| One trick pony 21:22 - Jan 5 with 10516 views | swan65split |
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| One trick pony on 17:29 - Jan 7 with 817 views | E20Jack |
| One trick pony on 16:42 - Jan 7 by trampie |
At 15.17 you said 'will'.
What's this long term you are off about, I'm all about winning, I've had a dabble for a few hours at the most and won yet you don't think it can be done.
And the reason you think it can't be done is because you have not got the intelligence or nous and can't accept it when others can win and you can't. |
Yes, you will win if you have unlimited money and no table limits - neither apply to anyone on the planet. Sort those things and yes you can, but I don't envisage you doing that somehow Tramps.
I am amazed you have asked me that. "Longterm" is the barometer of value and edge. If you can only win short term then that means it is luck not an edge. It is like me giving you 1/10 odds on tails and you accepting. You may win a few times in a row, but the fact I have the edge means you will lose longterm. Playing short term doesn't alter the edge into your favour however, it just means it brings luck into play.
First and last time I will probably hear playing roulette and nous in the same sentence, these games are often referred to as "a tax on the rich and the stupid". There is a reason for that. |  |
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| One trick pony on 17:36 - Jan 7 with 796 views | trampie |
| One trick pony on 17:29 - Jan 7 by E20Jack |
Yes, you will win if you have unlimited money and no table limits - neither apply to anyone on the planet. Sort those things and yes you can, but I don't envisage you doing that somehow Tramps.
I am amazed you have asked me that. "Longterm" is the barometer of value and edge. If you can only win short term then that means it is luck not an edge. It is like me giving you 1/10 odds on tails and you accepting. You may win a few times in a row, but the fact I have the edge means you will lose longterm. Playing short term doesn't alter the edge into your favour however, it just means it brings luck into play.
First and last time I will probably hear playing roulette and nous in the same sentence, these games are often referred to as "a tax on the rich and the stupid". There is a reason for that. |
What are the odds on being wrong on a (close as damn it) 50-50 bet say 5 times on the trot ? |  |
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| One trick pony on 17:45 - Jan 7 with 772 views | E20Jack |
| One trick pony on 17:36 - Jan 7 by trampie |
What are the odds on being wrong on a (close as damn it) 50-50 bet say 5 times on the trot ? |
35.7/1
But that is inbuilt into the odds model.
It means every 35 times you try you will roughly hit the losing streak once. That losing streak takes out more than you won previously and of course can come at any time, it wont come on the 35th attempt. | |
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| One trick pony on 17:47 - Jan 7 with 764 views | E20Jack |
You are taking evens odds each spin on something you have around 53% chance of losing. | |
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| One trick pony on 17:54 - Jan 7 with 744 views | trampie |
| One trick pony on 17:45 - Jan 7 by E20Jack |
35.7/1
But that is inbuilt into the odds model.
It means every 35 times you try you will roughly hit the losing streak once. That losing streak takes out more than you won previously and of course can come at any time, it wont come on the 35th attempt. |
Losing streak will only average once in 35 go's you say, well well well.
Switched on punters will win and walkaway, you seem to think people will play continuously for days, weeks, months, lol. | |
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| One trick pony on 17:58 - Jan 7 with 735 views | E20Jack |
| One trick pony on 17:54 - Jan 7 by trampie |
Losing streak will only average once in 35 go's you say, well well well.
Switched on punters will win and walkaway, you seem to think people will play continuously for days, weeks, months, lol. |
You dont need to play for weeks months or days in order to lose.
You are still 53% underdog each time you sit and play.
Switched on punters dont sit in the first place and stick cash down to return even money on something that is an 11/10 shot. It is the opposite of switched on.
Short term plays may well bring luck into it, but if 10000 people sat down short term, 53% of them would lose.
No getting around it Tramps. | |
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| One trick pony on 18:21 - Jan 7 with 708 views | trampie |
| One trick pony on 17:58 - Jan 7 by E20Jack |
You dont need to play for weeks months or days in order to lose.
You are still 53% underdog each time you sit and play.
Switched on punters dont sit in the first place and stick cash down to return even money on something that is an 11/10 shot. It is the opposite of switched on.
Short term plays may well bring luck into it, but if 10000 people sat down short term, 53% of them would lose.
No getting around it Tramps. |
You only need to win 1 spin, 1 close on 50-50 spin in what 5 or 6 spins for low rollers, a lot more spins for high rollers.
I've been to 4 of the most famous casinos in the world and won, playing cards in some and roulette in others, I take it you have never been to a casino ? or you have been to a casino and lost ???
I await your answer. | |
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| One trick pony on 18:29 - Jan 7 with 692 views | E20Jack |
| One trick pony on 18:21 - Jan 7 by trampie |
You only need to win 1 spin, 1 close on 50-50 spin in what 5 or 6 spins for low rollers, a lot more spins for high rollers.
I've been to 4 of the most famous casinos in the world and won, playing cards in some and roulette in others, I take it you have never been to a casino ? or you have been to a casino and lost ???
I await your answer. |
Huh?
Trampie, you are not making sense my friend.
You have no idea when the loss will come. It is no different to covering 35 of the 36 numbers. And saying "yeah but I will only lose 1 in 36 times" - the fact is your losses will swamp your winnings due to the overround
I have been to many casinos unfortunately, including the Monte Carlo one (which you have to pay to get in?!) never placed a bet on table games though because I know my odds. I did have a very expensive Coca Cola though.
