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Done up like Kippers 21:55 - Nov 28 with 3240 viewsmax936

The Tory Government yet again fuk my eyes

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/uk-and-eu-agree-brexit-divorce-bill-that-c

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Done up like Kippers on 11:10 - Nov 29 with 592 viewslonglostjack

Done up like Kippers on 10:24 - Nov 29 by Batterseajack

I honestly don't think leavers minds have changed that much. Seems like peoples minds just become more entrenched.


I'm not sure about that. I talked to two leavers last week who would definitely vote to remain if there was another vote. I wouldn't imagine many remainers changing their mind.

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Done up like Kippers on 12:18 - Nov 29 with 565 viewsBatterseajack

Done up like Kippers on 11:10 - Nov 29 by longlostjack

I'm not sure about that. I talked to two leavers last week who would definitely vote to remain if there was another vote. I wouldn't imagine many remainers changing their mind.


In fairness, Leavers won by a slim margin so it wouldn't take much to swing it back. But the only way a second referendum result would ever be accepted by the public is if Leave won by a huge landslide majority, which i can't see happening no matter how deep in the sh!t we end up at the time of a second referendum.
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Done up like Kippers on 12:50 - Nov 29 with 545 viewswhoflungdung

My opinion is we have voted for economic suicide and its becoming ever more evident that will be the scenario for this country.
People, seemingly, believe we still call the shots, still have a massive "empire" and have trading links worldwide that we can call on rather than deal with Eyeties,Frogs,Clogs and the Degos . WELL, WE HAVENT .

We are no special case and we don't have the trading links with OZ and NZ whose major trading partner is CHINA along with other in the East.

Why doesn't Jez, a lifelong anti marketer show some morality and go along with what he believes rather than what will give him Power. He should be demanding a second referendum. These extraordinary times deserve it.

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Done up like Kippers on 13:06 - Nov 29 with 536 viewsBatterseajack

Done up like Kippers on 12:50 - Nov 29 by whoflungdung

My opinion is we have voted for economic suicide and its becoming ever more evident that will be the scenario for this country.
People, seemingly, believe we still call the shots, still have a massive "empire" and have trading links worldwide that we can call on rather than deal with Eyeties,Frogs,Clogs and the Degos . WELL, WE HAVENT .

We are no special case and we don't have the trading links with OZ and NZ whose major trading partner is CHINA along with other in the East.

Why doesn't Jez, a lifelong anti marketer show some morality and go along with what he believes rather than what will give him Power. He should be demanding a second referendum. These extraordinary times deserve it.


Trouble with Labour is that their supporters in the north were largely Brexit supporters. So to go against their wishes will decimate Labours dwindling support even further and could well be the end of Labour all together.
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Done up like Kippers on 13:14 - Nov 29 with 526 viewswhoflungdung

And does it not show the hypocrisy of our politicians who seek power for power sake.

Corbyn is as responsible as Cameron for this.

Christ, even Swansea would have voted to remain if Jez had said.

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Done up like Kippers on 14:03 - Nov 29 with 504 viewsBatterseajack

Done up like Kippers on 13:14 - Nov 29 by whoflungdung

And does it not show the hypocrisy of our politicians who seek power for power sake.

Corbyn is as responsible as Cameron for this.

Christ, even Swansea would have voted to remain if Jez had said.


But Corbyn did support remain during the referendum. Maybe not as emphatically as some (myself included) would have hoped. However, he had his own Labour leadership issues to deal with at the time, constantly reacting to party members trying to topple him or stab him in the back. On top of that, the whole referendum had the air of an inter-conservative battle about it and nobody ever thought leave would actually win at any point.
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Done up like Kippers on 14:03 - Nov 29 with 504 viewslonglostjack

Done up like Kippers on 13:14 - Nov 29 by whoflungdung

And does it not show the hypocrisy of our politicians who seek power for power sake.

Corbyn is as responsible as Cameron for this.

Christ, even Swansea would have voted to remain if Jez had said.


No way is Jez as culpable as Cameron - who let the dogs out ???
Jez does seem to cling to a seventies type notion that the EU is a capitalist club though while the Tory loons see the EU as promoting backdoor socialism and preventing their dream of creating an offshore Delaware casino. All very sad.
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Done up like Kippers on 14:19 - Nov 29 with 487 viewsBatterseajack

Remember when the EU could "go whistle" over this divorce bill. We really are led by a bunch of charlatans.
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Done up like Kippers on 14:52 - Nov 29 with 468 viewsWarwickHunt

Done up like Kippers on 14:03 - Nov 29 by Batterseajack

But Corbyn did support remain during the referendum. Maybe not as emphatically as some (myself included) would have hoped. However, he had his own Labour leadership issues to deal with at the time, constantly reacting to party members trying to topple him or stab him in the back. On top of that, the whole referendum had the air of an inter-conservative battle about it and nobody ever thought leave would actually win at any point.
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Arf! Corbyn's been anti-EU ever since we joined.

