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And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:53 - Aug 11 with 468 viewsbluey_the_blue

Lucas is now desperate to show that Greens aren't really loons by showing a really wonderful, amazing proposal of getting a highly selective cabinet in place to lock no deal.

A cabinet exclusively made up of 10 women.

Bonkers.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 17:05 - Aug 11 with 450 viewsexiledclaseboy

(No subject) (n/t) on 16:18 - Aug 11 by bluey_the_blue

Yup, leave the EU institution but stay in EU institutions to the extent couldn't negotiate own trade deals.

Do you really believe that would fly?


It would have got through parliament.

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(No subject) (n/t) on 17:07 - Aug 11 with 444 viewsbluey_the_blue

(No subject) (n/t) on 17:05 - Aug 11 by exiledclaseboy

It would have got through parliament.


I'm not convinced it would tbh.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 17:09 - Aug 11 with 443 viewsexiledclaseboy

(No subject) (n/t) on 17:07 - Aug 11 by bluey_the_blue

I'm not convinced it would tbh.


Why? Labour would have backed it as would the soft Brexit Tories. There’s your majority right there.

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(No subject) (n/t) on 17:09 - Aug 11 with 443 viewsjacks777

(No subject) (n/t) on 16:19 - Aug 11 by majorraglan

I reckon a Customs Union would have been acceptable to more people than a No Deal Brexit.

When all this started off, the talk was of a deal and leaving on an amicable basis, then suddenly we have the prospect of No Deal which is something I think we can all (well those with some incling of sense) see we are ill-equipped for.

Theres a lot of talk about a trade deal with the States, but striking a tidy deal with them won't be easy, Trump has an "America First" agenda (and I don't blame him putting his own people's needs first) and then there is a very strong pro Ireland agenda/group in the Congress Senate who are already on record as having said they will block any attempt at a deal if it undermines the peace process in NI.


How thick are you. A customs union means we will not be an independent country.
Hopefully it’ll be no deal at all.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 17:12 - Aug 11 with 440 viewsbluey_the_blue

(No subject) (n/t) on 17:09 - Aug 11 by exiledclaseboy

Why? Labour would have backed it as would the soft Brexit Tories. There’s your majority right there.


I'm not convinced Labour would have backed it. Starmer, sure but Corbyn?

Most MPs would also be savvy enough to know electorate wouldn't be happy. Those in marginals would sh1t themselves over it.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 17:14 - Aug 11 with 438 viewsexiledclaseboy

(No subject) (n/t) on 17:12 - Aug 11 by bluey_the_blue

I'm not convinced Labour would have backed it. Starmer, sure but Corbyn?

Most MPs would also be savvy enough to know electorate wouldn't be happy. Those in marginals would sh1t themselves over it.


Well you’re wrong.

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(No subject) (n/t) on 17:17 - Aug 11 with 435 viewsbluey_the_blue

(No subject) (n/t) on 17:14 - Aug 11 by exiledclaseboy

Well you’re wrong.


Not convinced one bit.

So you're wrong ;)

MPs backing scenarios where we've "left" but haven't really "left" are delusional.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 18:19 - Aug 11 with 416 viewsmajorraglan

(No subject) (n/t) on 17:09 - Aug 11 by jacks777

How thick are you. A customs union means we will not be an independent country.
Hopefully it’ll be no deal at all.


Clearly not as thick as you.

I know exactly what a Customs Union is. Read what I said, which was I reckon a Customs Union would have been acceptable to more people than a No Deal Brexit which, I think is still the case.

How are we not an Independent Country, we have our own parliament, can create our own laws, we have a veto we can use to veto legislation we don’t want to apply.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 18:34 - Aug 11 with 402 viewsJackFish

(No subject) (n/t) on 17:09 - Aug 11 by jacks777

How thick are you. A customs union means we will not be an independent country.
Hopefully it’ll be no deal at all.


What’s the grand plan for after no deal?
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(No subject) (n/t) on 18:43 - Aug 11 with 390 viewsHighjack

(No subject) (n/t) on 18:34 - Aug 11 by JackFish

What’s the grand plan for after no deal?


I think you open a few more boxes then the banker rings Noel again.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 19:22 - Aug 11 with 367 viewsexiledclaseboy

(No subject) (n/t) on 18:34 - Aug 11 by JackFish

What’s the grand plan for after no deal?


Sunshine, lollipops, rainbows and the spirit of the blitz.

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(No subject) (n/t) on 19:53 - Aug 11 with 343 viewssherpajacob

(No subject) (n/t) on 17:09 - Aug 11 by jacks777

How thick are you. A customs union means we will not be an independent country.
Hopefully it’ll be no deal at all.


Indeed, we want UK politicians negotiating our trading position with the world.

People like Truss and Raab.

Oh hang on a minute, on second thoughts...........

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(No subject) (n/t) on 19:58 - Aug 11 with 332 viewsHighjack

(No subject) (n/t) on 19:53 - Aug 11 by sherpajacob

Indeed, we want UK politicians negotiating our trading position with the world.

People like Truss and Raab.

Oh hang on a minute, on second thoughts...........


What are the names of those EU politicians negotiating our trading position with the world? Did we elect them? Can we remove them? Who are they accountable to?

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 20:05 - Aug 11 with 319 viewssherpajacob

(No subject) (n/t) on 19:58 - Aug 11 by Highjack

What are the names of those EU politicians negotiating our trading position with the world? Did we elect them? Can we remove them? Who are they accountable to?


