80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 19:25 - Jan 2 with 2460 views | exiledclaseboy | Nothing wrong with saying that statistics show that young black men commit a disproportionately high amount of knife crime. Just as long as you don’t think the only reason for that is that “black kids like knives”. | |
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 19:28 - Jan 2 with 2452 views | E20Jack |
80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 19:25 - Jan 2 by exiledclaseboy | Nothing wrong with saying that statistics show that young black men commit a disproportionately high amount of knife crime. Just as long as you don’t think the only reason for that is that “black kids like knives”. |
That isn't what was said though. What was said is there is a common link, which clearly was pointing to race. Which is not true. 46% of knife crime is committed by Caucasian men in London, there is a disproportionate amount within each racial group but to say there is a common link (being race) with the crime itself - is completely false. As someone from London myself, believe me when I tell you that it is not a ''race thing'' it is a ''wealth thing''. It just so happens that due to generational racism in the UK which cannot be disputed, many people of ethnic backgrounds live in these poor areas, so the link is wealth - not race. [Post edited 2 Jan 2018 19:37]
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 19:36 - Jan 2 with 2437 views | max936 |
80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 19:28 - Jan 2 by E20Jack | That isn't what was said though. What was said is there is a common link, which clearly was pointing to race. Which is not true. 46% of knife crime is committed by Caucasian men in London, there is a disproportionate amount within each racial group but to say there is a common link (being race) with the crime itself - is completely false. As someone from London myself, believe me when I tell you that it is not a ''race thing'' it is a ''wealth thing''. It just so happens that due to generational racism in the UK which cannot be disputed, many people of ethnic backgrounds live in these poor areas, so the link is wealth - not race. [Post edited 2 Jan 2018 19:37]
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Its all starting to go over my head this, I started the thread to highlight the problem that London seems to be facing, I put it down to gangs, maybe it'll be interesting to know what proportion of these attacks and deaths are of what race, although I'm not sure it makes a difference victims are victims whatever race or creed, same obviously applies to the assailants, the cure to the problem is what's needed not worrying about race or creeds. Sounds simple but sadly its not. | |
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 19:38 - Jan 2 with 2429 views | pikeypaul |
80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 19:28 - Jan 2 by E20Jack | That isn't what was said though. What was said is there is a common link, which clearly was pointing to race. Which is not true. 46% of knife crime is committed by Caucasian men in London, there is a disproportionate amount within each racial group but to say there is a common link (being race) with the crime itself - is completely false. As someone from London myself, believe me when I tell you that it is not a ''race thing'' it is a ''wealth thing''. It just so happens that due to generational racism in the UK which cannot be disputed, many people of ethnic backgrounds live in these poor areas, so the link is wealth - not race. [Post edited 2 Jan 2018 19:37]
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You say "46% of knife crime in London is committed by whites" Link please. Just taken a look and 67% of gun crime in London is committed by blacks ,so Asian,whites,etc only commit 33% in total of gun crime with the huge amount of black on black knife crime I would imagine blacks commit far higher than the 67% they commit with a gun. [Post edited 2 Jan 2018 19:49]
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 19:38 - Jan 2 with 2427 views | exiledclaseboy |
80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 19:28 - Jan 2 by E20Jack | That isn't what was said though. What was said is there is a common link, which clearly was pointing to race. Which is not true. 46% of knife crime is committed by Caucasian men in London, there is a disproportionate amount within each racial group but to say there is a common link (being race) with the crime itself - is completely false. As someone from London myself, believe me when I tell you that it is not a ''race thing'' it is a ''wealth thing''. It just so happens that due to generational racism in the UK which cannot be disputed, many people of ethnic backgrounds live in these poor areas, so the link is wealth - not race. [Post edited 2 Jan 2018 19:37]
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Agree completely. | |
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 19:39 - Jan 2 with 2421 views | E20Jack |
80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 19:38 - Jan 2 by pikeypaul | You say "46% of knife crime in London is committed by whites" Link please. Just taken a look and 67% of gun crime in London is committed by blacks ,so Asian,whites,etc only commit 33% in total of gun crime with the huge amount of black on black knife crime I would imagine blacks commit far higher than the 67% they commit with a gun. [Post edited 2 Jan 2018 19:49]
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Don't need a link. It is just a fact. | |
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 19:40 - Jan 2 with 2418 views | PozuelosSideys |
80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 19:36 - Jan 2 by max936 | Its all starting to go over my head this, I started the thread to highlight the problem that London seems to be facing, I put it down to gangs, maybe it'll be interesting to know what proportion of these attacks and deaths are of what race, although I'm not sure it makes a difference victims are victims whatever race or creed, same obviously applies to the assailants, the cure to the problem is what's needed not worrying about race or creeds. Sounds simple but sadly its not. |
Think its more complicated than that mate. There is an element of it related to gangs. But E20 is also correct when he says its related to wealth as well. Unfortunately the black community struggles with that as well so technically it is related to culture. The music scene here plays a big part. Shanks and shanking is super glamourised within it. Ive seen somebody get stabbed up on Brick Lane. Not a pleasant sight. | |
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 19:40 - Jan 2 with 2407 views | Garyjack |