His "campaigning" was a fücking disgrace.

Boris in reverse. Pair of utter, opportunist cùnts.
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Done up like Kippers on 15:26 - Nov 29 with 447 viewswhoflungdung

so Trese and Jez on the same hymn sheet then /

After a lifetime of anti Europe capitalist ,management dogma JEZ was all for remaining then .

Truly, as cynical a politician as is possible and one who s seemingly getting away with it all mainly due to utter supine Conservatives with no fire in their bellies.

Labour are cynical ,Conservatives deserve more approbium given they re handin g this country to Jezza,DI ,Emily and our favourite Ira supporting and financially illiterate shadow chancellor

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Done up like Kippers on 15:40 - Nov 29 with 446 viewsBatterseajack

Not sure why i'm sticking up for Jez here, but you can be critical of the EU and still wish to remain. Unless i'm mistaken, did he not campaign during the referendum to remain in the EU?
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Done up like Kippers on 15:46 - Nov 29 with 443 viewsWarwickHunt

Done up like Kippers on 15:40 - Nov 29 by Batterseajack

Not sure why i'm sticking up for Jez here, but you can be critical of the EU and still wish to remain. Unless i'm mistaken, did he not campaign during the referendum to remain in the EU?


He hid for most of it. A few token, lukewarm speeches and Seamus Milne behind the scenes pulling the strings.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36633238
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Done up like Kippers on 16:12 - Nov 29 with 427 viewsmax936

Seems that the cost hasn't gone down well, unsurprisingly


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/%C2%A350bn-to-leave-the-eu-what-an-unforgiv

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Done up like Kippers on 16:19 - Nov 29 with 420 viewslonglostjack

So the UK ends up paying anyway but will no longer have any say in how the EU is run. Fantastic.

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Done up like Kippers on 16:24 - Nov 29 with 417 viewsmax936

Done up like Kippers on 16:19 - Nov 29 by longlostjack

So the UK ends up paying anyway but will no longer have any say in how the EU is run. Fantastic.


Its similar to the Yanks and the Trust situation, can't change the Brexit vote, but can and should change the Trust vote.

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Done up like Kippers on 17:09 - Nov 29 with 399 viewsGlyn1

From today's London Evening Standard:

"£50,000,000,000 would pay for 200 new hospitals for the NHS. £50,000,000,000 would more than cover the cost of Crossrail 2 through London, plus a new high- speed line across the north of England.

With £50,000,000,000 you would do much more than plug the hole in the defence budget — you’d completely equip the British military with the best new kit in the world to protect us and defend themselves.

£50,000,000,000 is more than the £44 billion in total funding and loans the Chancellor just announced in the Budget for housebuilding — so you could more than double the number of new homes available for young people over the next five years."

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Done up like Kippers on 17:12 - Nov 29 with 397 viewsPozuelosSideys

Done up like Kippers on 17:09 - Nov 29 by Glyn1

From today's London Evening Standard:

"£50,000,000,000 would pay for 200 new hospitals for the NHS. £50,000,000,000 would more than cover the cost of Crossrail 2 through London, plus a new high- speed line across the north of England.

With £50,000,000,000 you would do much more than plug the hole in the defence budget — you’d completely equip the British military with the best new kit in the world to protect us and defend themselves.

£50,000,000,000 is more than the £44 billion in total funding and loans the Chancellor just announced in the Budget for housebuilding — so you could more than double the number of new homes available for young people over the next five years."


Those are all fair points. But you can flip that too. As a net contributor, we would sink far more than that into the EU coffers over the next 10-20 years. Granted, we can a % back and are told how to spend it. But with lots of the Baltic states coming online, there will be more mouths to feed. The costs will just keep increasing.

"Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper."

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Done up like Kippers on 17:27 - Nov 29 with 387 viewsBatterseajack

Done up like Kippers on 17:12 - Nov 29 by PozuelosSideys

Those are all fair points. But you can flip that too. As a net contributor, we would sink far more than that into the EU coffers over the next 10-20 years. Granted, we can a % back and are told how to spend it. But with lots of the Baltic states coming online, there will be more mouths to feed. The costs will just keep increasing.


But don't we get tariff free access to the worlds biggest economy for that though right.
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Done up like Kippers on 17:32 - Nov 29 with 382 viewslonglostjack

Done up like Kippers on 17:27 - Nov 29 by Batterseajack

But don't we get tariff free access to the worlds biggest economy for that though right.


And we'll be able to live and work anywhere in that big economy without needing to worry about getting a work permit- it'll be fantastic.

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Done up like Kippers on 17:44 - Nov 29 with 376 viewsPozuelosSideys

Done up like Kippers on 17:27 - Nov 29 by Batterseajack

But don't we get tariff free access to the worlds biggest economy for that though right.


We do. But thats why the upcoming discussion on the trade bit is important. If this part sucks, then even ill start moaning like fck. The EU have their money. Its not really in their best interest to cut their noses off. However, they might!

"Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper."

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Done up like Kippers on 18:33 - Nov 29 with 353 viewsdeanscfc

Those who were passionate about leaving/Brexit should be eating a lot of humble pie right now. Unfortunately for this country they aren't...where as before the referendum things were 'the immigrants' fault and the EU's fault...now it is the EU's fault and 'the remoaners' fault. Absolutely nothing to do with the decision they took though despite all expert advice.

Economy slowed, Brexit costs massive (brexit bill at over £1000 per person in the UK, costs of thousands more civil servants, extra £3 billion in the budget), no government attention on anything else for the last 1.5 years, prices and cost of living risen, investment down and stalling, jobs moving, huge contracts going...medical agency etc.. , new trade deals still years and years away and an insane government who are just puppets to Paul Dacre, Rupert Murdoch etc and want to pull out of the single market at any cost.....yeah basically just a gigantic f*ck up. Putin must be pissing himself.
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Done up like Kippers on 19:27 - Nov 29 with 335 viewslonglostjack

Done up like Kippers on 18:33 - Nov 29 by deanscfc

Those who were passionate about leaving/Brexit should be eating a lot of humble pie right now. Unfortunately for this country they aren't...where as before the referendum things were 'the immigrants' fault and the EU's fault...now it is the EU's fault and 'the remoaners' fault. Absolutely nothing to do with the decision they took though despite all expert advice.

Economy slowed, Brexit costs massive (brexit bill at over £1000 per person in the UK, costs of thousands more civil servants, extra £3 billion in the budget), no government attention on anything else for the last 1.5 years, prices and cost of living risen, investment down and stalling, jobs moving, huge contracts going...medical agency etc.. , new trade deals still years and years away and an insane government who are just puppets to Paul Dacre, Rupert Murdoch etc and want to pull out of the single market at any cost.....yeah basically just a gigantic f*ck up. Putin must be pissing himself.


Great post.

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Done up like Kippers on 21:17 - Nov 29 with 305 viewsKilkennyjack

Done up like Kippers on 18:33 - Nov 29 by deanscfc

Those who were passionate about leaving/Brexit should be eating a lot of humble pie right now. Unfortunately for this country they aren't...where as before the referendum things were 'the immigrants' fault and the EU's fault...now it is the EU's fault and 'the remoaners' fault. Absolutely nothing to do with the decision they took though despite all expert advice.

Economy slowed, Brexit costs massive (brexit bill at over £1000 per person in the UK, costs of thousands more civil servants, extra £3 billion in the budget), no government attention on anything else for the last 1.5 years, prices and cost of living risen, investment down and stalling, jobs moving, huge contracts going...medical agency etc.. , new trade deals still years and years away and an insane government who are just puppets to Paul Dacre, Rupert Murdoch etc and want to pull out of the single market at any cost.....yeah basically just a gigantic f*ck up. Putin must be pissing himself.


A fantastic post, word perfect.

Davis is an idiot.


Britain: We owe nothing!
EU: £60bn.
Britain: Not a penny!
EU: £60bn.
Britain: Go whistle!
EU: £60bn.
Britain: £20bn.
EU: £60bn.
Britain: £40bn.
EU: £60bn.
Britain: £50bn.
EU: £60bn.
Britain: £57bn.
EU: Done. Cheers. Now what about Ireland?
#NegotiatingIsGREAT

‘Not free merely, but Gaelic as well; not Gaelic merely, but free as well’ ...🍀🇮🇪 💚 ‘No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin’. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿👏🏿

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Done up like Kippers on 23:32 - Dec 1 with 228 viewsdeanscfc

Done up like Kippers on 21:17 - Nov 29 by Kilkennyjack

A fantastic post, word perfect.

Davis is an idiot.


Britain: We owe nothing!
EU: £60bn.
Britain: Not a penny!
EU: £60bn.
Britain: Go whistle!
EU: £60bn.
Britain: £20bn.
EU: £60bn.
Britain: £40bn.
EU: £60bn.
Britain: £50bn.
EU: £60bn.
Britain: £57bn.
EU: Done. Cheers. Now what about Ireland?
#NegotiatingIsGREAT


Thanks...my overriding feeling is just one of frustration. Knowing that something is panning out just as badly as you thought (and tried to tell people) that it would... A bit like how many of us felt after we sold Gylfi and Llorente come to think of it.
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Done up like Kippers on 23:49 - Dec 1 with 223 viewsLeonWasGod

Done up like Kippers on 16:12 - Nov 29 by max936

Seems that the cost hasn't gone down well, unsurprisingly


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/%C2%A350bn-to-leave-the-eu-what-an-unforgiv


Seeing Farage in that piece makes my blood boil. It's largely down to him that we're in this mess in the first place (closely followed by Cameron's with his lack of balls).

And where's the c*nt now? Stiring it up wherever he can at rallies with foreign Nazis and giving Trumpie some tips. Still drawing his nice MEP salary and bonuses despite doing fark all for it too.
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