| Syria World War 3 10:42 - Apr 11 with 78603 views | Lord_Bony |
Is it about to kick off again? |  |
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| Syria World War 3 on 09:28 - Apr 20 with 1966 views | Nookiejack |
| Syria World War 3 on 09:23 - Apr 20 by Nookiejack |
How many terrorist attacks have been conducted by Iran in the West?
Answer NIL.
Compare that to all the terrorist attacks led by Groups sponsored by Saudi Arabia. |
PS
Al Qaeda flew the planes into the twin towers on 9/11.
Most of the people flying the planes were from Saudi Arabia.
Yet Iran is made out to be the demon.
We now seem to be spoiling for a war with Iran - destroy its infrastructure and then Iraq, Libya and Syria have all been taken out. |  | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 09:30 - Apr 20 with 1964 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Syria World War 3 on 09:23 - Apr 20 by Nookiejack |
How many terrorist attacks have been conducted by Iran in the West?
Answer NIL.
Compare that to all the terrorist attacks led by Groups sponsored by Saudi Arabia. |
Iran's interests are solely local, not global. That answers your question.
Of course, the fact there have been incidents - just not amazingly well publicised - undermines that question.
One example, Mykonos Greek restaurant in Germany. | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 09:42 - Apr 20 with 1951 views | Nookiejack |
| Syria World War 3 on 09:30 - Apr 20 by bluey_the_blue |
Iran's interests are solely local, not global. That answers your question.
Of course, the fact there have been incidents - just not amazingly well publicised - undermines that question.
One example, Mykonos Greek restaurant in Germany. |
'One example, Mykonos Greek restaurant in Germany.'
I just took a look on the internet and that happened in 1992.
So we destroy the infrastructure of Iran because of an assassination in 1992?
You seem to have fantastic knowledge though - knowing all about an assassination in 1992? | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 09:46 - Apr 20 with 1943 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Syria World War 3 on 09:42 - Apr 20 by Nookiejack |
'One example, Mykonos Greek restaurant in Germany.'
I just took a look on the internet and that happened in 1992.
So we destroy the infrastructure of Iran because of an assassination in 1992?
You seem to have fantastic knowledge though - knowing all about an assassination in 1992? |
Simple research tbh. Not difficult to do.
You claimed there have been no terrorist attacks in the West. There have, now you want to put a time limit on your question.
As I said , Iran have zero motivation to commit terror in the est because their target is Israel, not the West.
Iran and Syria have always been pretty evil; their pet organisation Hezbollah "invaded" Lebanon after all to no public outcry. | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 09:50 - Apr 20 with 1938 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Syria World War 3 on 09:42 - Apr 20 by Nookiejack |
'One example, Mykonos Greek restaurant in Germany.'
I just took a look on the internet and that happened in 1992.
So we destroy the infrastructure of Iran because of an assassination in 1992?
You seem to have fantastic knowledge though - knowing all about an assassination in 1992? |
Come on it’s blue mun
He’s always been monumentaly wrong about things
He’s a Cardiff fan on here for a wind up and he loves it
Saudi Arabians blew up the twin towers
So we invaded Iraq
It’s quite simple logic in many people’s eyes 👀
USof A
Conned the world and left us all in a hostike terroist ridden cluster Fack
An MP with some balls should stand up in Parliament and say that .
They want to do the same with Syria |  |
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| Syria World War 3 on 09:55 - Apr 20 with 1926 views | Nookiejack |
| Syria World War 3 on 09:46 - Apr 20 by bluey_the_blue |
Simple research tbh. Not difficult to do.
You claimed there have been no terrorist attacks in the West. There have, now you want to put a time limit on your question.
As I said , Iran have zero motivation to commit terror in the est because their target is Israel, not the West.
Iran and Syria have always been pretty evil; their pet organisation Hezbollah "invaded" Lebanon after all to no public outcry. |
For debate whether an assassination is a terrorist attack and Germany seemed to release the 2 men who did it - as part of some wider deal.
You had to work hard though for it 1992.
