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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK 23:28 - Nov 10 with 1038553 viewspikeypaul



And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:14 - Sep 3 with 708 viewsLohengrin

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:09 - Sep 3 by londonlisa2001

Quite a few have been interviewed who voted to leave. I was listening to a couple this afternoon. They said they still want to leave. They just think the prorogation is wrong.


I find that a lot, Lis. Rigid adherence to Parliamentary procedure tops the daily worries list of just about everybody on the bus queue at the Quadrant of a morning.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:14 - Sep 3 with 707 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:12 - Sep 3 by monmouth

Ouch

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/03/clown-prince-johnson-cowers-in-

Crace eviscerates yet another failed and hopeless Prime Minister. ‘Game Theory for Dommies’ ;just genius.


For all the talk about how great a politician Johnson is and how magic a touch he has, he certainly seems to be a bit, well, sh*t so far... As I said, when the bluster fails, there’s no substance. Just a nasty temper.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:15 - Sep 3 with 700 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:20 - Sep 3 with 673 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:14 - Sep 3 by Lohengrin

I find that a lot, Lis. Rigid adherence to Parliamentary procedure tops the daily worries list of just about everybody on the bus queue at the Quadrant of a morning.


Yeah, it seems that the time many cared (and they really, really cared because they kept saying so) about parliamentary sovereignty has gone. How fleeting their concern. Or convenient. Who knows.

Btw - ‘parliamentary procedure’ is not a fair description what this is about.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:25 - Sep 3 with 651 viewsLohengrin

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:20 - Sep 3 by londonlisa2001

Yeah, it seems that the time many cared (and they really, really cared because they kept saying so) about parliamentary sovereignty has gone. How fleeting their concern. Or convenient. Who knows.

Btw - ‘parliamentary procedure’ is not a fair description what this is about.


Pretty fair. The ghosts of Erskine May and Dicey were raised enough this evening to make it a reasonable enough comment.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:26 - Sep 3 with 642 viewsJango



Is this some sort of game between the lords and the commons?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:26 - Sep 3 with 641 viewsWarwickHunt

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:01 - Sep 3 by Jango

No Warwick, I think you’re losing your marbles with age. I reminded you of when you ridiculed those suggesting no deal was still very much on the table 6 months ago and here we are. I’ve always been of the opinion that we’ll get a deal through at the last moment and I still hope we do. Turn the wireless off, blow out the candle and get some sleep.


You trumpeted the other day that leaving at the end of October was now a certainty.
I can’t be arsed to look for it. Everyone saw it.

If you really believe this ‘last minute deal’ fantasy then you’re thicker than I thought.

Cummings called the “Brussels negotiations” a “sham”, no one in Brussels has heard a word from the UK and it’s emerged that the “negotiating team” had been disbanded and are back in London.

How did you think a deal was going to be done when Boris obviously didn’t want one and couldn’t even be arsed to make a token effort? Osmosis? Telepathy? Rock, paper, scissors?
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:27 - Sep 3 with 637 viewsHighjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:14 - Sep 3 by Lohengrin

I find that a lot, Lis. Rigid adherence to Parliamentary procedure tops the daily worries list of just about everybody on the bus queue at the Quadrant of a morning.


Yes and they often express their disappointment at the abuse of parliamentary procedure by waving giant eu flags and shouting “bollocks to brexit”

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:32 - Sep 3 with 618 viewsLohengrin

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:27 - Sep 3 by Highjack

Yes and they often express their disappointment at the abuse of parliamentary procedure by waving giant eu flags and shouting “bollocks to brexit”


Wearing either a blue furry hat or a Gallic beret while they do it. Millinery plays a big part in all this...

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:33 - Sep 3 with 607 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:26 - Sep 3 by WarwickHunt

You trumpeted the other day that leaving at the end of October was now a certainty.
I can’t be arsed to look for it. Everyone saw it.

If you really believe this ‘last minute deal’ fantasy then you’re thicker than I thought.

Cummings called the “Brussels negotiations” a “sham”, no one in Brussels has heard a word from the UK and it’s emerged that the “negotiating team” had been disbanded and are back in London.

