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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK 23:28 - Nov 10 with 1112310 viewspikeypaul



And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:46 - Sep 13 with 713 viewsWingstandwood

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:34 - Sep 13 by rockinjk

Worst example yet

We all know Cameron won because he managed to peel off a few racists from UKIP

That doesn’t mean it was an issue of importance

In fact it proves the point


I think your (and many others also) gratuitous and malicious Matthew Hopkins Witchfinder General standard 'racist' definition upon innocents, who just happen to have a different opinion to yourself can be rather inaccurate at times.

Waqas Ali Khan is about as much a 'racist' as Boris Johnson is a member of The Socialist Workers Party.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:16 - Sep 13 with 668 viewslonglostjack

German press reporting that Boris may be prepared to effectively keep N.Ireland in the Customs Union - which was the EU’s original proposal. There’ll need to be some fudgy language to soften the blow for Boris and they’d also be prepared to offer a “technical extension” for a month to get the agreement drawn up. DUP would go ballistic but they’re no longer needed. The bonus for Boris is that it would neuter Farage.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:31 - Sep 13 with 643 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:34 - Sep 13 by rockinjk

Worst example yet

We all know Cameron won because he managed to peel off a few racists from UKIP

That doesn’t mean it was an issue of importance

In fact it proves the point


Ye only a few that somehow turned into 17.4m and the majority. Haven’t really thought that through have you.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:38 - Sep 13 with 636 viewsKilkennyjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:16 - Sep 13 by longlostjack

German press reporting that Boris may be prepared to effectively keep N.Ireland in the Customs Union - which was the EU’s original proposal. There’ll need to be some fudgy language to soften the blow for Boris and they’d also be prepared to offer a “technical extension” for a month to get the agreement drawn up. DUP would go ballistic but they’re no longer needed. The bonus for Boris is that it would neuter Farage.
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Yes, thats what will now play out.

Cummings does not give a toss.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:45 - Sep 13 with 622 viewsrockinjk

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:46 - Sep 13 by Wingstandwood

I think your (and many others also) gratuitous and malicious Matthew Hopkins Witchfinder General standard 'racist' definition upon innocents, who just happen to have a different opinion to yourself can be rather inaccurate at times.

Waqas Ali Khan is about as much a 'racist' as Boris Johnson is a member of The Socialist Workers Party.


The vast majority of UKIP supporters are racist or xenophobic. It’s just the truth
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:17 - Sep 13 with 559 viewsUxbridge

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:38 - Sep 13 by Kilkennyjack

Yes, thats what will now play out.

Cummings does not give a toss.


I'm not convinced they have the votes in the house for that. Or anything. Not now.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:21 - Sep 13 with 555 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:45 - Sep 13 by rockinjk

The vast majority of UKIP supporters are racist or xenophobic. It’s just the truth


If you ask him nicely he’ll give you a long list of UKIP/Farage Party candidates or members from non-white backgrounds to prove that they absolutely can’t be racist and/or xenophobic because some of their best friends are black see. As well as some guff about witches which I note he’s already delighted you with.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:25 - Sep 13 with 546 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:17 - Sep 13 by Uxbridge

I'm not convinced they have the votes in the house for that. Or anything. Not now.


That type of deal wouldn’t neuter Farage either, he’ll go for the throat if it’s anything other than no deal. The trick for Johnson (because I agree with longlost that deal will be put to parliament before the end of October) is getting enough labour MPs on side to neutralise the DUP and the ERG. Could well work. The ensuing election will be messy as hell.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:35 - Sep 13 with 530 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:25 - Sep 13 by exiledclaseboy

That type of deal wouldn’t neuter Farage either, he’ll go for the throat if it’s anything other than no deal. The trick for Johnson (because I agree with longlost that deal will be put to parliament before the end of October) is getting enough labour MPs on side to neutralise the DUP and the ERG. Could well work. The ensuing election will be messy as hell.


It’s almost as if the outcome could have been anticipated. Oh wait. It was...

