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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK 23:28 - Nov 10 with 1212886 viewspikeypaul



And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:42 - Aug 27 with 492 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:35 - Aug 27 by Luther27

Coup d'etat in the making.


I agree. Thank goodness Parliament is trying to stop that coup happening.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:46 - Aug 27 with 481 viewsLuther27

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:42 - Aug 27 by exiledclaseboy

I agree. Thank goodness Parliament is trying to stop that coup happening.


Not getting involved. Let's wait for the outcome.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:47 - Aug 27 with 478 viewsGowerjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:37 - Aug 27 by Jango

Mp’s who have basically said ‘f*ck you, we are doing it our way’ to everyone who voted leave, now crying because the government are saying ‘f*ck you we are doing it out way’ to them. Bless.


Parliamentary democracy in the UK doesn't function in that way.

MP's are representatives not delegates as I'm sure you're aware.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:47 - Aug 27 with 478 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:46 - Aug 27 by Luther27

Not getting involved. Let's wait for the outcome.


You did get involved mun. Don’t cry off now.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:47 - Aug 27 with 478 viewssherpajacob

Farage arguing for EEA, Norway+ option


Farage arguing for no deal ( its not an option its the failure to reach an agreement)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49482032

If Nigel can change his mind, its only fair the rest us get the option to as well.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:13 - Aug 27 with 452 viewslonglostjack

The UK Parliament attempting to take back control. I thought that’s what the Brexiteers wanted ?

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:22 - Aug 27 with 443 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:47 - Aug 27 by Gowerjack

Parliamentary democracy in the UK doesn't function in that way.

MP's are representatives not delegates as I'm sure you're aware.


Most of the remain MP’s are representatives because they blatantly lied during the election campaign. They also told voters the referendum was a once in a lifetime vote because they thought remain would win (another lie). They’ve got a cheek crying about what’s morally right and wrong.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:26 - Aug 27 with 439 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:22 - Aug 27 by Jango

Most of the remain MP’s are representatives because they blatantly lied during the election campaign. They also told voters the referendum was a once in a lifetime vote because they thought remain would win (another lie). They’ve got a cheek crying about what’s morally right and wrong.


But no one was elected the last election on a mandate to leave the EU without a deal, Jang. Not the Tories, Labour or any other party represented in the current parliament. So seeing as you keep banging on about that you have to accept that this government has no mandate to take the UK out of the EU in that way.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:55 - Aug 27 with 416 viewsHighjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:26 - Aug 27 by exiledclaseboy

But no one was elected the last election on a mandate to leave the EU without a deal, Jang. Not the Tories, Labour or any other party represented in the current parliament. So seeing as you keep banging on about that you have to accept that this government has no mandate to take the UK out of the EU in that way.


When the only deal on offer is unacceptable and there is no prospect of the deal being changed what are the alternatives?

We can only remain, either through perpetual extension or revocation. But then that was the plan all along.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:56 - Aug 27 with 416 viewsmajorraglan

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:47 - Aug 27 by sherpajacob

Farage arguing for EEA, Norway+ option


Farage arguing for no deal ( its not an option its the failure to reach an agreement)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49482032

If Nigel can change his mind, its only fair the rest us get the option to as well.


Indeed.
After campaigning for a deal based Brexit he is now coming out with this “No Deal” is the only way, it’s crazy.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:04 - Aug 27 with 409 viewsLuther27

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:47 - Aug 27 by exiledclaseboy

You did get involved mun. Don’t cry off now.


I think I'll manage.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:06 - Aug 27 with 398 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:55 - Aug 27 by Highjack

When the only deal on offer is unacceptable and there is no prospect of the deal being changed what are the alternatives?

We can only remain, either through perpetual extension or revocation. But then that was the plan all along.


There are at least two alternatives. First is a general election during which the Johnson-led Conservatives presumably campaign for a no deal exit. If they win it, they’ll have the numbers in parliament so job done. Second is a referendum during which the leave side campaign to leave without a deal, which they didn’t do last time. If leave wins, job also done because parliament couldn’t then argue that there’s no mandate for no deal.

Both of these require a public endorsement of leaving without a deal and are entirely democratic as they involve, y’know, voting. Yet most leavers seem passionately opposed to either and/or both.

I’m not indulging the last sentence conspiracy theory again. It’s objectively and factually nonsensical.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:13 - Aug 27 with 385 viewsWarwickHunt

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:13 - Aug 27 by longlostjack

The UK Parliament attempting to take back control. I thought that’s what the Brexiteers wanted ?


Sovereignty, innit.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:16 - Aug 27 with 374 viewsLuther27

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:06 - Aug 27 by exiledclaseboy

There are at least two alternatives. First is a general election during which the Johnson-led Conservatives presumably campaign for a no deal exit. If they win it, they’ll have the numbers in parliament so job done. Second is a referendum during which the leave side campaign to leave without a deal, which they didn’t do last time. If leave wins, job also done because parliament couldn’t then argue that there’s no mandate for no deal.

Both of these require a public endorsement of leaving without a deal and are entirely democratic as they involve, y’know, voting. Yet most leavers seem passionately opposed to either and/or both.

I’m not indulging the last sentence conspiracy theory again. It’s objectively and factually nonsensical.


Ok..fvck it. What do you think would happen if people vote along their referendum vote. Interesting to see the make up of the Muppet Show then.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:18 - Aug 27 with 369 viewsWarwickHunt

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:16 - Aug 27 by Luther27

Ok..fvck it. What do you think would happen if people vote along their referendum vote. Interesting to see the make up of the Muppet Show then.


Can anyone translate this?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:18 - Aug 27 with 369 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:16 - Aug 27 by Luther27

Ok..fvck it. What do you think would happen if people vote along their referendum vote. Interesting to see the make up of the Muppet Show then.