How did you think a deal was going to be done when Boris obviously didn’t want one and couldn’t even be arsed to make a token effort? Osmosis? Telepathy? Rock, paper, scissors?


Pointless looking, you won’t find it. I’ve said all along that if the EU think no deal is a certainty they’ll blink. That was only ever gonna happen in October where I hoped a deal would be struck.

Hope that’s cleared up the confusion on your part.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:40 - Sep 3 with 586 viewsWarwickHunt

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:33 - Sep 3 by Jango

Pointless looking, you won’t find it. I’ve said all along that if the EU think no deal is a certainty they’ll blink. That was only ever gonna happen in October where I hoped a deal would be struck.

Hope that’s cleared up the confusion on your part.


No confusion,”mate”.

They won’t blink. It was never an option. It’s even more remote now if that’s possible.

There’s no deal. Boris didn’t want one. He never tried. He knew the backstop was non-negotiable.

You were sold a pup. Has the penny dropped yet?

Take your time...
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:41 - Sep 3 with 584 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:27 - Sep 3 by Highjack

Yes and they often express their disappointment at the abuse of parliamentary procedure by waving giant eu flags and shouting “bollocks to brexit”


A lot of union flags as well in London.

As I said, it’s mainly pro remain people, but that’s not the point of the protest.

If Corbyn had done it, it would be mainly Tory protests, but some Labour people would also consider it a step too far to abandon the primacy of parliament.

Anyway, it really doesn’t seem worth arguing about - I was only trying to explain why they went to the statue of Nye Bevan. I don’t much care. The important stuff was happening in parliament.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:43 - Sep 3 with 577 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

The communist dictatorship Tory party now sacking all the rebels.

Facking communists

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:47 - Sep 3 with 565 viewsSgorioFruit

An independent Wales looms

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:47 - Sep 3 with 565 viewslondonlisa2001

Revenge is sweet. Someone’s had an enjoyable evening...

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:49 - Sep 3 with 562 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:26 - Sep 3 by Jango



Is this some sort of game between the lords and the commons?


Johnson’s supporters are trying to prevent the new Bill passing by talking about it until prorogation.

They won’t be able to as there are mechanisms to stop them.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:57 - Sep 3 with 538 viewsHighjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:49 - Sep 3 by londonlisa2001

Johnson’s supporters are trying to prevent the new Bill passing by talking about it until prorogation.

They won’t be able to as there are mechanisms to stop them.


Things should be talked about and debated. Just railroading things through is profoundly undemocratic.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 00:10 - Sep 4 with 515 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:57 - Sep 3 by Highjack

Things should be talked about and debated. Just railroading things through is profoundly undemocratic.


Two days of debate should be enough for them to debate a bill that has been summarised into eight tweets by Hilary Benn.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 00:12 - Sep 4 with 513 viewsKerouac

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:57 - Sep 3 by Highjack

Things should be talked about and debated. Just railroading things through is profoundly undemocratic.


I see what you did there


Such brazen lying, but then the gloves have been off for a long time.

Ultimately, it all boils down to, the British public voted for Brexit and would do so again.
The 'Remainers' know this, deep down, they surely can sense that the public have not only had enough of being talked down to by the EU but are also sick to death of exactly the type of people you see on these anti-Brexit protests...sick to the back teeth of them and their hypocrisy.
That's my experience anyway and I talk to a lot of people, a lot of people in Labour heartlands, and beyond the anecdotal evidence the polling backs it up, the result of the original referendum backs it up and the subsequent elections (GE and European elections) backs this up.

They know this of course and are sh*it scared of facing the voters.
The whole strategy from day 1 has been to delay and delay and delay....they are hoping that enough Brexit voters die off and are replaced by young and stupid voters who will vote for what they are told to vote for.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 00:18 - Sep 4 with 503 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 00:12 - Sep 4 by Kerouac

I see what you did there


Such brazen lying, but then the gloves have been off for a long time.

Ultimately, it all boils down to, the British public voted for Brexit and would do so again.
The 'Remainers' know this, deep down, they surely can sense that the public have not only had enough of being talked down to by the EU but are also sick to death of exactly the type of people you see on these anti-Brexit protests...sick to the back teeth of them and their hypocrisy.
That's my experience anyway and I talk to a lot of people, a lot of people in Labour heartlands, and beyond the anecdotal evidence the polling backs it up, the result of the original referendum backs it up and the subsequent elections (GE and European elections) backs this up.