It’s been so obvious that May’s deal is the only deal. It’s also been obvious for a while that the backstop tweak will be NI only (the EU’s preference from the start).

The only question will be whether Labour add either a customs union or a second referendum to the deal before backing it. One way or neutralising Farage is bring back the deal, add a referendum (don’t call an election until afterwards). The question will be deal or remain. If remain, revoke (nothing in the world Farage will be able to do) if deal, sign deal (nothing in world Farage will be able to do). I suspect he would then avoid an election until after the event.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:41 - Sep 13 with 521 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:35 - Sep 13 by londonlisa2001

It’s almost as if the outcome could have been anticipated. Oh wait. It was...

It’s been so obvious that May’s deal is the only deal. It’s also been obvious for a while that the backstop tweak will be NI only (the EU’s preference from the start).

The only question will be whether Labour add either a customs union or a second referendum to the deal before backing it. One way or neutralising Farage is bring back the deal, add a referendum (don’t call an election until afterwards). The question will be deal or remain. If remain, revoke (nothing in the world Farage will be able to do) if deal, sign deal (nothing in world Farage will be able to do). I suspect he would then avoid an election until after the event.


I can’t see any way an election can be postponed until after a referendum.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:45 - Sep 13 with 511 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:41 - Sep 13 by exiledclaseboy

I can’t see any way an election can be postponed until after a referendum.


How do you think it would be called in that event?

Labour wouldn’t call one (they’ve said they’d prefer a referendum first, I think at least - I’m finding them a little confusing at the moment).
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:48 - Sep 13 with 503 viewsNeathJack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:45 - Sep 13 by londonlisa2001

How do you think it would be called in that event?

Labour wouldn’t call one (they’ve said they’d prefer a referendum first, I think at least - I’m finding them a little confusing at the moment).


Only Watson has said he'd prefer a referendum before an election, and as usual he's off message.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:49 - Sep 13 with 501 viewsHighjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:34 - Sep 13 by rockinjk

Worst example yet

We all know Cameron won because he managed to peel off a few racists from UKIP

That doesn’t mean it was an issue of importance

In fact it proves the point


He didn’t peel anything from UKIP in 2015. UKIP had four million votes. If anything it showed the racists abandoning Ed Milliband.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:49 - Sep 13 with 500 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:45 - Sep 13 by londonlisa2001

How do you think it would be called in that event?

Labour wouldn’t call one (they’ve said they’d prefer a referendum first, I think at least - I’m finding them a little confusing at the moment).


Lord knows. I’m just thinking of the practicalities. The government is crippled currently and is, frankly, illegitimate. Nothing would happen for six months while we have another referendum. Although that’s much the same as the last three years so maybe it’s not so outlandish.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:00 - Sep 13 with 479 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:48 - Sep 13 by NeathJack

Only Watson has said he'd prefer a referendum before an election, and as usual he's off message.


Is he? I thought some others had started to say that now. Lord knows - it’s impossible to keep up with their position
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:02 - Sep 13 with 472 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:48 - Sep 13 by NeathJack

Only Watson has said he'd prefer a referendum before an election, and as usual he's off message.


But the most sensible among them.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:04 - Sep 13 with 465 viewsHighjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:00 - Sep 13 by londonlisa2001

Is he? I thought some others had started to say that now. Lord knows - it’s impossible to keep up with their position


Their position has been clear since the last conference. Keep all options on the table. You can’t get more specific than that.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:05 - Sep 13 with 464 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:49 - Sep 13 by exiledclaseboy

Lord knows. I’m just thinking of the practicalities. The government is crippled currently and is, frankly, illegitimate. Nothing would happen for six months while we have another referendum. Although that’s much the same as the last three years so maybe it’s not so outlandish.


Nothing is getting done until brexit is sorted I don’t think. Whoever is nominally in government.

If we reset our thinking to the fact that Cummings hates Farage more than anyone else, neutralising him may be their first priority.