80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 19:28 - Jan 2 by E20Jack | That isn't what was said though. What was said is there is a common link, which clearly was pointing to race. Which is not true. 46% of knife crime is committed by Caucasian men in London, there is a disproportionate amount within each racial group but to say there is a common link (being race) with the crime itself - is completely false. As someone from London myself, believe me when I tell you that it is not a ''race thing'' it is a ''wealth thing''. It just so happens that due to generational racism in the UK which cannot be disputed, many people of ethnic backgrounds live in these poor areas, so the link is wealth - not race. [Post edited 2 Jan 2018 19:37]
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Was it posted that the common link was race? I read it as the link being gang related? | | | | Login to get fewer ads
80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 19:42 - Jan 2 with 2413 views | E20Jack |
80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 19:40 - Jan 2 by Garyjack | Was it posted that the common link was race? I read it as the link being gang related? |
Ask pikey paul what he meant. | |
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 20:40 - Jan 2 with 2359 views | E20Jack |
I have told you what I make of it. From someone who lives here and experiences it. | |
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 20:44 - Jan 2 with 2358 views | max936 |
80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 19:40 - Jan 2 by PozuelosSideys | Think its more complicated than that mate. There is an element of it related to gangs. But E20 is also correct when he says its related to wealth as well. Unfortunately the black community struggles with that as well so technically it is related to culture. The music scene here plays a big part. Shanks and shanking is super glamourised within it. Ive seen somebody get stabbed up on Brick Lane. Not a pleasant sight. |
I appreciate that, as I said that it sounds simple when its really not, as for the wealth side of the problem, that's a complicated one, because I cannot see how that can change, there's deprived areas everywhere in the Country though, within same areas streets even I see it regularly as I work in peoples houses everyday and believe it or not when I suspect a house is gonna be messy they rarely rarely are, its surprising it really is. [Post edited 2 Jan 2018 20:47]
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 22:54 - Jan 2 with 2330 views | jackportis | Don’t the kids have a sort of gangsta voice to go with the knife? Lowered jeans, walk funny. 50 cent and Eminem need to bring out an anti knife song innit. | |
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 10:13 - Jan 3 with 2282 views | whoflungdung | Certain ethnicities are proficient and specialise in certain crimes . Fact Nothing to do with racism | |
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 10:17 - Jan 3 with 2281 views | E20Jack |
80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 10:13 - Jan 3 by whoflungdung | Certain ethnicities are proficient and specialise in certain crimes . Fact Nothing to do with racism |
Go on.... | |
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 10:35 - Jan 3 with 2265 views | Highjack | No money, no hope. Broken families. These gangs prey on kids like this and offer them the perceived sense of belonging, family and purpose that they've never had before. | |
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 10:37 - Jan 3 with 2263 views | Highjack |
80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 18:48 - Jan 2 by Garyjack | Talking of wars, since gun related deaths bagan to be recorded in 1968, there have been 1,516,863 deaths. Since the founding of the United States there have been 1,396,733 war deaths. *Figures from 5 Oct 2017 [Post edited 2 Jan 2018 18:49]
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Ironic thing is over half of those war deaths were Americans shooting each other during the civil war. | |
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 10:37 - Jan 3 with 2263 views | E20Jack | Im still waiting to hear what ethicities specialise in certain crimes. Japanese specialise in ninja style burglary? | |
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 10:41 - Jan 3 with 2261 views | Highjack |
80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 10:37 - Jan 3 by E20Jack | Im still waiting to hear what ethicities specialise in certain crimes. Japanese specialise in ninja style burglary? |
Scousers specialise in all sorts of crimes. | |
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 10:46 - Jan 3 with 2258 views | whoflungdung | Mainly burglaries,armed robberies and drugs. What do Welsh boys specialise in | |
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 10:47 - Jan 3 with 2257 views | E20Jack |
80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 10:46 - Jan 3 by whoflungdung | Mainly burglaries,armed robberies and drugs. What do Welsh boys specialise in |
So which ethicities specialise is which crimes? | |
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 10:50 - Jan 3 with 2256 views | whoflungdung | Country s capital gets derailed towards Liverpool. Highjack obviously on the morning shift [Post edited 3 Jan 2018 10:51]
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 10:53 - Jan 3 with 2251 views | E20Jack |
80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 10:50 - Jan 3 by whoflungdung | Country s capital gets derailed towards Liverpool. Highjack obviously on the morning shift [Post edited 3 Jan 2018 10:51]
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Keep it on topic then, im trying to have a conversation with you here. You seem to be ignoring me. | |
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 10:53 - Jan 3 with 2251 views | whoflungdung | Albanians in people trafficking for a start ,Viertnamese in cannabis production. | |
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80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 11:01 - Jan 3 with 2245 views | E20Jack |
80 deaths by stabbings in the Countries Capital on 10:53 - Jan 3 by whoflungdung | Albanians in people trafficking for a start ,Viertnamese in cannabis production. |
But that is country specific isn't it rather than a penchant for a certain ethnicity. If you took an Albanian baby and brought it to the UK to be fostered (in a non people trafficking way of course) it would be no more likely to be a people trafficker than anyone else. We are talking about UK citizens and a general crime, which is knife violence. The connection is not race at all but deprived areas. It just so happens that due to generational racism a lot of black people and those from ethnic minorities are forced to live there due to circumstance. If it was the other way around then the race statistics would be turned on its head. It wouldn't mean the connection to knife crime would be white people though - it would be once again, wealth (or lack of). [Post edited 3 Jan 2018 11:03]
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