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1:19 pm today was the exact mid point from when the result that the Great British public had decided to leave the EU and the time 11pm March 29th 2019 that Democracy will be delivered.

Happy days.
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The Countdown begins. on 19:28 - Jul 11 with 1547 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 18:58 - Jul 11 by Gowerjack

Get your ration books ready..

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6747231/ministers-plan-to-stockpile-processed-food


Still at least we'll have blue passports eh.
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Will Tesco be stocking powdered egg and whale meat ?

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The Countdown begins. on 20:01 - Jul 11 with 1520 viewsGowerjack

And that self serving fûckwit Johnson wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the arse..

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-boris-johnson-lied-about-eu-sa


You've been conned by a bunch of posh boys.

Tug your forelocks brexiteers...

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The Countdown begins. on 22:49 - Jul 11 with 1494 viewsKilkennyjack

The Countdown begins. on 20:01 - Jul 11 by Gowerjack

And that self serving fûckwit Johnson wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the arse..

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-boris-johnson-lied-about-eu-sa


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Nicely put.

Very true.

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The Countdown begins. on 23:49 - Jul 11 with 1464 viewsJango

Having a lovely time in Mexico but thought I’d check in. Still quite alarming to see the amount of remainers that are happy to see our country get an awful deal just so that brexit isn’t deemed a success. What a strange and sad bunch of people.
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The Countdown begins. on 07:48 - Jul 12 with 1403 viewspikeypaul

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The Countdown begins. on 07:51 - Jul 12 with 1398 viewsShaky


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Having a lovely time in Mexico but thought I’d check in. Still quite alarming to see the amount of remainers that are happy to see our country get an awful deal just so that brexit isn’t deemed a success. What a strange and sad bunch of people.


You don't appear to be very skilled in understanding what people say on here.

Although as you are in favour of Brexit perhaps I shoudnt be surprised at your lack of acuity.

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The Countdown begins. on 08:10 - Jul 12 with 1381 viewsShaky

The Countdown begins. on 23:49 - Jul 11 by Jango

Having a lovely time in Mexico but thought I’d check in. Still quite alarming to see the amount of remainers that are happy to see our country get an awful deal just so that brexit isn’t deemed a success. What a strange and sad bunch of people.


You've gone off message while away.

The debate is no longer about whether Brexit is any god or not, because it is quite clearly the latter to put it mildly.

Instead it is now about doing what we said we would do 2 years ago, but not in 1975 or probably at any point before or after that precise moment in time.

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The Countdown begins. on 08:31 - Jul 12 with 1356 viewsShaky

Yes, we should all get over it and turn back the clock to a simpler and happier time when the expansive lies and grandiose empty promises of the dishonest/moronic** (delete as appropriate) Brexiters were ringing freshly in our hopeful ears.

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David Davis’ trade deal fantasies
by Sam Ashworth-Hayes |

19.07.2016
As chief Brexit negotiator, David Davis is entitled to be optimistic about our prospects. But when he told Sky’s Dermot Murnaghan Britain will get “a very, very large trade area, much bigger than the European Union, probably ten times the size” he veered into make-believe. A trade area that large would be twice the size of the global economy.

Davis’ office explained his comments to InFacts by saying he “was referring to a negotiated trade area. The EU has negotiated trade deals with countries whose total GDP is around $8 trillion… If we get new trade deals with just the US and China then we would have trade deals with economies valued at almost $30 trillion. And at the same time of course we will also be seeking deals with Hong Kong, Canada, Australia, India, Japan, Indonesia – and many others.”

Even without this hang-up, Davis’ vision of his colleague, the trade secretary Liam Fox, “going around the world… making trade deals, huge trade deals all over the place” neglects some practical difficulties. The UK has around 20 active trade negotiators, a new deal with the EU to sort out, and existing trade deals with over 50 countries to replace.

To suggest as Davis has that we will leave to find “fully negotiated” deals with multiple new nations awaiting us is naïve. Davis’ office told InFacts: “Given the time taken for other single countries to negotiate trade deals, this ambition appears to be in line with global precedents (see Chile, Switzerland, South Korea, Singapore).”

