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The Countdown begins. 23:28 - Nov 10 with 235298 viewspikeypaul



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1:19 pm today was the exact mid point from when the result that the Great British public had decided to leave the EU and the time 11pm March 29th 2019 that Democracy will be delivered.

Happy days.
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The Countdown begins. on 09:50 - Jun 18 with 1250 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 07:00 - Jun 18 by Batterseajack

So do you believe TM that this increase in money to the NHS will be part funded (to the tune of about 45%) by a brexit dividend?


The great Brexit dividend was on the front page of the Express over the weekend, so it must be true. But I don't think anyone is falling for it are they? TM's colleagues certainly aren't. Most of the sensible (non-tabloid Express/Mail) media aren't.

There's no evidence yet that a dividend is likely. We're heading towards continuing to pay the EU for some time, and even after the transition period it looks like we'll volunteer to pay in for access to certain things. And there's also very strong evidence that any contribution savings are already being offset by the economy shrinking effect of the referendum result (which in turn raises less tax for public spending). Again there's nothing to suggest this will change after we leave. There's plenty of hope we'll make Britain great again, but no clarity on how or if that will be achieved.

I call bull on the whole announcement.
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The Countdown begins. on 10:49 - Jun 18 with 1202 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 09:50 - Jun 18 by LeonWasGod

The great Brexit dividend was on the front page of the Express over the weekend, so it must be true. But I don't think anyone is falling for it are they? TM's colleagues certainly aren't. Most of the sensible (non-tabloid Express/Mail) media aren't.

There's no evidence yet that a dividend is likely. We're heading towards continuing to pay the EU for some time, and even after the transition period it looks like we'll volunteer to pay in for access to certain things. And there's also very strong evidence that any contribution savings are already being offset by the economy shrinking effect of the referendum result (which in turn raises less tax for public spending). Again there's nothing to suggest this will change after we leave. There's plenty of hope we'll make Britain great again, but no clarity on how or if that will be achieved.

I call bull on the whole announcement.


It wasn't long ago that Brexiteers acknowledged that of course there will be short term pain, and we were patronizing to suggest they weren't aware of this when voting, to now going back to claiming that there will be a Brexit Dividend that can part fund the NHS, despite all economic assessments claiming otherwise.
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The Countdown begins. on 11:17 - Jun 18 with 1186 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 10:49 - Jun 18 by Batterseajack

It wasn't long ago that Brexiteers acknowledged that of course there will be short term pain, and we were patronizing to suggest they weren't aware of this when voting, to now going back to claiming that there will be a Brexit Dividend that can part fund the NHS, despite all economic assessments claiming otherwise.


Yes, although in this case they're being lead up the garden path by the media and May.

We've gone from this on Saturday:


To Hunt saying less than 48 hours later that any Brexit savings will be "nowhere near enough" to cover this pledge.

May and the pro-Leave media are taking people for absolute mugs. Nobody is stupid enough to buy this nonsense, surely?
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The Countdown begins. on 11:44 - Jun 18 with 1171 viewsKilkennyjack

The Countdown begins. on 11:17 - Jun 18 by LeonWasGod

Yes, although in this case they're being lead up the garden path by the media and May.

We've gone from this on Saturday:


To Hunt saying less than 48 hours later that any Brexit savings will be "nowhere near enough" to cover this pledge.

May and the pro-Leave media are taking people for absolute mugs. Nobody is stupid enough to buy this nonsense, surely?


You are right, i mean you would have to be as thick as two short planks to believe something that the governments own figures contradict.

Boris clearly calling the shots to save his own skin.
He knows the leave bus was a personal disaster.
Mrs May denying reality - but reality always bites in the end.

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The Countdown begins. on 12:14 - Jun 18 with 1147 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 11:44 - Jun 18 by Kilkennyjack

You are right, i mean you would have to be as thick as two short planks to believe something that the governments own figures contradict.

Boris clearly calling the shots to save his own skin.
He knows the leave bus was a personal disaster.
Mrs May denying reality - but reality always bites in the end.


And then there's the added insult of £20bn not being enough to get back to NHS spending levels pre-2010. This government, and Cameron's previously, has done nothing but treat the NHS (and the electorate) with contempt ever since they came in. It's like chopping of someone's leg and then expecting to be seen as their saviour by giving them a crutch.

Yet people continue to vote for their lies .


(PS - Labour aren't any better and I'm not a 'leftie').
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The Countdown begins. on 13:03 - Jun 18 with 1118 viewsKilkennyjack

The Countdown begins. on 12:14 - Jun 18 by LeonWasGod

And then there's the added insult of £20bn not being enough to get back to NHS spending levels pre-2010. This government, and Cameron's previously, has done nothing but treat the NHS (and the electorate) with contempt ever since they came in. It's like chopping of someone's leg and then expecting to be seen as their saviour by giving them a crutch.

Yet people continue to vote for their lies .


(PS - Labour aren't any better and I'm not a 'leftie').


Some might say .....starve NHS of investment, ensure the NHS fails, - and then privatise NHS for private profit.

I mean who would be ‘nasty’ enough to do that ....?

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The Countdown begins. on 13:42 - Jun 18 with 1111 viewsHighjack

The Countdown begins. on 20:48 - Jun 17 by Kilkennyjack

This Govt will fall on Brexit, its not going well butt.


Are you against this Tory government falling then?

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The Countdown begins. on 17:56 - Jun 18 with 1061 viewsGowerjack

The Countdown begins. on 09:49 - Jun 18 by sherpajacob





Those of you that voted to get back parliamentary sovereignty.

