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OUT WITH A DEAL EATING OUR CAKE AND LOVING IT suck it up remoaners
And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.
It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.
The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.
Happy Days.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:47 - Sep 6 by Gwyn737
And it’s not just the MMR.
The anti vaccination movement has spread wider. There’s even groups keeping their children off school for the flu vaccine. What do experts know, when?
Wasn't there a measles epidemic last year because parents were avoiding vaccinations? It's not just politics where honesty is a rarity. Chasing the money is causing problems in everything.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:52 - Sep 6 by Catullus
Wasn't there a measles epidemic last year because parents were avoiding vaccinations? It's not just politics where honesty is a rarity. Chasing the money is causing problems in everything.
We’re bouncing around the tipping point for herd immunity.
I’m not a big ‘nanny state’ fan, but I can appreciate why in Italy you need to prove immunisation of a child before starting school.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:56 - Sep 6 with 1614 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:51 - Sep 6 by Jack_Meoff
Seeing as there's two sides to every story - anyone read this?
Yes, there’s the truth side, and a book of made up self justifying bollox from someone that should be never heard from again side.
Please don’t treat this as being ‘the other side of the story’. This man has caused endless misery and there are children that have died as a result of the misinformation he has spread.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK (n/t) on 00:09 - Sep 7 by WarwickHunt
Second thoughts?
I have a child with autism. I'm willing to read around the subject more than most, I guess. That's why I read the book. That's why I put it out there tonight for debate.
If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--forever.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK (n/t) on 09:29 - Sep 7 with 1360 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK (n/t) on 00:21 - Sep 7 by Jack_Meoff
I have a child with autism. I'm willing to read around the subject more than most, I guess. That's why I read the book. That's why I put it out there tonight for debate.
In 2010, the GMC found that Wakefield had been dishonest in his research, had acted against his patients' best interests and mistreated developmentally delayed children, and had "failed in his duties as a responsible consultant". The Lancet fully retracted Wakefield's 1998 publication on the basis of the GMC's findings, noting that elements of the manuscript had been falsified and that the journal had been "deceived" by Wakefield.
The above is plenty of reason why not to believe anything Wakefield said. They also discovered previously undisclosed financial "conflicts of interest" so suggesting that Wakefield made these claims for financial reward and not because it was honest research. I understand your desire (as a parent to an auristic child) to do as much ressearch as possible but speaking as someone who has previously fallen victim to "fake news" we all have to be very careful what we believe. Even when advice is honestly given you cannot always trust it, for example, my wife followed medical advice (when pregnant) not to eat nuts. Our son has a severe nut allergy and now the prevailing opinion is it was avoiding nuts that caused the problem because he didn't get any nut protein when in the womb so didn't develop any immunity. We all know medical truths change quite frequently but a flat out lie rarely becomes the truth.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK (n/t) on 00:21 - Sep 7 by Jack_Meoff
I have a child with autism. I'm willing to read around the subject more than most, I guess. That's why I read the book. That's why I put it out there tonight for debate.
The problem is signs of autism become noticeable around the age a child begins to communicate. They are still there before, you just can't see them.
That's why Wakefield spinning "vaccine caused it" is such a monstrous lie.
All the best for your child.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:14 - Sep 7 with 1324 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 09:53 - Sep 6 by jacks777
Simple. If people took responsibility for their own lives billions would be saved and could then be spent on people who have have become ill through no fault of their own. Basically if you want to help the nhs, give up smoking, drugs, junk food and exercise more.
The reality is though people are to selfish and will continue to abuse their bodies and expect the nhs to come to the rescue.
Maybe the governments and their chums should stop shoving advertisements and so called societal norms down our throats as soon as we leave the womb, which makes us believe we need to be buying trinkets and fast food which fills their pockets and our hospitals at the same time then.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 09:58 - Sep 6 by costalotta
My wife works as a nurse in the NHS within the field of oncology. Not a shift goes by without her either coming home in tears or phoning to say she is working on because there are not enough staff, sometimes they can’t even do a handover as they too busy. She does stay on...sometimes for 3 or 4 hours. She’s not compensated for this.
She has to put up with massive under resourcing. Abuse from a minority of patients, actually it’s mainly families. Some of that is understandable (we all want the best care right) but she simply cannot slice her time any thinner. It’s not her fault yet she and others are abused for exactly that.
It’s Tory policies and not the fault of the NHS nurses, so you jack777 are an idiot f you think the NHS is over resourced. I hope not, but one day may may need the NHS so don’t surprised if what goes around comes around.
I doubt he will need the NHS mate, as he eats well, doesn't smoke or take any drugs, and that's the only things that can make you ill see.
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:14 - Sep 7 by jackrmee
Maybe the governments and their chums should stop shoving advertisements and so called societal norms down our throats as soon as we leave the womb, which makes us believe we need to be buying trinkets and fast food which fills their pockets and our hospitals at the same time then.