They know this of course and are sh*it scared of facing the voters.
The whole strategy from day 1 has been to delay and delay and delay....they are hoping that enough Brexit voters die off and are replaced by young and stupid voters who will vote for what they are told to vote for.


The polling doesn’t back it up though.

If the polling did back it up Johnson would call a second referendum. He’s not because he thinks he can game the FPTP system with a pact with Farage.

We’ll soon see anyway. The only way this ends is a general election or another referendum.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 01:03 - Sep 4 with 482 viewsmajorraglan

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 00:18 - Sep 4 by londonlisa2001

The polling doesn’t back it up though.

If the polling did back it up Johnson would call a second referendum. He’s not because he thinks he can game the FPTP system with a pact with Farage.

We’ll soon see anyway. The only way this ends is a general election or another referendum.


There a paper running a story along those lines. If Johnson is prepared to deal with Farage it’s clear that his intent is to take us out on a No Deal basis. The traditional Conservative press is raging this evening and people like Clarke, Soames and Hammond are in the firing line, it’s crazy because these people have been pillars of the Conservative party and the establishment and they are being savaged and marginalised by the extreme right of their Party.

I voted to Leave and my preference would still be to leave, but only with a decent deal which could have been negotiated had there been less shenanigans and posturing and more focus and pragmatism. Given a choice of No Deal or Remain, then it’s the latter every time.

We now have a Prime Minster who is untrustworthy ( yes I know met politicians are slippery and liars) but Boris is on another level. I hope he’s booted out of office sharpish, but the Conservative press is rallying around him and savaging his opposition.

If Labour had someone like Starmer in charge they would trounce Boris at the next election, but against Corbyn I see him winning.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 02:01 - Sep 4 with 463 viewsJango

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 08:38 - Sep 4 with 284 viewssherpajacob

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 22:22 - Sep 3 by exiledclaseboy

If. If he wins an election with a sizeable majority he’ll be able to do what he wants. Including bringing May’s deal back.

If. If. If.


If May had won her big majority, we'd be out now, but Northern Ireland would still be in the customs union.

Except she didn't,

This democracy stuff is a bitch isn't it

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 08:49 - Sep 4 with 268 viewsjackrmee

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 00:12 - Sep 4 by Kerouac

I see what you did there


Such brazen lying, but then the gloves have been off for a long time.

Ultimately, it all boils down to, the British public voted for Brexit and would do so again.
The 'Remainers' know this, deep down, they surely can sense that the public have not only had enough of being talked down to by the EU but are also sick to death of exactly the type of people you see on these anti-Brexit protests...sick to the back teeth of them and their hypocrisy.
That's my experience anyway and I talk to a lot of people, a lot of people in Labour heartlands, and beyond the anecdotal evidence the polling backs it up, the result of the original referendum backs it up and the subsequent elections (GE and European elections) backs this up.

They know this of course and are sh*it scared of facing the voters.
The whole strategy from day 1 has been to delay and delay and delay....they are hoping that enough Brexit voters die off and are replaced by young and stupid voters who will vote for what they are told to vote for.


Young voters are far from stupid. I think they are more switched on to the lies than the oldies these days tbh.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 10:21 - Sep 4 with 208 viewsPegojack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 08:49 - Sep 4 by jackrmee

Young voters are far from stupid. I think they are more switched on to the lies than the oldies these days tbh.


Quite funny, isn't he, old Kerouac?

Him and his ilk accuse the 'remoaners' (sic) of being patronising, talking down to Brexiteers and calling them thick because they don't agree, but when young people can see through the lies of the fascist regime of Johnson, they are all 'young and stupid'.

Anyway, I think the Labour Party and chums are playing it pretty well at the moment.

I would suggest that the next tactic, when Johnson introduces his bill for a General Election on 15th October, is to make support for it conditional on him giving a legally binding commitment that he won't change the date under any circumstances.

Of course he won't do that, which will make it plain to everyone (specially the great British voting public) what a lying little sh1t he is. Throw the spotlight back on him, boys, he doesn't like it up him!
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