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OUT WITH A DEAL EATING OUR CAKE AND LOVING IT suck it up remoaners
And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.
It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.
The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.
Happy Days.
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OUT AFLI SUCK IT UP REMOANER LOSERS
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:46 - Aug 14 by londonlisa2001
So the EU didn’t come running to us for a good deal when it was May as they didn’t believe no deal.
They do believe no deal now but still aren’t running to us for a good deal.
It’s almost as if we don’t actually hold all the cards isn’t it.
As for the ‘can’t be arsed’ bit. Johnson has absolutely no intention of negotiating with them. It’s the whole point. He has introduced a ‘negotiating position’ that is a fantasy. So why bother wasting their time?
If we end up in no deal and chaos until we go crawling back to them Bluey, it’s not the fault of the EU. It’s the fault of the useless, incompetent, preening w*nkers in the Tory party and the idiots that believe them.
They aren't coming running to us now as they believe they've the whip hand.
You know full well things are dynamic, not static - situation then isn't the situation now. Hard negotiating at the start could well have generated a deal parliament could have supported. Now? Too much time passed, EU view is "well, May agreed it...".
You don't know if Johnson has intentions or not, that's just a view which may or may not be true. The only way a deal could occur is for EU to see that we are serious about leaving with a deal or not, fully preparing for it. That should've occurred years ago, that's why sadly I don't think EU will do anything at all.
The reality, like it or not, is that Parliament - not just the "useless, incompetent, preening w*nkers in the Tory party" rejected the WA numerous, endless times. Without EU renegotiating that, there can be no deal. That's just a fact of life. EU approach is, "go back and keep voting on it till you agree with us". Easy to blame UK, less easy to blame EU.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:50 - Aug 14 with 1632 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:31 - Aug 14 by sherpajacob
To be fair to Farage, he did mention the no deal outcome.
"the worst case scenario" was how he described it.
I think if he looks back he is thinking of when he continually referred to No Deal as: "The worst case scenario"...which he did. It was definitely part of his spiel. pic.twitter.com/6KdzbYk15k
From BoJo's "Peoples PMQs thing" ( lifted from Guardian ).
"There’s a terrible kind of collaboration, as it were, going on, between people who think they can block Brexit in parliament and our European friends.
And our European friends are not moving in their willingness to compromise, they’re not compromising at all on the withdrawal agreement even though it’s been thrown out three times, they’re sticking to every letter, every comma of the withdrawal agreement - including the backstop - because they still think Brexit can be blocked in parliament.
The awful thing is the longer that goes on, the more likely it is of course that we will be forced to leave with a no-deal Brexit.
That’s not what I want, it’s not what we’re aiming for but we need our European friends to compromise. The more they think there’s a chance that Brexit can be blocked in parliament, the more adamant they are in sticking to their position."
Not much to disagree with there. EU insistence on not renegotiating WA that has been rejected numerous times is a sticking point.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 13:00 - Aug 14 with 1615 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:50 - Aug 14 by bluey_the_blue
From BoJo's "Peoples PMQs thing" ( lifted from Guardian ).
"There’s a terrible kind of collaboration, as it were, going on, between people who think they can block Brexit in parliament and our European friends.
And our European friends are not moving in their willingness to compromise, they’re not compromising at all on the withdrawal agreement even though it’s been thrown out three times, they’re sticking to every letter, every comma of the withdrawal agreement - including the backstop - because they still think Brexit can be blocked in parliament.
The awful thing is the longer that goes on, the more likely it is of course that we will be forced to leave with a no-deal Brexit.
That’s not what I want, it’s not what we’re aiming for but we need our European friends to compromise. The more they think there’s a chance that Brexit can be blocked in parliament, the more adamant they are in sticking to their position."
Not much to disagree with there. EU insistence on not renegotiating WA that has been rejected numerous times is a sticking point.
The Second remain are defeated in their attempts the thwart no deal is the second you’ll see the EU jump out of their recliners and think twice. Its easy calling leave voters idiots for believing in brexit but remainers are so bitter and stupid they can’t see that the remain MPs in parliament are doing the EUs job for them at the moment.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:08 - Aug 14 with 1566 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:02 - Aug 14 by Jango
The Second remain are defeated in their attempts the thwart no deal is the second you’ll see the EU jump out of their recliners and think twice. Its easy calling leave voters idiots for believing in brexit but remainers are so bitter and stupid they can’t see that the remain MPs in parliament are doing the EUs job for them at the moment.
And what are you basing this assumption on?
Why do you think the EU would put our need ahead of the need to preserve the integrity of the single market and customs?
What is the solution to the Irish border issue to replace the backstop~?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:35 - Aug 14 with 1544 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:02 - Aug 14 by Jango
The Second remain are defeated in their attempts the thwart no deal is the second you’ll see the EU jump out of their recliners and think twice. Its easy calling leave voters idiots for believing in brexit but remainers are so bitter and stupid they can’t see that the remain MPs in parliament are doing the EUs job for them at the moment.