In a similar vein, Davis appears to have promised rather more from a deal with the EU than can realistically be delivered. The minister says that “once the European nations realise we will not budge on control of our borders, they will want to talk”, paving the way for single market access without free movement. It would be “irrational” if they didn’t.

The reality is that it would be irrational if they did. Though it would not be in the EU’s interests to punish Britain unfairly, offering the UK a sweetheart deal would encourage eurosceptics in other nations. France’s Front National, for instance, would be emboldened in its calls to end free movement. Other countries looking to relieve themselves of burdensome commitments could threaten to quit the bloc unless they too got special treatment.

Even without these incentives, the EU may not be in the mood to do Britain any favours if the UK adopts Davis’ advice of negotiating free trade deals with other countries before we leave. As an EU member state, we are not allowed to negotiate free trade deals. But, according to Davis’ office, “the spirit of EU rules governing trade negotiations is not that countries exiting the EU should be prohibited from negotiating new deals in expectation of that exit – there is clearly no such intention within the rules.”

Davis may be jumping the gun. But whether or not these rules apply to us after we begin the process of leaving is up for unclear, according to Steve Peers, law professor at Essex University.

Finally, Davis feels we might still get a special deal because “everyone knows the balance of trade is in Europe’s favour”. It is true that the EU sells more to us than we sell to it, but that tells us nothing about who benefits more from the trade.

In short, the EU has no incentive to give us a deal that preserves our current level of access to the single market, with no commitment to free movement. At the same time, we are not well placed to arrange new trade deals to cushion our departure from the bloc.

Edited by Hugo Dixon

https://infacts.org/david-davis-trade-deal-fantasies/

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The Countdown begins. on 11:13 - Jul 12 with 1316 viewsShaky

Good news trade fans, here's what Britain's post-Brexit future looks like:
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UK-India trade review calls for flexibility on food standards and chemical rules
Confidential document details complaints over EU rules on imports such as rice and paneer ahead of prospective post-Brexit trade talks
By Zach Boren

The UK should be prepared to relax EU rules on food standards and chemical safety as part of a new trading relationship with India, according to an unreleased report by the British and Indian governments.

https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2018/07/12/brexit-uk-india-trade-review-out-of-

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Paul Joseph Watson is brilliant!
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John Cleese is leaving the UK


Also Nigel Farage may re-run for UKIP leadership if Brexit is not delivered by 2019!
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The Countdown begins. on 13:17 - Jul 12 with 1259 viewsHighjack

I thought Cleese had left the U.K. decades ago.

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The Countdown begins. on 13:43 - Jul 12 with 1248 viewscwm02

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I thought Cleese had left the U.K. decades ago.


Well apparently not but he's planning to leave the UK for the Caribbean.
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The Countdown begins. on 13:51 - Jul 12 with 1232 viewsHighjack

The Countdown begins. on 13:43 - Jul 12 by cwm02

Well apparently not but he's planning to leave the UK for the Caribbean.


Why would anybody want to leave the UK for the Caribbean. He’s going to be stuck on a beach somewhere with lots of scantily clad beauties sipping an ice cold drink in the scorching sun. Who the hell would do that? The guy must be mad.

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The Countdown begins. on 05:59 - Jul 13 with 1126 viewspikeypaul

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The Countdown begins. on 20:01 - Jul 11 by Gowerjack

And that self serving fûckwit Johnson wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the arse..

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-boris-johnson-lied-about-eu-sa


You've been conned by a bunch of posh boys.

Tug your forelocks brexiteers...


But he was only the Foreign Secretary in the cabinet of the UK's government. So you wouldn't expect him to know about foreign stuff and British laws and all that sort of piffling claptrap.
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The Countdown begins. on 09:26 - Jul 13 with 1082 viewsShaky

Trump says Brexit blueprint likely to ‘kill’ any UK-US trade deal
President criticises Theresa May’s handling of EU negotiations as ‘unfortunate’
By Henry Mance and Demetri Sevastopulo in London 6 hours ago

FT, 13 July 2018

US President Donald Trump has begun his first official visit to Britain with an undiplomatic barrage against Prime Minister Theresa May, saying her Brexit blueprint “will probably kill” any bilateral trade deal between the two allies.