I don’t understand the question?

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:25 - Aug 27 with 354 viewsHighjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:06 - Aug 27 by exiledclaseboy

There are at least two alternatives. First is a general election during which the Johnson-led Conservatives presumably campaign for a no deal exit. If they win it, they’ll have the numbers in parliament so job done. Second is a referendum during which the leave side campaign to leave without a deal, which they didn’t do last time. If leave wins, job also done because parliament couldn’t then argue that there’s no mandate for no deal.

Both of these require a public endorsement of leaving without a deal and are entirely democratic as they involve, y’know, voting. Yet most leavers seem passionately opposed to either and/or both.

I’m not indulging the last sentence conspiracy theory again. It’s objectively and factually nonsensical.


If a general election tomorrow delivered a 30 seat Tory majority based on a no deal pledge they’d still not have the numbers because they’ve got 50+ MPs who won’t sanction no deal anyway. The only solution to that would be to deselect them all.

Same thing would happen with a referendum. Leave could win again and they’d be screaming for a third and still wouldn’t accept it. If they didn’t accept the first result then they won’t accept a second one.

We would still be at the same situation that the only deal on offer is unacceptable but can’t be changed and no deal won’t be allowed.
[Post edited 27 Aug 20:29]

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:26 - Aug 27 with 352 viewsLuther27

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:18 - Aug 27 by exiledclaseboy

I don’t understand the question?


Never mind.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:29 - Aug 27 with 344 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

I prefer the cricket. If we win the Ashes we remain and if the Aussies win we can become another state down under and I'll move to Tropical North Queensland.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:30 - Aug 27 with 339 viewsLuther27

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:25 - Aug 27 by Highjack

If a general election tomorrow delivered a 30 seat Tory majority based on a no deal pledge they’d still not have the numbers because they’ve got 50+ MPs who won’t sanction no deal anyway. The only solution to that would be to deselect them all.

Same thing would happen with a referendum. Leave could win again and they’d be screaming for a third and still wouldn’t accept it. If they didn’t accept the first result then they won’t accept a second one.

We would still be at the same situation that the only deal on offer is unacceptable but can’t be changed and no deal won’t be allowed.
[Post edited 27 Aug 20:29]


That's why I posted earlier what if the electorate voted in a general election along the lines they voted leave/remain in the EU. How would the fvcking Muppet Show known as Parliament look then I wonder? I'm sure some of the sages on here will cast the chicken bones and let us know.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:33 - Aug 27 with 330 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:25 - Aug 27 by Highjack

If a general election tomorrow delivered a 30 seat Tory majority based on a no deal pledge they’d still not have the numbers because they’ve got 50+ MPs who won’t sanction no deal anyway. The only solution to that would be to deselect them all.

Same thing would happen with a referendum. Leave could win again and they’d be screaming for a third and still wouldn’t accept it. If they didn’t accept the first result then they won’t accept a second one.

We would still be at the same situation that the only deal on offer is unacceptable but can’t be changed and no deal won’t be allowed.
[Post edited 27 Aug 20:29]


Nope. If a majority government was elected on a manifesto pledge to leave without a deal that’s what would happen. If a referendum was won after a campaign during which the winning side clearly and unequivocally campaigned to leave without a deal that would also be honoured. Nobody has yet campaigned to leave without a deal. That’s the problem. If parliament wanted to stop Brexit altogether without recourse to voters it could easily have done it by now.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:35 - Aug 27 with 323 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:30 - Aug 27 by Luther27

That's why I posted earlier what if the electorate voted in a general election along the lines they voted leave/remain in the EU. How would the fvcking Muppet Show known as Parliament look then I wonder? I'm sure some of the sages on here will cast the chicken bones and let us know.


If 51.8% of voters at a general election voted for a government pledged to leave with no deal that government would have a massive majority in parliament so “the muppet show” wouldn’t be able to do anything about it.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:42 - Aug 27 with 308 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:06 - Aug 27 by exiledclaseboy

There are at least two alternatives. First is a general election during which the Johnson-led Conservatives presumably campaign for a no deal exit. If they win it, they’ll have the numbers in parliament so job done. Second is a referendum during which the leave side campaign to leave without a deal, which they didn’t do last time. If leave wins, job also done because parliament couldn’t then argue that there’s no mandate for no deal.

Both of these require a public endorsement of leaving without a deal and are entirely democratic as they involve, y’know, voting. Yet most leavers seem passionately opposed to either and/or both.

I’m not indulging the last sentence conspiracy theory again. It’s objectively and factually nonsensical.


We voted to leave and parliament done everything it possibly could to overturn the result and there was very much a mandate for it.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:47 - Aug 27 with 302 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:26 - Aug 27 by exiledclaseboy

But no one was elected the last election on a mandate to leave the EU without a deal, Jang. Not the Tories, Labour or any other party represented in the current parliament. So seeing as you keep banging on about that you have to accept that this government has no mandate to take the UK out of the EU in that way.


They had a mandate to leave. MP’s rejected the withdrawal agreement so either they accept any new deal that’s put on the table or we leave with no deal. People may argue that a vote to leave didn’t mean leaving with a no deal, but a vote to leave certainly didn’t mean remaining in the EU. They’d happily accept that outcome though.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:48 - Aug 27 with 300 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:42 - Aug 27 by Jango

We voted to leave and parliament done everything it possibly could to overturn the result and there was very much a mandate for it.


There is no mandate for leaving without a deal. No one campaigned for that during the referendum and no one campaigned for that at the last election. And this government isn’t the one elected at the last election so doesn’t actually have a mandate to do anything. Least of all a no deal Brexit.

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