So as you said Iran has zero motivation to commit terror in the West - so I can then only assume your claim is UK has national interests in the Middle East - so we need to go to war on behalf of Saudi Arabia and Israel against Iran? | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 09:59 - Apr 20 with 1917 views | Nookiejack |
| Syria World War 3 on 09:50 - Apr 20 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Come on it’s blue mun
He’s always been monumentaly wrong about things
He’s a Cardiff fan on here for a wind up and he loves it
Saudi Arabians blew up the twin towers
So we invaded Iraq
It’s quite simple logic in many people’s eyes 👀
USof A
Conned the world and left us all in a hostike terroist ridden cluster Fack
An MP with some balls should stand up in Parliament and say that .
They want to do the same with Syria |
If he is on a wind up - it is quite sick.
How many millions have been killed in Iraq, Libya and Syria because of our actions. | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 10:12 - Apr 20 with 1903 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Syria World War 3 on 09:59 - Apr 20 by Nookiejack |
If he is on a wind up - it is quite sick.
How many millions have been killed in Iraq, Libya and Syria because of our actions. |
Nope, not on a windup.
Tommy fails to grasp I was actually against Iraq and Afghanistan.
Syria is a different matter given the use of chemical weapons by both sides - both of whom need a slap.
It is interesting to see those complaining now conveniently ignoring their silence over Iran and Syria using Lebanon as a proxy to attack Israel. | | | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 10:14 - Apr 20 with 1902 views | Nookiejack |
| Syria World War 3 on 09:59 - Apr 20 by Nookiejack |
If he is on a wind up - it is quite sick.
How many millions have been killed in Iraq, Libya and Syria because of our actions. |
Britain's dirty secret
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/mar/06/uk.iraq
"A chemical plant which the US says is a key component in Iraq's chemical warfare arsenal was secretly built by Britain in 1985 behind the backs of the Americans, the Guardian can disclose.
Documents show British ministers knew at the time that the £14m plant, called Falluja 2, was likely to be used for mustard and nerve gas production.
Senior officials recorded in writing that Saddam Hussein was actively gassing his opponents and that there was a "strong possibility" that the chlorine plant was intended by the Iraqis to make mustard gas. At the time, Saddam was known to be gassing Iranian troops in their thousands in the Iran-Iraq war."
Rumsfeld 'helped Iraq get chemical weapons'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-153210/Rumsfeld-helped-Iraq-chemical-wea | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 10:16 - Apr 20 with 1900 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Syria World War 3 on 10:12 - Apr 20 by bluey_the_blue |
Nope, not on a windup.
Tommy fails to grasp I was actually against Iraq and Afghanistan.
Syria is a different matter given the use of chemical weapons by both sides - both of whom need a slap.
It is interesting to see those complaining now conveniently ignoring their silence over Iran and Syria using Lebanon as a proxy to attack Israel. |
Iraq used chemical on its own people blue but you were against invading? | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 10:23 - Apr 20 with 1896 views | Nookiejack |
| Syria World War 3 on 10:14 - Apr 20 by Nookiejack |
Britain's dirty secret
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/mar/06/uk.iraq
"A chemical plant which the US says is a key component in Iraq's chemical warfare arsenal was secretly built by Britain in 1985 behind the backs of the Americans, the Guardian can disclose.
Documents show British ministers knew at the time that the £14m plant, called Falluja 2, was likely to be used for mustard and nerve gas production.
Senior officials recorded in writing that Saddam Hussein was actively gassing his opponents and that there was a "strong possibility" that the chlorine plant was intended by the Iraqis to make mustard gas. At the time, Saddam was known to be gassing Iranian troops in their thousands in the Iran-Iraq war."
Rumsfeld 'helped Iraq get chemical weapons'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-153210/Rumsfeld-helped-Iraq-chemical-wea |
"Nevertheless, Mr Rumsfeld arranged for the Iraqis to receive billions of pounds in loans to buy weapons and CIA Director William Casey used a Chilean front company to supply Iraq with cluster bombs.
According to the Washington Post, a Senate committee investigating the relationship between the US and Iraq discovered that in the mid-1980s - following the Rumsfeld visit - dozens of biological agents were shipped to Iraq under licence from the Commerce Department.