I am not saying you have not won Tramps. I am saying you were very lucky if this is your strategy. It is like me giving you 1/10 on tails, you taking it and it winning 3 times in a row... You may have won, but that does not mean it is a winning strategy.
Come on Rramps, dont know if you are pulling my leg here. This isnt even difficult stuff. | |
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| One trick pony on 18:33 - Jan 7 with 675 views | Swanjaxs |
| One trick pony on 18:21 - Jan 7 by trampie |
You only need to win 1 spin, 1 close on 50-50 spin in what 5 or 6 spins for low rollers, a lot more spins for high rollers.
I've been to 4 of the most famous casinos in the world and won, playing cards in some and roulette in others, I take it you have never been to a casino ? or you have been to a casino and lost ???
I await your answer. |
I wonder if Gylfi Sigurdsson has ever been to a casino... 🤔 [Post edited 7 Jan 2018 18:34]
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| One trick pony on 18:47 - Jan 7 with 649 views | trampie |
| One trick pony on 18:29 - Jan 7 by E20Jack |
Huh?
Trampie, you are not making sense my friend.
You have no idea when the loss will come. It is no different to covering 35 of the 36 numbers. And saying "yeah but I will only lose 1 in 36 times" - the fact is your losses will swamp your winnings due to the overround
I have been to many casinos unfortunately, including the Monte Carlo one (which you have to pay to get in?!) never placed a bet on table games though because I know my odds. I did have a very expensive Coca Cola though.
I am not saying you have not won Tramps. I am saying you were very lucky if this is your strategy. It is like me giving you 1/10 on tails, you taking it and it winning 3 times in a row... You may have won, but that does not mean it is a winning strategy.
Come on Rramps, dont know if you are pulling my leg here. This isnt even difficult stuff. |
Hahaha
You have been to a casino and done your money on coca cola and I've won wonga. | |
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| One trick pony on 18:50 - Jan 7 with 645 views | E20Jack |
| One trick pony on 18:47 - Jan 7 by trampie |
Hahaha
You have been to a casino and done your money on coca cola and I've won wonga. |
Yes all 12 euros of it from memory.nIt was a fairly decent coke, although I have since given up.
I will happily allow people backing under probability value to "win wonga", as will the casino. In fact these people are actively encouranged to do so, as they are in my line of work. It is my job to keep the people that dont understand value for as long as possible and restrict anyone that does. P&l is not a factor, price is.
Until you understand that you will only ever be able to rely on luck. | |
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| One trick pony on 18:56 - Jan 7 with 633 views | trampie |
| One trick pony on 18:50 - Jan 7 by E20Jack |
Yes all 12 euros of it from memory.nIt was a fairly decent coke, although I have since given up.
I will happily allow people backing under probability value to "win wonga", as will the casino. In fact these people are actively encouranged to do so, as they are in my line of work. It is my job to keep the people that dont understand value for as long as possible and restrict anyone that does. P&l is not a factor, price is.
Until you understand that you will only ever be able to rely on luck. |
Are you saying you are a bookie ? | |
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| One trick pony on 18:58 - Jan 7 with 628 views | E20Jack |
| One trick pony on 18:56 - Jan 7 by trampie |
Are you saying you are a bookie ? |
No, I am a risk analyst for a £4bn company that has a joint stake in a global bookmaker. | |
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| One trick pony on 19:12 - Jan 7 with 610 views | Jackfath |
| One trick pony on 18:58 - Jan 7 by E20Jack |
No, I am a risk analyst for a £4bn company that has a joint stake in a global bookmaker. |
Are you still very wealthy? |  |
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| One trick pony on 19:16 - Jan 7 with 599 views | E20Jack |
Silly question | |
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| One trick pony on 19:17 - Jan 7 with 596 views | Neath_Jack |
| One trick pony on 19:12 - Jan 7 by Jackfath |
Are you still very wealthy? |
He's come a very long way since his eating degree. |  |
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| One trick pony on 19:19 - Jan 7 with 585 views | Fireboy2 |
| One trick pony on 19:12 - Jan 7 by Jackfath |
Are you still very wealthy? |
Well if he is he can help the trust out in the court case |  | | |
| One trick pony on 19:19 - Jan 7 with 576 views | Jackfath |
| One trick pony on 19:16 - Jan 7 by E20Jack |
Silly question |
Why is it silly? | |
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| One trick pony on 19:31 - Jan 7 with 561 views | E20Jack |
Everyone has turned silly then. Oh good | |
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| One trick pony on 19:35 - Jan 7 with 554 views | exiledclaseboy |
| One trick pony on 19:17 - Jan 7 by Neath_Jack |
He's come a very long way since his eating degree. |
It was a BTEC. |  |
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| One trick pony on 19:37 - Jan 7 with 548 views | Neath_Jack |
Everyone lies on their CV anyway. | |
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| One trick pony on 19:41 - Jan 7 with 539 views | E20Jack |
SO anyone come up with a way to beat stacked probability? Fascinated | |
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| One trick pony on 19:44 - Jan 7 with 534 views | exiledclaseboy |
| One trick pony on 19:41 - Jan 7 by E20Jack |
SO anyone come up with a way to beat stacked probability? Fascinated |
Only Trampie but no one takes any notice of anything he says anyway. | |
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| One trick pony on 20:10 - Jan 7 with 509 views | trampie |
| One trick pony on 18:58 - Jan 7 by E20Jack |
No, I am a risk analyst for a £4bn company that has a joint stake in a global bookmaker. |
What's a risk analysis ?, does that mean you are risk averse ? | |
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