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The wait was well worth it. 23:28 - Nov 10 with 1421383 viewspikeypaul



And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

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The wait was well worth it. on 21:17 - Feb 24 with 914 viewssherpajacob

The wait was well worth it. on 20:56 - Feb 24 by Flashberryjack

Ah! I see
Parliament legislated in 2018 to repeal the 1972 Act, and in 2020 the United Kingdom ceased to be a member of the EU in accordance with and by virtue of that Act (albeit amended by further legislation of Parliament), demonstrating that the previous Parliament (of 1972) had not bound its successor.

So parliament wasn't Sovereign from 1972 until after the referendum in 2018.


Parliament could have voted at any time subsequent to the 1972 act to repeal it., because it has been sovereign the entire time.

If UKip had won a general election, we would have left without the need for a referendum, because of parliamentary sovereignty.

Just be grateful that thanks to people like Dominic Cummings, Matthew Elliot and Zac Goldsmith the UK is no longer run by unelected bureaucrats.

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The wait was well worth it. on 21:25 - Feb 24 with 896 viewsFlashberryjack

The wait was well worth it. on 21:17 - Feb 24 by sherpajacob

Parliament could have voted at any time subsequent to the 1972 act to repeal it., because it has been sovereign the entire time.

If UKip had won a general election, we would have left without the need for a referendum, because of parliamentary sovereignty.

Just be grateful that thanks to people like Dominic Cummings, Matthew Elliot and Zac Goldsmith the UK is no longer run by unelected bureaucrats.


"Parliament could have voted at any time subsequent to the 1972 act to repeal it., because it has been sovereign the entire time."

Yes of course they could have, but would the EU have still allowed our membership ?

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The wait was well worth it. on 21:33 - Feb 24 with 884 viewsCatullus

The wait was well worth it. on 21:17 - Feb 24 by sherpajacob

Parliament could have voted at any time subsequent to the 1972 act to repeal it., because it has been sovereign the entire time.

If UKip had won a general election, we would have left without the need for a referendum, because of parliamentary sovereignty.

Just be grateful that thanks to people like Dominic Cummings, Matthew Elliot and Zac Goldsmith the UK is no longer run by unelected bureaucrats.


Do you mean unelected bureaucrats or unelected politicians? Bojo, love him or hate him was elected (eventually) as was May but how many of the electorate ever voted for an EU President?
Groundhog day again.

It all comes down to opinion and your own personal perspective I guess but (like many others) I don't think that any Parliament that is legally bound to follow rules laid down by a supranational organisation is sovereign, once we have left, properly left that is, not this halfway house, then we will be fully sovereign again.
Even political experts disagree on what sovereignty means but by this definition https://www.britannica.com/topic/sovereignty the EU being the ultimate overseer means Westminster is not sovereign, not doubt you disagree, as you are entitled to do.

It really is time to stop this nonsense. This thread should expire, should be an ex thread.

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The wait was well worth it. on 21:50 - Feb 24 with 865 viewsWarwickHunt

The wait was well worth it. on 21:33 - Feb 24 by Catullus

Do you mean unelected bureaucrats or unelected politicians? Bojo, love him or hate him was elected (eventually) as was May but how many of the electorate ever voted for an EU President?
Groundhog day again.

It all comes down to opinion and your own personal perspective I guess but (like many others) I don't think that any Parliament that is legally bound to follow rules laid down by a supranational organisation is sovereign, once we have left, properly left that is, not this halfway house, then we will be fully sovereign again.
Even political experts disagree on what sovereignty means but by this definition https://www.britannica.com/topic/sovereignty the EU being the ultimate overseer means Westminster is not sovereign, not doubt you disagree, as you are entitled to do.

It really is time to stop this nonsense. This thread should expire, should be an ex thread.


3-2-1...it’s Catullas on... yep, sovereignty!

Still not getting it. 😂
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The wait was well worth it. on 22:43 - Feb 24 with 834 viewsKilkennyjack

The wait was well worth it. on 21:33 - Feb 24 by Catullus

Do you mean unelected bureaucrats or unelected politicians? Bojo, love him or hate him was elected (eventually) as was May but how many of the electorate ever voted for an EU President?
Groundhog day again.

It all comes down to opinion and your own personal perspective I guess but (like many others) I don't think that any Parliament that is legally bound to follow rules laid down by a supranational organisation is sovereign, once we have left, properly left that is, not this halfway house, then we will be fully sovereign again.
Even political experts disagree on what sovereignty means but by this definition https://www.britannica.com/topic/sovereignty the EU being the ultimate overseer means Westminster is not sovereign, not doubt you disagree, as you are entitled to do.

It really is time to stop this nonsense. This thread should expire, should be an ex thread.


If you are using the President of the EU as the example, then its fair to say none of us voted for PM May, nor PM Johmson.

Does your logic also apply to the nation of Wales ?
Sure to ... right ?

