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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) 18:57 - Feb 13 with 3601 viewsKennedy

So they are less per games than the current deal. The above is for BT and Sky.


https://news.sky.com/story/sky-and-bt-in-new-446bn-premier-league-deal-11249236

These are the 2 packages remaining

Package F

Total matches: 20 Matches per club: Max two; Min two Kick-off times: All 20 matches from one Bank Holiday and one midweek fixture programme

Package G

Total matches: 20 Matches per club: Max two; Min two Kick-off times: All 20 matches from two midweek fixture programmes
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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 19:01 - Feb 13 with 2970 viewsDr_Winston

The Saturday evening game idea is rubbish. Just do more on Friday nights.

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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:07 - Feb 13 with 2775 viewsJack_Kass

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 19:01 - Feb 13 by Dr_Winston

The Saturday evening game idea is rubbish. Just do more on Friday nights.


Yeah they did this format the Saturday before xmas - 4 games - 12pm until 10pm

Was a hard slog watching 4 games in a row

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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:17 - Feb 13 with 2743 viewsexiledclaseboy

Looks like the price in total isn’t going to increase significantly from the last rights sale despite more games being sold. Be interesting to see who gets the last two packages. Probably another one each for Sky and Bee Tee.

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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:37 - Feb 13 with 2663 viewsGaryjack

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 19:01 - Feb 13 by Dr_Winston

The Saturday evening game idea is rubbish. Just do more on Friday nights.


Saturday evening is Saturday afternoon in the USA and Canada. It's also morning to midday/afternoon on a Sunday in Oz and the far East. We can expect these times to increase in the future, and an increase in £££'s from the worldwide packages. Money money money!
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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:48 - Feb 13 with 2615 viewsKennedy

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:17 - Feb 13 by exiledclaseboy

Looks like the price in total isn’t going to increase significantly from the last rights sale despite more games being sold. Be interesting to see who gets the last two packages. Probably another one each for Sky and Bee Tee.


Think Amazon or Netflix will have a go.

Amazon will suit the 10 games in 1 night perfectly.

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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:50 - Feb 13 with 2605 viewsMrSwerve

Looking forward to the day that they see sense and we can get a 'package' to see all of your own club's games live.

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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:51 - Feb 13 with 2603 viewsexiledclaseboy

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:48 - Feb 13 by Kennedy

Think Amazon or Netflix will have a go.

Amazon will suit the 10 games in 1 night perfectly.


They’d need to have already bid if they want a package. They can’t join in at this stage. But I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re involved. I still think Sky will get the maximum 148 games they’re allowed though and BT will get the other package to pretty much maintain the status quo.
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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:55 - Feb 13 with 2576 viewsLeonWasGod

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:48 - Feb 13 by Kennedy

Think Amazon or Netflix will have a go.

Amazon will suit the 10 games in 1 night perfectly.


That'd be great wouldn't it? Could end up with 4 providers and 4 different subscriptions if you want to make sure you don't miss any games.

Better for fans when sky had a monopoly.

It's getting towards the point that a ST is not much more expensive than TV (and infinitely preferable imo, which is why I ditched sky & BT).
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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:59 - Feb 13 with 2555 viewsNeath_Jack

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:51 - Feb 13 by exiledclaseboy

They’d need to have already bid if they want a package. They can’t join in at this stage. But I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re involved. I still think Sky will get the maximum 148 games they’re allowed though and BT will get the other package to pretty much maintain the status quo.
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They were talking about Netflix and Amazon bidding for it on Talksport earlier on. They were also saying that SkySports have spent less time than the last time, whereas BT have paid more.
One ex player said the current players will be tamping though as they were all hoping for a massive pay rise again.

I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 21:11 - Feb 13 with 2502 viewsmax936

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 19:01 - Feb 13 by Dr_Winston

The Saturday evening game idea is rubbish. Just do more on Friday nights.


Init, 7.45 on a Saturday night, 5.45 is bad enough

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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 21:26 - Feb 13 with 2452 viewsexiledclaseboy

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:59 - Feb 13 by Neath_Jack

They were talking about Netflix and Amazon bidding for it on Talksport earlier on. They were also saying that SkySports have spent less time than the last time, whereas BT have paid more.
One ex player said the current players will be tamping though as they were all hoping for a massive pay rise again.


Aye, I’d imagine there are more than the usual two bidders for the final packages otherwise they’d have announced them today as well.

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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 21:34 - Feb 13 with 2416 viewslonglostjack

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:50 - Feb 13 by MrSwerve

Looking forward to the day that they see sense and we can get a 'package' to see all of your own club's games live.


This. Pay per view wherever you are in the world.

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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 21:35 - Feb 13 with 2407 viewsNeath_Jack

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 21:26 - Feb 13 by exiledclaseboy

Aye, I’d imagine there are more than the usual two bidders for the final packages otherwise they’d have announced them today as well.


They didn't say that Netflix and Amazon had actually bid mind, more that they wouldn't be surprised if they had.