They included anthrax, subsequently identified by the Pentagon as a key component of the Iraqi biological warfare programme.
The newspaper says: 'The Commerce Department also approved the export of insecticides to Iraq, despite widespread suspicions that they were being used for chemical warfare.'"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-153210/Rumsfeld-helped-Iraq-chemical-wea | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 10:34 - Apr 20 with 1885 views | Nookiejack |
Napalm and Agent Orange in the Vietnam War
https://www.thoughtco.com/napalm-and-agent-orange-in-vietnam-war-195797
"Napalm
Napalm is a gel, which in its original form contained naphthenic and palmitic acid plus petroleum as fuel. The modern version, Napalm B, contains plastic polystyrene, hydrocarbon benzene, and gasoline.
It burns at temperatures of 800-1,200 degrees C (1,500-2,200 degrees F).
When napalm falls on people, the gel sticks to their skin, hair, and clothing, causing unimaginable pain, severe burns, unconsciousness, asphyxiation, and often death. Even those who do not get hit directly with napalm can die from its effects since it burns at such high temperatures that it can create firestorms that use up much of the oxygen in the air. Bystanders also can suffer heat stroke, smoke exposure, and carbon monoxide poisoning.
The US first used napalm during World War II in both the European and Pacific theaters, and also deployed it during the Korean War. However, those instances are dwarfed by American use of napalm in the Vietnam War, where the US dropped almost 400,000 tons of napalm bombs in the decade between 1963 and 1973. Of the Vietnamese people who were on the receiving end, 60% suffered fifth-degree burns, meaning that the burn went down to the bone.
Horrifying as napalm is, its effects at least are time-limited. That is not the case with the other major chemical weapon the US used against Vietnam -- Agent Orange.
Agent Orange
Agent Orange is a liquid mixture containing the 2,4-D and 2,4,5-T herbicides. The compound is toxic for only about a week before it breaks down, but unfortunately, one of its daughter products is the persistent toxin dioxin.
Dioxin lingers in soil, water, and human bodies.
During the Vietnam War, the US sprayed Agent Orange on the jungles and fields of Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia. The Americans sought to defoliate the trees and bushes, so that enemy soldiers would be exposed. They also wanted to kill off the agricultural crops that fed the Viet Cong (as well as local civilians).
The US spread 43 million liters (11.4 million gallons) of Agent Orange on Vietnam, covering 24 percent of south Vietnam with the poison. Over 3,000 villages were in the spray zone. In those areas, dioxin leached into people's bodies, their food, and worst of all, the groundwater. In an underground aquifer, the toxin can remain stable for at least 100 years.
As a result, even decades later, the dioxin continues to cause health problems and birth defects for Vietnamese people in the sprayed area. The Vietnamese government estimates that about 400,000 people have died from Agent Orange poisoning, and about half a million children have been born with birth defects. US and allied veterans who were exposed during the period of heaviest usage and their children may have elevated rates of various cancers, including soft tissue sarcoma, Non-Hodgkin lymphoma, Hodgkin disease, and lymphocytic leukemia.
Victims' groups from Vietnam, Korea, and other places where napalm and Agent Orange were used have sued the primary manufacturers of these chemical weapons, Monsanto and Dow Chemical, on several occasions. In 2006, the companies were ordered to pay $63 million US in damages to South Korean veterans who fought in Vietnam." | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 17:02 - Apr 20 with 1818 views | Lord_Bony |
| Syria World War 3 on 09:46 - Apr 20 by bluey_the_blue |
Simple research tbh. Not difficult to do.
You claimed there have been no terrorist attacks in the West. There have, now you want to put a time limit on your question.
As I said , Iran have zero motivation to commit terror in the est because their target is Israel, not the West.
Iran and Syria have always been pretty evil; their pet organisation Hezbollah "invaded" Lebanon after all to no public outcry. |
One of the biggest terrorist governments is Israel,no regard for international law.
Here they are setting off phosperous indiscriminately as they shell a UN school in Gaza.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/mar/25/israel-white-phosphorus-gaza | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 17:05 - Apr 20 with 1815 views | Shaky |
| Syria World War 3 on 11:47 - Apr 18 by Shaky |
Not sure where this comes from, but there is no doubt Bibi would love a war with Iran. Absolutely love it.