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The wait was well worth it. on 07:43 - Feb 25 with 777 viewslonglostjack

The wait was well worth it. on 21:50 - Feb 24 by WarwickHunt

3-2-1...it’s Catullas on... yep, sovereignty!

Still not getting it. 😂


We’ll get our sovereignty back now that we’ve exercised our sovereignty and decided to leave. The future is going to be brilliant too, Boris said so.

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The wait was well worth it. on 08:18 - Feb 25 with 772 viewsfelixstowe_jack

The wait was well worth it. on 22:43 - Feb 24 by Kilkennyjack

If you are using the President of the EU as the example, then its fair to say none of us voted for PM May, nor PM Johmson.

Does your logic also apply to the nation of Wales ?
Sure to ... right ?


Your logic is flawed our Prime Minister is selected from our elected MPs.
As you know the EU President is not an elected MEP but is appointed after horse trading by the 27 EU countries. Their name is then proposed to the EU parliament and in one horse race was voted in by just getting over 50% of the vote.
The electorate of the EU cannot vote the president in or out of office hardly democratic.

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The wait was well worth it. on 09:53 - Feb 25 with 743 viewsCatullus

The wait was well worth it. on 22:43 - Feb 24 by Kilkennyjack

If you are using the President of the EU as the example, then its fair to say none of us voted for PM May, nor PM Johmson.

Does your logic also apply to the nation of Wales ?
Sure to ... right ?


May and Johnson were elected MP's and both had to face a general election, Von der Leyen wasn't even a candidate originally but still got made President, even then she only scraped over the bar.

Kilk, you often use voting percentages to say the majority didn't choose something, well usually you say something like 58% didn't vote (insert whatever) well in the Welsh elections, how many didn't vote for Labour, well for anybody in fact....54%. Does that make the government illegitimate? Of those who voted Labour got 34.7% of the vote that amounts to around 503,000 in a country of over 3.2 million, Plaid got around 300,000 votes. Hardly a stonking mandate!

But yes, at least the Welsh first minister is elected by the people even though Drakeford hasn't yet faced an election as leader.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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The wait was well worth it. on 10:27 - Feb 25 with 734 viewsHighjack

The wait was well worth it. on 09:53 - Feb 25 by Catullus

May and Johnson were elected MP's and both had to face a general election, Von der Leyen wasn't even a candidate originally but still got made President, even then she only scraped over the bar.

Kilk, you often use voting percentages to say the majority didn't choose something, well usually you say something like 58% didn't vote (insert whatever) well in the Welsh elections, how many didn't vote for Labour, well for anybody in fact....54%. Does that make the government illegitimate? Of those who voted Labour got 34.7% of the vote that amounts to around 503,000 in a country of over 3.2 million, Plaid got around 300,000 votes. Hardly a stonking mandate!

But yes, at least the Welsh first minister is elected by the people even though Drakeford hasn't yet faced an election as leader.


Drakeford doesn’t need an election. He’s been ordained on raw animal magnetism and sheer force of will.

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The wait was well worth it. on 10:42 - Feb 25 with 728 viewsWarwickHunt

The wait was well worth it. on 08:18 - Feb 25 by felixstowe_jack

Your logic is flawed our Prime Minister is selected from our elected MPs.
As you know the EU President is not an elected MEP but is appointed after horse trading by the 27 EU countries. Their name is then proposed to the EU parliament and in one horse race was voted in by just getting over 50% of the vote.
The electorate of the EU cannot vote the president in or out of office hardly democratic.


There’s no such thing as the President of the EU. 😂
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The wait was well worth it. on 10:43 - Feb 25 with 725 viewsHighjack

The wait was well worth it. on 10:42 - Feb 25 by WarwickHunt

There’s no such thing as the President of the EU. 😂


No there’s about twelve of them.

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The wait was well worth it. on 12:03 - Feb 25 with 702 viewsfelixstowe_jack

The wait was well worth it. on 10:42 - Feb 25 by WarwickHunt

There’s no such thing as the President of the EU. 😂


President of the EU Commission if you want to be pedantic. The EU commissioners all 27 of them run the EU as you well know. The EU parliament just rubber stamp their decisions. Even when the parliament votes to reject their budget or accounts they just carry on anyway.

The EU Commission is the executive branch of the EU
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The wait was well worth it. on 17:16 - Feb 25 with 647 viewsLeonWasGod

The wait was well worth it. on 10:43 - Feb 25 by Highjack

No there’s about twelve of them.


Arte you getting confused with prostitutes? There's loads of them, especially hanging around the hotels along Boulevard Waterloo.
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The wait was well worth it. on 17:18 - Feb 25 with 643 viewsLeonWasGod

The wait was well worth it. on 12:03 - Feb 25 by felixstowe_jack

President of the EU Commission if you want to be pedantic. The EU commissioners all 27 of them run the EU as you well know. The EU parliament just rubber stamp their decisions. Even when the parliament votes to reject their budget or accounts they just carry on anyway.