You've been done.


Yep

A blatant power grab...

Read this
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/17/may-grieve-brexit-constitu

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The Countdown begins. on 18:05 - Jun 18 with 1047 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 11:44 - Jun 18 by Kilkennyjack

You are right, i mean you would have to be as thick as two short planks to believe something that the governments own figures contradict.

Boris clearly calling the shots to save his own skin.
He knows the leave bus was a personal disaster.
Mrs May denying reality - but reality always bites in the end.


It’s May doing this to stop Boris I think. That’s why, as I said, despite its utter stupidity (matched by the stupidity of anyone that believes it) it’s quite a clever political ploy as Boris can’t say it’s a pile of crap because he stood in front of that stupid bus.
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The Countdown begins. on 20:15 - Jun 18 with 1000 viewsFlashberryjack

The Countdown begins. on 22:52 - Jun 17 by Kilkennyjack

Democracy means people can change their minds - or why bother with periodic elections at all ?

Listen ...the young people love the EU, so as soon as the old b@stards die off then the UK will
be back in EU. Its as sure as night follows day.

Obviously Scotland and the north of Ireland will be free by then....🎣


You really are a nasty piece of work.

I wish I had a mate like Neath_Jack.

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The Countdown begins. on 20:23 - Jun 18 with 992 viewsHCMC

The Countdown begins. on 20:15 - Jun 18 by Flashberryjack

You really are a nasty piece of work.


The vilest forum member by a country mile.
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The Countdown begins. on 21:04 - Jun 18 with 967 viewsexiledclaseboy

The House of Lords passes the Hailsham/Grieve amendment. And back to the Commons we go.

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The Countdown begins. on 21:58 - Jun 18 with 935 viewsKilkennyjack

The Countdown begins. on 21:04 - Jun 18 by exiledclaseboy

The House of Lords passes the Hailsham/Grieve amendment. And back to the Commons we go.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44518702

Lords 2 Brexidiots 0

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The Countdown begins. on 21:59 - Jun 18 with 934 viewsKilkennyjack

The Countdown begins. on 20:15 - Jun 18 by Flashberryjack

You really are a nasty piece of work.


You really are a snowflake ...

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The Countdown begins. on 22:00 - Jun 18 with 931 viewsKilkennyjack

The Countdown begins. on 20:23 - Jun 18 by HCMC

The vilest forum member by a country mile.


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The Countdown begins. on 22:01 - Jun 18 with 931 viewspeenemunde

The Countdown begins. on 21:59 - Jun 18 by Kilkennyjack

You really are a snowflake ...


Wishing people die......one sick individual.
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The Countdown begins. on 22:05 - Jun 18 with 924 viewsKilkennyjack

The Countdown begins. on 22:01 - Jun 18 by peenemunde

Wishing people die......one sick individual.


Nope - no wishing in my post.

Happy to accept your apology.

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The Countdown begins. on 23:29 - Jun 18 with 880 viewssherpajacob

The Countdown begins. on 18:05 - Jun 18 by londonlisa2001

It’s May doing this to stop Boris I think. That’s why, as I said, despite its utter stupidity (matched by the stupidity of anyone that believes it) it’s quite a clever political ploy as Boris can’t say it’s a pile of crap because he stood in front of that stupid bus.


Next step, make Boris chancellor.

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The Countdown begins. on 04:13 - Jun 19 with 829 viewspikeypaul

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The Countdown begins. on 07:25 - Jun 19 with 785 viewslonglostjack

It could get very interesting today.

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The Countdown begins. on 10:00 - Jun 19 with 750 viewsJango

In a few years from now, once we’ve left the EU and are doing quite well the remain side are gonna look back and say ‘ if only we hadn’t been so f***ing thick and bitter, we could have got an even better deal by not making it as hard as possible for our own country to get the best deal possible’

One industry that will flourish in the immediate aftermath of Brexit will be the tissue industry drying all those tears.
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The Countdown begins. on 10:55 - Jun 19 with 731 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 07:25 - Jun 19 by longlostjack

It could get very interesting today.


I doubt it!
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The Countdown begins. on 11:15 - Jun 19 with 717 viewsthe_oracle

The Countdown begins. on 10:00 - Jun 19 by Jango

In a few years from now, once we’ve left the EU and are doing quite well the remain side are gonna look back and say ‘ if only we hadn’t been so f***ing thick and bitter, we could have got an even better deal by not making it as hard as possible for our own country to get the best deal possible’

One industry that will flourish in the immediate aftermath of Brexit will be the tissue industry drying all those tears.


Any evidence of how well we are going to do? Or haven't we left yet?
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The Countdown begins. on 11:59 - Jun 19 with 703 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 10:00 - Jun 19 by Jango

In a few years from now, once we’ve left the EU and are doing quite well the remain side are gonna look back and say ‘ if only we hadn’t been so f***ing thick and bitter, we could have got an even better deal by not making it as hard as possible for our own country to get the best deal possible’

One industry that will flourish in the immediate aftermath of Brexit will be the tissue industry drying all those tears.


If only the Government didn't have to deal with that pesky Parliament eh?

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The Countdown begins. on 13:04 - Jun 19 with 678 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 11:59 - Jun 19 by longlostjack

If only the Government didn't have to deal with that pesky Parliament eh?


I guess you’re talking about those idiots in parliament who, from the very start, had no intentions of working to get a good deal. No intentions of doing their upmost to honour the vote if the people . Their only intentions being to try and stop brexit. What a parliament we have eh?
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