“If they do a deal like that, we would be dealing with the EU instead of dealing with the UK, so it will probably kill the deal,” Mr Trump told the Sun newspaper. Mr Trump also criticised her handling of the Brexit talks as “very unfortunate”.

In a comment that will be unwelcome in Downing Street, he said Boris Johnson “would be a great prime minister”. On Monday, Mr Johnson resigned as foreign secretary in protest at the Brexit plan and could yet launch a leadership challenge to Mrs May.

The comments are embarrassing for Mrs May, who faces huge political criticism for hosting Mr Trump in Britain, where he arrived on Thursday on a three-day visit. Mr Trump and his officials had frequently said that the UK would have priority in terms of a trade deal once the conditions of its departure from the EU allowed for negotiations.

“It is not the act of an ally or special relationship,” Thomas Wright, a foreign policy expert at the Brookings Institution, said of Mr Trump’s comments. “It is a predatory policy towards Brexit Britain that is designed to take advantage of their vulnerability and need for trade deals.”

Mr Wright said that relations between the US and UK “are now at their worst point since the Suez crisis”, referring to the 1956 hostilities between Egypt and Britain and its allies over nationalisation of the Suez Canal.

Mr Trump’s remarks were an unprecedented intervention that critics said undermined the British prime minister. In 2016, then president Barack Obama came under fire for intervening in the Brexit debate during a visit to the UK three weeks before the vote.

After Mr Obama said the UK would go to “the back of the queue” for trade deals if it left the EU, Nigel Farage, the pro-Brexit politician, accused him of “talking down Britain”. But Mr Wright said that while Mr Obama had been invited to intervene by David Cameron, then prime minister, Mr Trump was challenging the current leader of Britain.

Mr Trump’s dramatic comments in Britain followed a tense two-day Nato summit in Brussels where the US president stunned his fellow Nato leaders with a string of attacks on US allies, and particularly Germany and Angela Merkel, its chancellor.

“I am sure this infuriates almost everybody in Britain,” said Gary Hufbauer, a trade expert at the Peterson Institute for International Economics. “He has managed to step on more toes in his brief trip to the UK, which was supposed to be a love-in after Nato.”

Mr Hufbauer said there were political and technical dimensions to Mr Trump’s move. He said that while the soft Brexit proposed by Mrs May would limit some elements of a possible UK-US trade deal, there were plenty of areas where a deal could be struck. “I don’t think it is such a lockout as Trump said that ‘it is either us or them’.”

The prospect of a speedy trade deal had been a significant factor in Mrs May’s decision to invite Mr Trump to the UK. At a dinner on Thursday night at Blenheim Palace, she again tried to push the matter, heralding the opportunity “to tear down the bureaucratic barriers that frustrate business leaders on both sides of the Atlantic”.

She tried to woo Mr Trump by quoting Winston Churchill, the former UK leader whose bust Mr Trump returned to the Oval Office, and by pointing out that 1m Americans work for British companies in the US.

After the dinner and the publication of the Sun interview, Liam Fox, UK trade secretary, wrote on Twitter: “Terrific to hear @POTUS@realDonaldTrump talk so positively about UK & US Trade tonight at Blenheim Palace.”

Mrs May concedes that her Brexit plan, which involves continuing alignment with EU rules on goods, would restrict the scope for trade deals. But a government white paper on Thursday said that, after leaving the EU, Britain could still “strike new trade deals around the world, in particular breaking new ground for agreements in services”.

In another unwelcome remark for Mrs May, Mr Trump said he agreed with Mr Johnson’s desire for a hard negotiating line with the EU. “I would have done it much differently. I actually told Theresa May how to do it but she didn’t agree, she didn’t listen to me.”