Maybe if people took responsibility for not stuffing their faces with fast food, educating themselves, learning to cook fresh food - it's not difficult - then adverts wouldn't be an issue.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:26 - Sep 7 with 1312 views
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:39 - Sep 6 by Catullus
I really need o correct one thing, it's not just Tory policies. The last Labour government (so called) was hugely responsible for sneaking privatisation in the NHS. It's been common to both Labour and Tory in the last 30 years. My sister in a specialist Oncology nurse, my wife works in dietetics, I have friends who are nurses, Paramedics and support staff and all say the same things. There is a shortage of funding AND massive waste in the NHS as well as poor management at higher levels. I mean, who signs a contract that means it's more expensive for a hospital to dispense paracetamol than to buy them in a chemist? The reasons ambulances are often late arriving, they are stuck outside A&E because there's no empty beds to transfer their passengers over, we have fewer hospital beds now than even 10 years ago despite the population rise.
Jack777 is partially right, we do need to take more responsibility for our own health but it's not the simple cure he akes out, people get ill for no apparent reason and just sometimes the doctor gives you tablets for one problem that end up causing another problem. I was given pain killers because I was struggling to walk because of pain in my hip (at the time I was at the top of the waiting list for a full hip replacement) but those pain killers damaged my liver, I was actually close to cirrhosis and as a result my hip operation was delayed. 18 months later and I've still not had it which makes it over 3 years since I first went on the list.
There are so many reasons for ill health including air pollution (not so easy to escape jack777) poor diet (maybe because of a low income) genetics (which you definitely can't escape and a reason behind my arthritic joints) so it's not just all about smoking, alcohol and drugs. If only it was that simple. Relatively speaking, we have it better than many other countries.
On the original post, having just returned from Rhodes, I was aksed by a Greek man why our politicians were so obviously corrupt? He was 31, he said the Uk voted leave but he doubted it would happen. personally he was a fan of the EU, his name was Vangelis!! Another man (called Nikos, took us on a lovely jeep ride across the island, told us some of it's history) who is closer to my age, mid 50's, he was anti EU. He was angry about the way Greece was treated and he hated the Germans (has a bugbear about war reparations apparently) so it seems the age split over the EU is duplicated elsewhere, at least for these two.
Vangelis was the son of the owner of "Chrysanthi apartments" in Pefkos and I can thoroughly recommend them, a lovely place, good food and excellent service.
I think people go on too much about previous governments. Tory Thatcher did this, Labour Blair did that... It doesn't even matter. They aren't Labour or Tory now. They were the past. They don't matter any more. It doesn't matter what party did what and it doesn't even matter what party the MPs of today represent. It's what they want to implement NOW!
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:18 - Sep 7 by bluey_the_blue
Maybe if people took responsibility for not stuffing their faces with fast food, educating themselves, learning to cook fresh food - it's not difficult - then adverts wouldn't be an issue.
Bearing in mind the extra cost of fresh food and most people are generally lazy and will take the quick fix of fast food or take aways, isn't it time food manufacturing was more tightly controlled so the quality of our "processed" food was better. If you buy fresh and cook fresh for just a week, but do it and then go back to eating the processed foods and you will notice the difference, do it for a month and you'll feel better though your bank balance will notice too because it is more expensive. The amount of rubbish they put in processed meat is abhorrent. Even in so called fresh chicken portions, there is about 10-15% water and the chemicals they use to ensure the meat retains the water. Fry the chicken breast and you'll see the pan has lost of water left behind and the meat has shrunk considerably and we are charged by weight, it's a total con as well as a health hazard. I'll get off my high horse now!
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:31 - Sep 6 by Catullus
That leads me directly to one of the reasons I voted leave! We have too many politicans and the more we allow to exist, the more they screw up the world for the rest of us whilst they coin it in at our expense. The NHS should be a UK thing, not split up into devolved areas, the WAG has done immense damage. We have duplicated admin, postcode lotteries, different standards, all because we have 4 governments running a National service, politicians just make a mess whatever they touch. Lots more I could say but I have to go now. I hope, Costalotta, your wife gets out before she gets as damaged as my sister was, hopefully before she's damaged at all. She's doing a fantastic and very difficult job, say thank you from me.
But it's not the Eu who want to sell off the NHS and privatise all our services is it?
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:22 - Sep 6 by LeonWasGod
I think a lot of people voted to leave because of perceived problems that are purely domestic.
And that blame game still goes on - Tim Wetherspoon announcing today that he has slashed the price of Ruddles to demonstrate what will happen when we no longer have "protectionist tariffs' when we leave the EU. The only problem with that symbolism is that we don't have tariffs on imported beers/wines/spirits (except a very limited number of exceptions), we're still actually in the EU and Ruddles is brewed in the UK. Apart from that it's a great example from Tim
I'm lost on that example...
How does putting the price down on beer show what will happen?
Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:29 - Sep 7 by jackrmee
But it's not the Eu who want to sell off the NHS and privatise all our services is it?
The EU has rules about state aid. Those rules are ostensibly to ensure fair competition in the common market place. If we fully implement these rules it leads inevitably to a privatised health service.