I reckon a Customs Union would have been acceptable to more people than a No Deal Brexit.
When all this started off, the talk was of a deal and leaving on an amicable basis, then suddenly we have the prospect of No Deal which is something I think we can all (well those with some incling of sense) see we are ill-equipped for.
Theres a lot of talk about a trade deal with the States, but striking a tidy deal with them won't be easy, Trump has an "America First" agenda (and I don't blame him putting his own people's needs first) and then there is a very strong pro Ireland agenda/group in the Congress Senate who are already on record as having said they will block any attempt at a deal if it undermines the peace process in NI.
How thick are you. A customs union means we will not be an independent country. Hopefully it’ll be no deal at all.
(No subject) (n/t) on 17:12 - Aug 11 with 635 views
I’d absolutely be taking responsibility for it, anyone voting against it has to shoulder some.
I think the deal falls short of what could be a good deal, the fact that all 27 states have a veto on whether we can leave or not is alarming, and it has to be unanimous. It’s never gonna end well. I still think there’ll be a deal agreed anyway.
On the other hand, if I was remain MP I’d be coming out and apologising for the mess we’re in, admitting playing a massive part in what’s gone on over the last few years and gonna do everything I could to make amends. The uncertainty over the next few months would be bad but it’s a means to an end.
I haven’t seen one remain MP do this and all they’ve done is blame brexiteers and cause more division and hatred.
There’s been talk of a people’s vote for 3 years. It’s been a big debate amongst the public where leave voters have argued that the result won’t be honoured again and remain voters have argued that it’s a chance to have a say now we know more. Now Party leaders of Lib Dem’s and greens are saying they wouldn’t honour result of leave won again. These people can’t be trusted any more than Boris or Farage. F**k me Chukka is in his 3rd party in 3 months.
An analysis by the Guardian and the environmental group Friends of the Earth identified 48 parliamentarians who claimed £5.7m in farming subsidies under the EU’s common agricultural policy (CAP) in 2017, the latest year for which figures are available.
Here’s just one example of why these MPs have their own agendas and we are just minions.
What are the names of those EU politicians negotiating our trading position with the world? Did we elect them? Can we remove them? Who are they accountable to?
These are the people that have become responsible for the UK’s trade agreements -
“DIT’s Trade Policy Group, which oversees the department’s activities in opening up overseas markets, has grown from 119 staff when it was set up in 2016 to around 650 staff in February 2019, and is also supported by 66 lawyers and 86 trade analysts from the wider department and a team of 60 DFID staff leading on UK trade with developing countries. The staff numbers include employees, contractors, those on loan from other government departments and secondees from external organisations. DIT considers that it still needs to recruit an additional 135 people across the Trade Policy Group.”
Did we elect them? Can we remove them? What are their names?
(No subject) (n/t) on 20:56 - Aug 11 with 443 views