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And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:04 - Sep 22 with 733 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:41 - Sep 22 by londonlisa2001

He’s the Halford Mackinder Professor of Geography at Oxford University, a visiting professor in the Department of Sociology of Goldsmiths, University of London, a visiting professor in the School of Social and Community Medicine of the University of Bristol, a visiting fellow at the Institute for Public Policy Research, and a member of the National Advisory Panel for the Centre for Labour and Social Studies.

He’s a specialist in social geography (which is the movement of people), a specialist in UK demographic statistics, and yet according to you, it’s a ‘load of crap’ and he’s not an expert.

It really is beyond laughable how arrogant you are. Your knowledge of geography doesn’t even extend to understanding that ‘geography’ doesn’t mean he knows the capital of France.


Yet when I put an opinion up on here from an expert economist from Cambridge University the other day and you shot it down. It really is laughable how ignorant you are.

There’s absolutely no way this professor knows that what he is suggesting is factual. It’s just guesswork. It’s also totally meaningless. Uk people living in wales voted in a uk referendum end of. He doesn’t mention the Scottish people in wales that voted remain.

The one stat that does count is the 52% - 48% and you don’t like accepting that.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:17 - Sep 22 with 710 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:04 - Sep 22 by Jango

Yet when I put an opinion up on here from an expert economist from Cambridge University the other day and you shot it down. It really is laughable how ignorant you are.

There’s absolutely no way this professor knows that what he is suggesting is factual. It’s just guesswork. It’s also totally meaningless. Uk people living in wales voted in a uk referendum end of. He doesn’t mention the Scottish people in wales that voted remain.

The one stat that does count is the 52% - 48% and you don’t like accepting that.


What opinion from a relevant expert did I shoot down ?

I have never not accepted it. That’s why I’m in favour of them signing a deal. Even though a deal is laughable. Genuinely laughable. Giving up sovereignty, I believe it’s called.

But in the absence of a deal, there is no more mandate for no deal than there is for remaining.

You really do make stuff up all the time.

And of course it’s not guesswork. You are quite spectacularly deluded.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:18 - Sep 22 with 707 viewsKilkennyjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:04 - Sep 22 by Jango

Yet when I put an opinion up on here from an expert economist from Cambridge University the other day and you shot it down. It really is laughable how ignorant you are.

There’s absolutely no way this professor knows that what he is suggesting is factual. It’s just guesswork. It’s also totally meaningless. Uk people living in wales voted in a uk referendum end of. He doesn’t mention the Scottish people in wales that voted remain.

The one stat that does count is the 52% - 48% and you don’t like accepting that.


Well i guess if dickheads like you stop saying that Wales voted out in 2016, then clever people like the Prof might not need to try to explain it.

As Brexit is - at its heart - an English nationalist movement, then for working class welsh people to support it, whilst it also damages wales is a puzzle that only (an 800 year old) Stockholm Syndrome can explain.

Don't buy The Sun.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:29 - Sep 22 with 685 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:18 - Sep 22 by Kilkennyjack

Well i guess if dickheads like you stop saying that Wales voted out in 2016, then clever people like the Prof might not need to try to explain it.

As Brexit is - at its heart - an English nationalist movement, then for working class welsh people to support it, whilst it also damages wales is a puzzle that only (an 800 year old) Stockholm Syndrome can explain.

Don't buy The Sun.


I haven’t said wales voted out. I think you’ll find all the actual evidence shows that to be the case without my input. We voted as a union and leave won. I don’t think I’ve ever bought The Sun in my life. When dickheads like you stop clutching at straws then our expert professors can get on with stuff that useful.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:38 - Sep 22 with 672 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:17 - Sep 22 by londonlisa2001

What opinion from a relevant expert did I shoot down ?

I have never not accepted it. That’s why I’m in favour of them signing a deal. Even though a deal is laughable. Genuinely laughable. Giving up sovereignty, I believe it’s called.

But in the absence of a deal, there is no more mandate for no deal than there is for remaining.

You really do make stuff up all the time.

And of course it’s not guesswork. You are quite spectacularly deluded.


I haven’t made anything up Lisa. I posted an article written by an expert economist on the yellowhammer report. I also posted all of his experience and honours just as you have just done for the professor. This was your reply.