You really are monumentally fûcking stupid.😂😂😂
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:08 - Aug 14 by Batterseajack
And what are you basing this assumption on?
Why do you think the EU would put our need ahead of the need to preserve the integrity of the single market and customs?
What is the solution to the Irish border issue to replace the backstop~?
Well it’s common sense to suggest that as long as remain are trying everything in their power to stop Brexit, the EU are not gonna do anything that would be favourable to the leave side. It’s not hard to understand you just don’t want to see it that way. Do you genuinely think Barnier, Tusk etc have no contact with the ones orchestrating the remain shenanigans?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:50 - Aug 14 with 1494 views
Cast your minds back to 2011 and the second Welsh referendum. Many of the opponents of Wales gaining additional powers argued that it would lead inevitably to independence. They were right - and in spite (or because) of their warnings a resounding 63.5% voted for Welsh independence.
Not quite how you recall events? There is no difference between this dubious argument and the laughable case put forward by Brexiteers that there is a mandate for a no deal Brexit.
The arguments presented by leavers in 2016 concentrated almost entirely on two issues - leaving the single market to reduce immigration (supported by racist posters and lies about Turkey's imminent admission to the EU) and the fraudulent claims about the £350 million a week to be saved. A no deal Brexit was at best a peripheral issue - and not an outcome actively promoted by the two Leave campaigns.
There is no democratic mandate for a no deal Brexit any more than the 2011 referendum in Wales was a mandate for Welsh independence, and we all know it.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:54 - Aug 14 with 1485 views
Yet we had Hammond at the disptach box stating the result of no deal being reached was wto rules. Endless Remainer back pre referendum stating no deal was an option.
Time to stop the lie people didn't know that no deal was an option for leaving.
Indeed, Hammond himself stated that WTO option was the cleanest option for leaving.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:20 - Aug 14 with 1471 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:54 - Aug 14 by bluey_the_blue
Yet we had Hammond at the disptach box stating the result of no deal being reached was wto rules. Endless Remainer back pre referendum stating no deal was an option.
Time to stop the lie people didn't know that no deal was an option for leaving.
Indeed, Hammond himself stated that WTO option was the cleanest option for leaving.
What percentage of voters who voted in the referendum had heard of WTO rules let alone understood the consequences of leaving on them ?
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:54 - Aug 14 by bluey_the_blue
Yet we had Hammond at the disptach box stating the result of no deal being reached was wto rules. Endless Remainer back pre referendum stating no deal was an option.
Time to stop the lie people didn't know that no deal was an option for leaving.
Indeed, Hammond himself stated that WTO option was the cleanest option for leaving.
In the same way as cutting you foot off is the cleanest way to cure an in growing toenail
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:57 - Aug 14 with 1439 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:50 - Aug 14 by bluey_the_blue
More to do with anti-Trump sentiment than anything tbh. If US politicians beloved IRA kick off, of course they'll fund raise for them.
Except that it isn't, the Democrat and Republican Congressmen who co-chairs the 54 strong Friends of Ireland have both come out on record against a trade deal if it undermines the GFA.
Not only were the vast majority of people unaware of the implications of a WTO Brexit back in 2016, but the vast majority wouldn't have had a clue about the distinction between the single market and customs union. I can say that confidently because I'll happily admit I would have struggled to explain the distinction at the time without Googling (perhaps even now...).
I would be astonished if more than 1% of the UK population understood back in 2016 what the customs union stood for, and our membership of it signified. And yet somehow, in the eyes of the Tories, the 2016 referendum provided a mandate for leaving the customs union. It's only as a result of this re-imagining of what the outcome of the 2016 referendum represented that we've ended up with this hopeless impasse regarding the backstop. If we were to stay in the customs union the backstop issue would be largely resolved.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:59 - Aug 14 with 1365 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 15:42 - Aug 14 by Jango
Well it’s common sense to suggest that as long as remain are trying everything in their power to stop Brexit, the EU are not gonna do anything that would be favourable to the leave side. It’s not hard to understand you just don’t want to see it that way. Do you genuinely think Barnier, Tusk etc have no contact with the ones orchestrating the remain shenanigans?
What is common sense? You haven’t answered my questions. What is the proposed alternative to the backstop?
Seems like the only solution to satisfy leavers is that the EU stops protecting its borders into member states. That’s not a workable solution for the single market. So how do you get around this?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:02 - Aug 14 with 1362 views
I quite like all the MPs kicking off, they are all on six weeks holiday!
I've never worked for an organisation facing a significant change that let all the decision makers go on holiday for 6 weeks leading up to deadline within three months.