The EU Commission is the executive branch of the EU
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You wouldn't get unelected bureaucrats running the show in this great country.
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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 18:27 - Feb 25 with 617 viewspikeypaul

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:47 - Sep 29 by Pegojack

I'm beginning to think the only way to take the caant down is a vote of no confidence very soon. That may be what he wants, but he'll test/break the law or try some other slippery manouver else.
Crunch time coming for Swansong. Put up or shut up. Forever.


Another hilarious post from a remoaner, loser,who has been shown to be a clueless mug.

BOJO "put up" called a GE and slaughtered Corbyn and Got Brexit done and now with a huge majority will do what he and the majority of the country wants.

So happy fecking days are here again.


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The wait was well worth it. on 18:28 - Feb 25 with 614 viewsFlashberryjack

The wait was well worth it. on 09:53 - Feb 25 by Catullus

May and Johnson were elected MP's and both had to face a general election, Von der Leyen wasn't even a candidate originally but still got made President, even then she only scraped over the bar.

Kilk, you often use voting percentages to say the majority didn't choose something, well usually you say something like 58% didn't vote (insert whatever) well in the Welsh elections, how many didn't vote for Labour, well for anybody in fact....54%. Does that make the government illegitimate? Of those who voted Labour got 34.7% of the vote that amounts to around 503,000 in a country of over 3.2 million, Plaid got around 300,000 votes. Hardly a stonking mandate!

But yes, at least the Welsh first minister is elected by the people even though Drakeford hasn't yet faced an election as leader.


"Drakeford hasn't yet faced an election as leader"

With a bit of luck he'll be out on his lughole when he does.

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The wait was well worth it. on 18:28 - Feb 25 by Flashberryjack

"Drakeford hasn't yet faced an election as leader"

With a bit of luck he'll be out on his lughole when he does.


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The wait was well worth it. on 12:55 - Mar 2 with 467 viewsJango

Bookies now taking odds on what continent we’ll be joining next. Bless em.

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The wait was well worth it. on 14:16 - Mar 2 with 427 viewsHighjack

The wait was well worth it. on 12:55 - Mar 2 by Jango

Bookies now taking odds on what continent we’ll be joining next. Bless em.



Someone should tell that silly bugger we aren’t leaving Europe. As deputy editor she should know that, especially if she is experienced enough to have been on the ground during the fall of the Paris commune in 1871.

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The wait was well worth it. on 11:22 - Mar 3 with 343 viewsCatullus

The wait was well worth it. on 14:16 - Mar 2 by Highjack

Someone should tell that silly bugger we aren’t leaving Europe. As deputy editor she should know that, especially if she is experienced enough to have been on the ground during the fall of the Paris commune in 1871.


Remember the old animated tv advert about stopping on yellow grid, the giant hand looms....and day now the giand hand is coming, it's going to pluck the UK out of the sea and drop us off.. somewhere!

Leaving Europe no, leaving the EU yes.

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The wait was well worth it. on 17:16 - Mar 3 with 293 viewswaynekerr55

The wait was well worth it. on 14:16 - Mar 2 by Highjack

Someone should tell that silly bugger we aren’t leaving Europe. As deputy editor she should know that, especially if she is experienced enough to have been on the ground during the fall of the Paris commune in 1871.


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The wait was well worth it. on 17:43 - Mar 3 with 281 viewsLeonWasGod

The wait was well worth it. on 12:55 - Mar 2 by Jango

Bookies now taking odds on what continent we’ll be joining next. Bless em.



If you read beyond the headline it’s pretty obvious what she’s on about, even if it is a lame pointless piece. Besides, using the EU instead of Europe in the headline wouldn’t make any sense.

A strange thing for people to get worked up over.
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The wait was well worth it. on 17:47 - Mar 3 with 274 viewsFlashberryjack

The wait was well worth it. on 17:43 - Mar 3 by LeonWasGod

If you read beyond the headline it’s pretty obvious what she’s on about, even if it is a lame pointless piece. Besides, using the EU instead of Europe in the headline wouldn’t make any sense.

A strange thing for people to get worked up over.


Who's getting worked up ?

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The wait was well worth it. on 17:55 - Mar 3 with 256 viewsLeonWasGod

The wait was well worth it. on 17:47 - Mar 3 by Flashberryjack

Who's getting worked up ?


It seems to be bothering people enough for them to take to Twitter. Just a bit strange. I’m sure the writer knows the difference between the EU and Europe (headline may not even have been written by her).
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The wait was well worth it. on 18:00 - Mar 3 with 246 viewsHighjack

The wait was well worth it. on 17:55 - Mar 3 by LeonWasGod

It seems to be bothering people enough for them to take to Twitter. Just a bit strange. I’m sure the writer knows the difference between the EU and Europe (headline may not even have been written by her).


She clearly doesn’t. You can still love and be deeply entwined with Europe and it’s people, history and culture without being in some half arsed political union with them.

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