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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 21:43 - Feb 13 with 2366 viewsSwansNZ

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:59 - Feb 13 by Neath_Jack

They were talking about Netflix and Amazon bidding for it on Talksport earlier on. They were also saying that SkySports have spent less time than the last time, whereas BT have paid more.
One ex player said the current players will be tamping though as they were all hoping for a massive pay rise again.


It's going to be tough on these PL players for sure. How will they cope!

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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 22:01 - Feb 13 with 2285 viewscentrestandswan

Be better if both Sky and BT buggered off and just let the BBC show the matches at the cost of a licence fee. Think of the money we all could save.

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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 23:34 - Feb 13 with 2016 viewsRevJames

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 22:01 - Feb 13 by centrestandswan

Be better if both Sky and BT buggered off and just let the BBC show the matches at the cost of a licence fee. Think of the money we all could save.


Interesting idea but without the tv money, how would smaller clubs like us afford the players needed to compete in the PL
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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 06:33 - Feb 14 with 1820 viewssomersetsimon

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 23:34 - Feb 13 by RevJames

Interesting idea but without the tv money, how would smaller clubs like us afford the players needed to compete in the PL


On the other hand, if there wasn't all this TV money sloshing around, the salaries and transfer fees wouldn't be so ridiculously high.
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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 06:50 - Feb 14 with 1811 viewsDr_Winston

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 06:33 - Feb 14 by somersetsimon

On the other hand, if there wasn't all this TV money sloshing around, the salaries and transfer fees wouldn't be so ridiculously high.


Then all the best players would piss off abroad to where the money is. That's the balance to strike.

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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 08:47 - Feb 14 with 1717 viewsShaky

Very interesting.

I make that an average of around 8.5% less in the new deal for Sky and BT Sports on a per game broadcast basis.

Seem like they will scrape a bit more in from the other 2 packages being touted, but these are the flagship deals and clearly bring to an end the recent hockey stick trend in broadcasting rights prices.,

For owners generally that means a no-brainer path to increased future profits has been eliminated, and in that context it seems to me maintaining the ownership stake in Swansea may well have become meaningless for Kaplan.
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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 09:03 - Feb 14 with 1687 viewsAkinfenwa

I think Kodi and streaming sites have played a huge part in this.
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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 09:08 - Feb 14 with 1679 viewsSTID2017

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 09:03 - Feb 14 by Akinfenwa

I think Kodi and streaming sites have played a huge part in this.


Long may they continue.
Most would be happy to pay a fair price for games we want to see.
In this day and age why don't they just do it ?

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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 09:23 - Feb 14 with 1655 viewsShaky

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 09:03 - Feb 14 by Akinfenwa

I think Kodi and streaming sites have played a huge part in this.


Probably, but it was clearly an unsustainable trend.

The key question now is how will the industry respond to a 'current' environment of spiralling transfer fees and wages, that logically must have been predicated on the fanciful notion that the TV rights trend would go on forever?

Not to scaremonger but the typical competitive implication of major upheaveal in industry dynamics is that a number of participants go bust.

For that not to happen, wages and most importatly transfer fees need to adjust downwards sharply as soon as possible. In the case of the former that is impossible due to longer term contracts, and with the super clubs driving much of the market and much less reliant on TV earnings than the rest of the league the other also seems unlikely, certainly in the immediate future.

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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 09:30 - Feb 14 with 1642 viewsAkinfenwa

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 09:23 - Feb 14 by Shaky

Probably, but it was clearly an unsustainable trend.

The key question now is how will the industry respond to a 'current' environment of spiralling transfer fees and wages, that logically must have been predicated on the fanciful notion that the TV rights trend would go on forever?

Not to scaremonger but the typical competitive implication of major upheaveal in industry dynamics is that a number of participants go bust.

For that not to happen, wages and most importatly transfer fees need to adjust downwards sharply as soon as possible. In the case of the former that is impossible due to longer term contracts, and with the super clubs driving much of the market and much less reliant on TV earnings than the rest of the league the other also seems unlikely, certainly in the immediate future.


I agree.

In simpler terms, if Sky ever did go through the hoop it would take loads of clubs with it. The big clubs would be less affected but clubs like ours who have little income from elsewhere would be dead.

I would hope there is a contingency plan somewhere.
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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 09:34 - Feb 14 with 1630 viewsswanforthemoney

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 08:47 - Feb 14 by Shaky

Very interesting.

I make that an average of around 8.5% less in the new deal for Sky and BT Sports on a per game broadcast basis.

Seem like they will scrape a bit more in from the other 2 packages being touted, but these are the flagship deals and clearly bring to an end the recent hockey stick trend in broadcasting rights prices.,

For owners generally that means a no-brainer path to increased future profits has been eliminated, and in that context it seems to me maintaining the ownership stake in Swansea may well have become meaningless for Kaplan.
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Presumably they still have to sell International rights. Could China rights they actually go up from the last package? they might make up some of the difference

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Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 09:35 - Feb 14 with 1625 viewsswanforthemoney

Premier League rights sold - £4.46bn (2 still left to sell) on 20:50 - Feb 13 by MrSwerve

Looking forward to the day that they see sense and we can get a 'package' to see all of your own club's games live.


Ive got a package to see half the games live.
Season Ticket.

I stand in the North Stand

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