Unless you are a constituent of either Raab or Truss, which I doubt, you can't remove either of them.

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(No subject) (n/t) on 20:07 - Aug 11 with 314 viewsFlashberryjack

(No subject) (n/t) on 20:05 - Aug 11 by sherpajacob

Unless you are a constituent of either Raab or Truss, which I doubt, you can't remove either of them.


Whataboutery at it's finest.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 20:08 - Aug 11 with 313 viewscostalotta

(No subject) (n/t) on 11:58 - Aug 11 by Jango

I’d absolutely be taking responsibility for it, anyone voting against it has to shoulder some.

I think the deal falls short of what could be a good deal, the fact that all 27 states have a veto on whether we can leave or not is alarming, and it has to be unanimous. It’s never gonna end well. I still think there’ll be a deal agreed anyway.

On the other hand, if I was remain MP I’d be coming out and apologising for the mess we’re in, admitting playing a massive part in what’s gone on over the last few years and gonna do everything I could to make amends. The uncertainty over the next few months would be bad but it’s a means to an end.

I haven’t seen one remain MP do this and all they’ve done is blame brexiteers and cause more division and hatred.

There’s been talk of a people’s vote for 3 years. It’s been a big debate amongst the public where leave voters have argued that the result won’t be honoured again and remain voters have argued that it’s a chance to have a say now we know more. Now Party leaders of Lib Dem’s and greens are saying they wouldn’t honour result of leave won again. These people can’t be trusted any more than Boris or Farage. F**k me Chukka is in his 3rd party in 3 months.

An analysis by the Guardian and the environmental group Friends of the Earth identified 48 parliamentarians who claimed £5.7m in farming subsidies under the EU’s common agricultural policy (CAP) in 2017, the latest year for which figures are available.

Here’s just one example of why these MPs have their own agendas and we are just minions.


https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/dominic-cummings-farm-took-e235000-i

Lol
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(No subject) (n/t) on 20:13 - Aug 11 with 303 viewsPawelAbbott

(No subject) (n/t) on 18:34 - Aug 11 by JackFish

What’s the grand plan for after no deal?


The grand plan is to then sign trade deals with the leading trading nations of the world.
Like, ummm, the EU, or Japan or Canada.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 20:18 - Aug 11 with 297 viewslonglostjack

(No subject) (n/t) on 20:13 - Aug 11 by PawelAbbott

The grand plan is to then sign trade deals with the leading trading nations of the world.
Like, ummm, the EU, or Japan or Canada.


Brilliant isn’t it ? Fawlty Towers. You really couldn’t make it up.

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(No subject) (n/t) on 20:45 - Aug 11 with 273 viewslondonlisa2001

(No subject) (n/t) on 17:12 - Aug 11 by bluey_the_blue

I'm not convinced Labour would have backed it. Starmer, sure but Corbyn?

Most MPs would also be savvy enough to know electorate wouldn't be happy. Those in marginals would sh1t themselves over it.


Corbyn explicitly backed Customs union in a speech first made at Coventry University and also in an interview with the BBC.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 20:49 - Aug 11 with 264 viewsbluey_the_blue

(No subject) (n/t) on 20:45 - Aug 11 by londonlisa2001

Corbyn explicitly backed Customs union in a speech first made at Coventry University and also in an interview with the BBC.


Yeah but Magic Grandpa changes his mind every day. He doesn't say anything he actually believes.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 20:50 - Aug 11 with 262 viewsFlashberryjack

(No subject) (n/t) on 20:45 - Aug 11 by londonlisa2001

Corbyn explicitly backed Customs union in a speech first made at Coventry University and also in an interview with the BBC.


Corbyn changes his opinion just like the wind changes direction...very much like all politicians.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 20:53 - Aug 11 with 256 viewslondonlisa2001

(No subject) (n/t) on 19:58 - Aug 11 by Highjack

What are the names of those EU politicians negotiating our trading position with the world? Did we elect them? Can we remove them? Who are they accountable to?


These are the people that have become responsible for the UK’s trade agreements -

“DIT’s Trade Policy Group, which oversees the department’s activities in opening up overseas markets, has grown from 119 staff when it was set up in 2016 to around 650 staff in February 2019, and is also supported by 66 lawyers and 86 trade analysts from the wider department and a team of 60 DFID staff leading on UK trade with developing countries. The staff numbers include employees, contractors, those on loan from other government departments and secondees from external organisations. DIT considers that it still needs to recruit an additional 135 people across the Trade Policy Group.”

Did we elect them? Can we remove them? What are their names?
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(No subject) (n/t) on 20:56 - Aug 11 with 248 viewslondonlisa2001

(No subject) (n/t) on 20:49 - Aug 11 by bluey_the_blue

Yeah but Magic Grandpa changes his mind every day. He doesn't say anything he actually believes.


Nope.

It’s been his position for ages to have a customs union.

Just making stuff up and then claiming a different story when you’re shown to be incorrect is pointless.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 20:57 - Aug 11 with 245 viewsexiledclaseboy

(No subject) (n/t) on 20:56 - Aug 11 by londonlisa2001

Nope.

It’s been his position for ages to have a customs union.

Just making stuff up and then claiming a different story when you’re shown to be incorrect is pointless.


It was in the 2017 labour manifesto.

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