*The person writing this BS is being so disingenuous there are only two possibilities - one is that he’s a complete moron and the second is that he is deliberately lying. *
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:43 - Sep 22 with 671 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:38 - Sep 22 by Jango

I haven’t made anything up Lisa. I posted an article written by an expert economist on the yellowhammer report. I also posted all of his experience and honours just as you have just done for the professor. This was your reply.

*The person writing this BS is being so disingenuous there are only two possibilities - one is that he’s a complete moron and the second is that he is deliberately lying. *


Again, I ask, what article did you post by a relevant expert that I shot down?

Posting something from an economist writing for a pro Brexit rag pretending that the 5 pages made public is ‘yellowhammer’ and a ‘worst case’ and then criticising the report based on those falsehoods is not it.

As I said in my reply to the initial post, the bloke is lying in the article you posted. Or is a moron.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:50 - Sep 22 with 652 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:43 - Sep 22 by londonlisa2001

Again, I ask, what article did you post by a relevant expert that I shot down?

Posting something from an economist writing for a pro Brexit rag pretending that the 5 pages made public is ‘yellowhammer’ and a ‘worst case’ and then criticising the report based on those falsehoods is not it.

As I said in my reply to the initial post, the bloke is lying in the article you posted. Or is a moron.


The yellow hammer report already shown to be using remain Twitter fanatics to write the reports you mean?

Have you ever thought that people with a pro brexit opinion write for pro brexit rags because the likes of The guardian wouldn’t post them anyway? As I said, I posted this mans honours and history but your pure arrogance chose to ignore that because experts are only experts to you when you like what they have to say.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:14 - Sep 22 by karnataka

One think I do know about Wales and the EU is that West Wales receives the 2nd most money per capita from the European Regional Development Fund in the whole of the UK @ approx 1000 Euros per person by 2020 - only Cornwall would receive more. East Wales is 4th @ 370 Euros per person by 2020.

I wonder where that money will come from in the future

All those regions voted Leave which has been called Brexiting yourself in the foot.
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Thanks. So again, genuine question. What benefits does it bring to Wales leaving?

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:00 - Sep 22 with 651 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:50 - Sep 22 by Jango

The yellow hammer report already shown to be using remain Twitter fanatics to write the reports you mean?

Have you ever thought that people with a pro brexit opinion write for pro brexit rags because the likes of The guardian wouldn’t post them anyway? As I said, I posted this mans honours and history but your pure arrogance chose to ignore that because experts are only experts to you when you like what they have to say.


Yellowhammer was written by the civil service (and experts in each area) under the control of the cabinet office.

Not ‘remain twitter fanatics’.

He ma6 be an expert economist, but believe me, when he says as he does in that article, that yellowhammer is 5 pages long, and is a worst case scenario, he is lying.

You can accept that or not accept it. Your choice.

It’s farcical. You voted brexit because you thought it would be beneficial for the country. Now it’s been shown beyond any reasonable doubt that it is not beneficial to the country, you want brexit because ‘that’s what you wanted before’.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:00 - Sep 22 by londonlisa2001

Yellowhammer was written by the civil service (and experts in each area) under the control of the cabinet office.

Not ‘remain twitter fanatics’.

He ma6 be an expert economist, but believe me, when he says as he does in that article, that yellowhammer is 5 pages long, and is a worst case scenario, he is lying.

You can accept that or not accept it. Your choice.

It’s farcical. You voted brexit because you thought it would be beneficial for the country. Now it’s been shown beyond any reasonable doubt that it is not beneficial to the country, you want brexit because ‘that’s what you wanted before’.


It's just pyschotic. Arguing against these people is a waste of time. You are not going to convince them with logic, as they are way beyond cognitive evaluation of reality. But there's only about half a dozen zealots, a dozen at most, on here, and I suspect that percentage is now reflected in the general population. There's only one way to find out, now the reality is clear...and that puts it to bed.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:21 - Sep 22 with 612 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:00 - Sep 22 by londonlisa2001

Yellowhammer was written by the civil service (and experts in each area) under the control of the cabinet office.

Not ‘remain twitter fanatics’.

He ma6 be an expert economist, but believe me, when he says as he does in that article, that yellowhammer is 5 pages long, and is a worst case scenario, he is lying.

You can accept that or not accept it. Your choice.

It’s farcical. You voted brexit because you thought it would be beneficial for the country. Now it’s been shown beyond any reasonable doubt that it is not beneficial to the country, you want brexit because ‘that’s what you wanted before’.


