday man and woman over. I don't class Ebo and e Paul in either of these categories BTW

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:37 - Aug 4 with 415 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:35 - Aug 4 by waynekerr55

Sorry poorly typed - but it does appear that Mr Kind and Gentle doesn't want a GE until after Brexit.

In my opinion he's a piece of shìt. A "jobs first Brexit" has no impact on his merry band of Champagne Marxists and the great unwashed, but will fúck the everyday man and woman over. I don't class Ebo and e Paul in either of these categories BTW


You missed out “disaster capitalists” and “trust fund socialists” (whatever that is) otherwise you’d have had the full house of Wayne cliche bollocks bingo.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:39 - Aug 4 with 412 viewswaynekerr55

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:37 - Aug 4 by exiledclaseboy

You missed out “disaster capitalists” and “trust fund socialists” (whatever that is) otherwise you’d have had the full house of Wayne cliche bollocks bingo.


So you don't think that Brexit is fuelled by disaster capitalists and the new far left are rich 'socialists'? .

Edit - back on track, how does anyone stop a no deal Brexit now?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:31 - Aug 4 with 376 viewsHighjack

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It doesn’t do anything of the sort because if you’d read on you’ll have seen that Highjack was wrong.


How was I wrong?

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How was I wrong?


You weren’t. I recanted.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:18 - Aug 4 with 330 viewsbluey_the_blue

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:35 - Aug 4 by waynekerr55

Sorry poorly typed - but it does appear that Mr Kind and Gentle doesn't want a GE until after Brexit.

In my opinion he's a piece of shìt. A "jobs first Brexit" has no impact on his merry band of Champagne Marxists and the great unwashed, but will fúck the everyday man and woman over. I don't class Ebo and e Paul in either of these categories BTW


Guardian agree with you.

"This view is based on an analysis from the House of Commons library saying that, because of the timetable for an election following a vote of no confidence under the Fixed-terms Parliament Act (FTPA), the vote would have to be on Tuesday 3 September for an election definitely to take place before 31 October.

For a debate to take place on 3 September, the first day back after the summer recess, Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour leader, would have had to table a no-confidence motion before recess. But that did not happen."
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:21 - Aug 4 with 328 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:18 - Aug 4 by bluey_the_blue

Guardian agree with you.

"This view is based on an analysis from the House of Commons library saying that, because of the timetable for an election following a vote of no confidence under the Fixed-terms Parliament Act (FTPA), the vote would have to be on Tuesday 3 September for an election definitely to take place before 31 October.

For a debate to take place on 3 September, the first day back after the summer recess, Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour leader, would have had to table a no-confidence motion before recess. But that did not happen."


There are other ways round it though...
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:30 - Aug 4 with 319 viewswaynekerr55

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:21 - Aug 4 by londonlisa2001

There are other ways round it though...


I bloody hope so!

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