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Question for the history experts - what's our history 18:50 - Jan 10 with 1532 viewsGlyn1

While spying on the Toons, I found this thread on whether we should or shouldn't be in the "English" Premier League* - it's the usual stuff that you'll have read before, some people attacking us - and the sensible ones defending us.

https://www.toonforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9157&hilit=Clement

One of them said: "I presume they entered at the bottom and worked there way up over the years."

I always thought that we were in the league before Newcastle, and may have been a founder member (?), because southern English teams would rather travel to Wales rather than trek north. And weren't Aberdare and Merthyr also in the league?

*And yes, I know that it's not officially the "English Premier League" anyway (as JackFish points out below, it is officially the "English Football League").

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Question for the history experts - what's our history on 19:33 - Jan 10 with 1453 viewsItchySphincter

The league doesn't belong to the English and as founder members of the third division we have every right to play in it. It's not our fault that the Welsh set up their own league afterwards.

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Question for the history experts - what's our history on 20:21 - Jan 10 with 1393 viewsJackFish

We definitely weren't in the league before Newcastle, but yes, we joined when the Southern League turned en-mass into the third division, and then third division (south) the following season.

It actually is called the English Football League now, by the way.
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Question for the history experts - what's our history on 22:29 - Jan 10 with 1283 viewsDr_Winston

Question for the history experts - what's our history on 19:33 - Jan 10 by ItchySphincter

The league doesn't belong to the English and as founder members of the third division we have every right to play in it. It's not our fault that the Welsh set up their own league afterwards.


The league does belong to the English FA and they very kindly allow us to continue playing in it and even represent them in Europe.

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Question for the history experts - what's our history on 23:20 - Jan 10 with 1230 viewsLeonWasGod

Question for the history experts - what's our history on 20:21 - Jan 10 by JackFish

We definitely weren't in the league before Newcastle, but yes, we joined when the Southern League turned en-mass into the third division, and then third division (south) the following season.

It actually is called the English Football League now, by the way.


This. We were invited/elected to the league in 1920/21. Well after Newcastle, but we've every right to be in it.

Although whilst it's the EFL, it is the Premier League (no mention of England).

We joined at the same time as:
relegated.

Brentford F.C.
Brighton & Hove Albion F.C.
Bristol Rovers F.C.
Crystal Palace F.C. (initial champions in 1920—21)
Exeter City F.C.
Gillingham F.C.
Grimsby Town F.C.
Luton Town F.C.
Merthyr Town F.C.
Millwall F.C.
Newport County A.F.C.
Northampton Town F.C.
Norwich City F.C.
Plymouth Argyle F.C.
Portsmouth F.C.
Queens Park Rangers F.C.
Reading
Southampton
Southend United F.C
Swindon Town F.C.
Watford F.C.
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Question for the history experts - what's our history on 16:43 - Jan 11 with 1060 viewsGlyn1

Question for the history experts - what's our history on 23:20 - Jan 10 by LeonWasGod

This. We were invited/elected to the league in 1920/21. Well after Newcastle, but we've every right to be in it.

Although whilst it's the EFL, it is the Premier League (no mention of England).

We joined at the same time as:
relegated.

Brentford F.C.
Brighton & Hove Albion F.C.
Bristol Rovers F.C.
Crystal Palace F.C. (initial champions in 1920—21)
Exeter City F.C.
Gillingham F.C.
Grimsby Town F.C.
Luton Town F.C.
Merthyr Town F.C.
Millwall F.C.
Newport County A.F.C.
Northampton Town F.C.
Norwich City F.C.
Plymouth Argyle F.C.
Portsmouth F.C.
Queens Park Rangers F.C.
Reading
Southampton
Southend United F.C
Swindon Town F.C.
Watford F.C.


Thanks for this.

It's amazing how many of these clubs have survived - should be a great centenary in three years' time, whatever division we're in.

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