*Yellowhammer was written by the civil service (and experts in each area) under the control of the cabinet office.*

Doctor David Nicholl was one of the experts the government used to draw up a risk register for drugs. He’s changed his name in support of remain on Twitter and has made thousands of tweets since the referendum in support of overturning brexit. If you can’t see there’s some sort of conflict of interest there then I give up. Given that he was chosen under the May Hammond government then I have no doubt the other experts and civil servants are of the same persuasion.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:21 - Sep 22 by Jango

*Yellowhammer was written by the civil service (and experts in each area) under the control of the cabinet office.*

Doctor David Nicholl was one of the experts the government used to draw up a risk register for drugs. He’s changed his name in support of remain on Twitter and has made thousands of tweets since the referendum in support of overturning brexit. If you can’t see there’s some sort of conflict of interest there then I give up. Given that he was chosen under the May Hammond government then I have no doubt the other experts and civil servants are of the same persuasion.


Madness. Genuine madness. You people are in the grip of some kind of mass delusion.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:32 - Sep 22 with 597 viewsUxbridge

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:40 - Sep 22 by exiledclaseboy

So labour’s position is to negotiate a new deal with the E.U. within three months of forming a government, then put that deal to a referendum wth remain as the other option within another three months.

But they’re not going to tell us whether they’ll campaign for the deal or for remain until that deal is negotiated. Which remarkably, sort of makes sense.


It always did make sense even if people were having a lot of fun pretending it didn't. I mean, it's not an approach that will get much support, which is a bit of a problem for the main opposition party, but it's a perfectly logical position.

It's not even in the top 3 of stupid things Labour is doing at the moment though, which is pretty impressive, if you're a fan of self-harming.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:35 - Sep 22 with 590 viewslondonlisa2001

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:21 - Sep 22 by Jango

*Yellowhammer was written by the civil service (and experts in each area) under the control of the cabinet office.*

Doctor David Nicholl was one of the experts the government used to draw up a risk register for drugs. He’s changed his name in support of remain on Twitter and has made thousands of tweets since the referendum in support of overturning brexit. If you can’t see there’s some sort of conflict of interest there then I give up. Given that he was chosen under the May Hammond government then I have no doubt the other experts and civil servants are of the same persuasion.


He has become a staunch remainer BECAUSE of the work he’s done on yellowhammer.

I love the May/Hammond government bit. The brexit Secretary was Davis Davis - Brexit supporter. Then Dominic Raab - Brexit supporter. The foreign secretary was Johnson - Brexit supporter.

You are so entrenched in your delusion you can’t see reality.

One day you will. It will be too late. I will guarantee that you won’t accept responsibility for it. You will continue to blame ‘remoaners’. Because you are completely deluded.
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It always did make sense even if people were having a lot of fun pretending it didn't. I mean, it's not an approach that will get much support, which is a bit of a problem for the main opposition party, but it's a perfectly logical position.

It's not even in the top 3 of stupid things Labour is doing at the moment though, which is pretty impressive, if you're a fan of self-harming.


I agree with you.

It makes sense to me as well.

They are saying - we understand people are for a deal and others for remain. We’ll negotiate the best deal we can and then people can choose.

But the brexit loons keep pretending it’s a ridiculous position.

Doesn’t alter the fact that the leadership are utterly insane.
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It always did make sense even if people were having a lot of fun pretending it didn't. I mean, it's not an approach that will get much support, which is a bit of a problem for the main opposition party, but it's a perfectly logical position.

It's not even in the top 3 of stupid things Labour is doing at the moment though, which is pretty impressive, if you're a fan of self-harming.


I’m not sure it’s sustainable, however, given that a huge majority of the party he leads is pro remain and he’s always committed himself to party democracy. So committed that he’s not going to allow conference a vote on it.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:37 - Sep 22 by londonlisa2001

I agree with you.

It makes sense to me as well.

They are saying - we understand people are for a deal and others for remain. We’ll negotiate the best deal we can and then people can choose.

But the brexit loons keep pretending it’s a ridiculous position.

Doesn’t alter the fact that the leadership are utterly insane.


Absolutely. Batshit bonkers. I've never seen anything like it.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:52 - Sep 22 with 549 viewsJango

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 19:35 - Sep 22 by londonlisa2001

He has become a staunch remainer BECAUSE of the work he’s done on yellowhammer.