As many of us have said for month after month, the May deal or remain are the only options really available. Whether Labour shove an amendment onto it and if so, whether that amendment is permanent customs union or referendum, who knows.

Farage will be spitting feathers tonight. More and more sources are reporting Johnson bringing the deal back. I’m looking forward to Bluey now supporting it
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:08 - Sep 13 with 459 viewsexiledclaseboy

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:05 - Sep 13 by londonlisa2001

Nothing is getting done until brexit is sorted I don’t think. Whoever is nominally in government.

If we reset our thinking to the fact that Cummings hates Farage more than anyone else, neutralising him may be their first priority.

As many of us have said for month after month, the May deal or remain are the only options really available. Whether Labour shove an amendment onto it and if so, whether that amendment is permanent customs union or referendum, who knows.

Farage will be spitting feathers tonight. More and more sources are reporting Johnson bringing the deal back. I’m looking forward to Bluey now supporting it


Bluey and others can’t support the deal. They’ve been telling us for months how it means we’ll never actually leave the EU. They wouldn’t change their minds on something so fundamental surely?!

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:10 - Sep 13 with 454 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:04 - Sep 13 by Highjack

Their position has been clear since the last conference. Keep all options on the table. You can’t get more specific than that.


Labour’s Brexit position is akin to your gender position

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:11 - Sep 13 with 452 viewsLeonWasGod

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:04 - Sep 13 by Highjack

Their position has been clear since the last conference. Keep all options on the table. You can’t get more specific than that.


Woah, hang on. They haven’t decided which table yet.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:06 - Sep 13 with 363 viewsrockinjk

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 20:08 - Sep 13 by exiledclaseboy

Bluey and others can’t support the deal. They’ve been telling us for months how it means we’ll never actually leave the EU. They wouldn’t change their minds on something so fundamental surely?!


At every stage of this I’ve predicted it and it depresses me greatly

Once it was slave state, surrender doc, you name it

Johnson will change the font, blow dry his hair and spout a load of pretentious waffle and the right wing will fall into line from the press, through to the MPs and down to the unthinking masses

It will all depend on labour and in reality they should say yes we’ll vote for it subject to a referendum but dozy twit corbyn will no doubt fluff his lines

Vassal State one minute, the next unicorn deal arrives because charisma has arrived (apparently)

For a quiet life sometimes you think vote for inferior bs just to appease to the blue passport cockwombles.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:36 - Sep 13 with 339 viewsUxbridge

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:25 - Sep 13 by exiledclaseboy

That type of deal wouldn’t neuter Farage either, he’ll go for the throat if it’s anything other than no deal. The trick for Johnson (because I agree with longlost that deal will be put to parliament before the end of October) is getting enough labour MPs on side to neutralise the DUP and the ERG. Could well work. The ensuing election will be messy as hell.


I'm not sure my ribs could cope with Johnson bringing the same deal back with a minor tweak. It'd be ace.

If sense reigns they'll do a second ref first. I doubt it will. And I doubt the election would solve the problem either.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:41 - Sep 13 with 332 viewsrockinjk

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:36 - Sep 13 by Uxbridge

I'm not sure my ribs could cope with Johnson bringing the same deal back with a minor tweak. It'd be ace.

If sense reigns they'll do a second ref first. I doubt it will. And I doubt the election would solve the problem either.


2nd referendum would finish it

If we vote leave, 99% of remainers will never utter another word

It would be over. After all we know now, if we vote for Brexit then that is democratic

What people can’t abide is the 2016 miss selling scandal
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:57 - Sep 13 with 318 viewsLuther27

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:41 - Sep 13 by rockinjk

2nd referendum would finish it

If we vote leave, 99% of remainers will never utter another word

It would be over. After all we know now, if we vote for Brexit then that is democratic

What people can’t abide is the 2016 miss selling scandal


You been on the pop or what? The only thing people would stomach is a General Election. Of course, that's just a personal opinion after watching this weeks Question Time.
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