He told the Sun that “she probably went the opposite way” and that “the deal she is striking is a much ­different deal than the one the people voted on”.

Sarah Sanders, the White House press secretary, played down the criticisms of the British leader in the Sun interview, saying Mr Trump “likes and respects Prime Minister May very much”.

“As he said in his interview with the Sun she ‘is a very good person’ and he ‘never said anything bad about her’. He thought she was great on Nato. and is a really terrific person,” Ms Sanders said. “He is thankful for the wonderful welcome from the prime minister here in the UK.”

Mr Trump’s comments also differed from remarks he made earlier on Thursday at Nato where he said it was “not for me to say” if Mrs May was taking the correct approach.

Asked at Nato whether he thought the UK should pursue a hard Brexit, Mr Trump said: “Brexit is Brexit . . . The people voted to break it up, so I would imagine that’s what they’ll do, but maybe they’re taking it a little bit of a different route. So, I don’t know if that’s what they voted for. I just want the people to be happy.”

The drama on Thursday came on the heels of comments earlier this week where Mr Trump said the UK was in “turmoil”, following the resignation of Mr Johnson and David Davis, another cabinet member. He also suggested that he might speak to his “friend” Mr Johnson during his visit.

In his Sun interview, Mr Trump also renewed his attacks on Sadiq Khan, London’s first Muslim mayor, who he said had done a “very bad job on terrorism”. As Mr Trump prepared to arrive in the UK, Mr Khan urged protesters to avoid violence while at the same time offering an indirect criticism of the American president.

“Having a special relationship means that we expect the highest standards from each other, and it also means speaking out when we think the values we hold dear are under threat,” Mr Khan said.

On Friday, tens of thousands of Britons are expected to march in protest at Mr Trump. A large “Human Rights Nightmare” banner has been unfurled by Amnesty International activists across the river Thames on Vauxhall Bridge in London.

At the Nato news conference, however, Mr Trump said, “I think they like me a lot in the UK.” A recent YouGov poll found that Mr Trump’s favourability rating in the UK was minus 60.

He will hold talks with Mrs May and Jeremy Hunt, the new UK foreign secretary, on Friday morning. He is expected to hold a joint press conference with Mrs May shortly after lunch — an event where they will both be pressed on his trade comments.

https://www.ft.com/content/0656f3c2-85d7-11e8-a29d-73e3d454535d

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The Countdown begins. on 09:29 - Jul 13 with 1079 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 19:28 - Jul 11 by longlostjack

Will Tesco be stocking powdered egg and whale meat ?


Whale meat again, don’t know where, don’t know when...
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The Countdown begins. on 09:31 - Jul 13 with 1078 viewsShaky

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Whale meat again, don’t know where, don’t know when...


Nothing wrong with whale meat.

I once nearly burnt down a cabin cooking whale meat in Norway, where it is considered a delicacy.

Admittedly so were their strange diabetic ice-creams.

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The Countdown begins. on 09:35 - Jul 13 with 1073 viewsShaky

BTW Trump is absolutely right about the government white paper killing off the prospects of a UK-US free trade deal, since regulatory alignment on agriculture with the EU means the US is unable to ram the GMO foods and chlorinated chicken down our throats they would always insist on.

Thank fcuk for that.
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The Countdown begins. on 09:35 - Jul 13 by Shaky

BTW Trump is absolutely right about the government white paper killing off the prospects of a UK-US free trade deal, since regulatory alignment on agriculture with the EU means the US is unable to ram the GMO foods and chlorinated chicken down our throats they would always insist on.

Thank fcuk for that.
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80% of our economy is services related, why doesn't Trump want a trade deal on these?
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The Countdown begins. on 10:28 - Jul 13 with 1038 viewsShaky

The Countdown begins. on 10:15 - Jul 13 by Batterseajack

80% of our economy is services related, why doesn't Trump want a trade deal on these?


Last I looked it is a little less than that, but at the same time services comprises a bigger share of US GDP!

However, the agricultural lobby is very powerful in the sparsely populated redneck states that comprise the heartland of Trump's base.

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