I love the May/Hammond government bit. The brexit Secretary was Davis Davis - Brexit supporter. Then Dominic Raab - Brexit supporter. The foreign secretary was Johnson - Brexit supporter.

You are so entrenched in your delusion you can’t see reality.

One day you will. It will be too late. I will guarantee that you won’t accept responsibility for it. You will continue to blame ‘remoaners’. Because you are completely deluded.


I love the May/Hammond government bit. The brexit Secretary was Davis Davis - Brexit supporter. Then Dominic Raab - Brexit supporter. The foreign secretary was Johnson - Brexit supporter.

Yet it’s ok for you to now suggest that Dominic Cummings is pulling all the strings for the current government.


He has become a staunch remainer BECAUSE of the work he’s done on yellowhammer.

Nonsense. He’s admitted otherwise himself.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 21:22 - Sep 22 with 515 viewsKilkennyjack

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:50 - Sep 22 by waynekerr55

Thanks. So again, genuine question. What benefits does it bring to Wales leaving?


There are none.

96% of people living in Wales were born in the uk, so not even mass immigration to scare people. Its unfathomable, save the BBC and MSM pushing Brexit and Farage.

Wales the poorest part of the EU just 3 hours from the richest part. Thats not cos Westmonster cant help, its that it wont help. As Eddie Butler says the old union is dead - and ‘nothing good’ will flow from London.

The EU gave Wales huge grants to help level the pitch. It should embarrass Westmonster for that to be the case. 60% of Welsh exports go to the EU.

When Scotland and the north of Ireland feck off then we are doomed.

IndyWales is the only answer.

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😂😂

Is the professor of Geography at Oxford really an expert on this? Load of crap. I don’t think many wealthy English people retired and moved to the valleys.


I don’t think many wealthy English people retired and moved to the valleys, but I do think they are retiring and moving to places like Pembrokeshire, Carmarthenshire, Ceredigion, Powys, Gower and the area around Cardiff.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 06:46 - Sep 23 with 373 viewsKilkennyjack



This posh tw@@t thinks he is untouchable.
And little toad Alun Cairns still thinks johnson is a friend of Wales.

Lock him up.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 06:46 - Sep 23 by Kilkennyjack



This posh tw@@t thinks he is untouchable.
And little toad Alun Cairns still thinks johnson is a friend of Wales.

Lock him up.


The disgusting lump of fat Tory crud has got a long way to go to catch up to his hero President Chump in the sleaze and corruption stakes but, fair play, he's having a good go.
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The disgusting lump of fat Tory crud has got a long way to go to catch up to his hero President Chump in the sleaze and corruption stakes but, fair play, he's having a good go.
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I’m not sticking up for them but it’s always been thus. We’ve tolerated a low level of corruption in the uk. I still remember Wilson and Lord Gannex. And just look at May, or anyone’s honours list. It’s a scandal every time. In the US, Clinton was a bad un. In fact Carter was probably the last ‘straight up’ man to inhabit the Oval Office.

That said, at least there was an expectation of competence and general integrity. This bunch on both sides have blown that to hell and back, and Johnson is way beyond parody.

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I’m not sticking up for them but it’s always been thus. We’ve tolerated a low level of corruption in the uk. I still remember Wilson and Lord Gannex. And just look at May, or anyone’s honours list. It’s a scandal every time. In the US, Clinton was a bad un. In fact Carter was probably the last ‘straight up’ man to inhabit the Oval Office.

That said, at least there was an expectation of competence and general integrity. This bunch on both sides have blown that to hell and back, and Johnson is way beyond parody.


At any other time in history, this would be a resignation matter. The threshold is simply ignored now. That probably depresses me more than every other bit of nonsense going on.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 09:59 - Sep 23 by Uxbridge

At any other time in history, this would be a resignation matter. The threshold is simply ignored now. That probably depresses me more than every other bit of nonsense going on.


Not that I've got much time for Corbyn, but he's absolutely right what he said after the Andrew Marr show. The Tory establishment are closing ranks to protect him, not least the media. Marr had Raab on after Corbyn with a live interview - not one mention of this developing scandal. As you say, in times past, a resigning matter - giving public funds to one of your sh*g bunnies (allegedly, my arse).
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