So would the Neocons in Washington re-emboldened by Bolton's appointment as national security advisor.
Already he is making important staff changes, reappointing some of the nutters McMaster had sacked.
The word is their gang were egging on Trump to escalate in Syria, but Mattis talked him down from the ledge and restraint won the day with the recent strikes.
In response the Neocons have launched a significant media attack on Mattis who is one of the few individuals who can handle Trump, no doubt in part due to his military fetish.
Let's hope his rearguard action is successful. |
How Jim Mattis Became Trump’s “Last Man Standing”
The purge that the Defense Secretary survived–and why he might not last.
By Susan B. Glasser
New Yorker, April 20, 2018
Last Tuesday, after waking up to tweet about the previous day’s F.B.I. raid on his lawyer’s office (“A TOTAL WITCH HUNT!!!”), President Trump called one of his outside Republican advisers to ask what to do about Syria, and its latest chemical-weapons attack on civilians. “We should bomb the shit out of them, Mr. President,” came the answer, which was exactly the one Trump seemed to be looking for. Over the weekend, the President, outraged by the photographs of dead children in the Syrian enclave of Douma he had apparently seen on TV, had tweeted vows of retaliation against “Animal Assad,” and the Syrian leader’s backers in Russia and Iran. Trump’s hawkish new national-security adviser, John Bolton, who had started work that Monday, was also pressing for punishing strikes. On the phone call, Trump listened approvingly to the hit-’em-hard advice: that, politically, “the minimum should be bigger than it was last year,” when Trump had launched a single-day strike on a Syrian airfield, designed–unsuccessfully, as it turned out–to deter future chemical-weapons use.
By Friday evening, when the American cruise missiles actually started flying, the vaunted attack had been reduced to a single predawn volley against three Syrian government chemical-weapons facilities, carefully chosen to avoid hitting known Russian or Iranian bases and thus escalating a war from which Trump himself had recently demanded an exit. The strike was bigger than last year’s, but hardly the sustained response with “all instruments of our national power” that the President promised in his televised address announcing the attack.
The reason, as it so often has been over the tumultuous first year and three months of the Trump Presidency, was Defense Secretary James Mattis.
Blunt and no-nonsense, a retired four-star Marine Corps general deemed so tough on Iran that President Barack Obama’s team often clashed with him, Mattis has turned into the secret “peacenik” of the Trump Administration, as a former government official put it to me last week.
Full story: https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/how-jim-mattis-beca |  |
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| Syria World War 3 on 19:28 - Apr 20 with 1749 views | Lord_Bony |
Why do you keep defending your beloved Israeli governments action?
This is part of a 71 page report by Human Rights Watch who report to the UN.
White Phosphorus
Palestinian civilians and medics run to safety during an Israeli strike using phosphorus shells at a UN school. Photograph: Mohammed Abed/AFP
Israel's military fired white phosphorus over crowded areas of Gaza repeatedly and indiscriminately in its three-week war, killing and injuring civilians and committing war crimes, Human Rights Watch said today.
In a 71-page report, the rights group said the repeated use of air-burst white phosphorus artillery shells in populated areas of Gaza was not incidental or accidental, but revealed "a pattern or policy of conduct".
It said the Israeli military used white phosphorus in a "deliberate or reckless" way. The report says:
- Israel was aware of the dangers of white phosphorus.
- It chose not to use alternative and less dangerous smoke shells.
- In one case, Israel even ignored repeated warnings from UN staff before hitting the main UN compound in Gaza with white phosphorus shells on 15 January.
"In Gaza, the Israeli military didn't just use white phosphorus in open areas as a screen for its troops," said Fred Abrahams, a senior Human Rights Watch researcher. "It fired white phosphorus repeatedly over densely populated areas, even when its troops weren't in the area and safe smoke shells were available. As a result, civilians needlessly suffered and died." He said senior commanders should be held to account.
Human Rights Watch called on the UN secretary-general, Ban Ki-moon, to launch an international commission of inquiry to investigate allegations of violations of international law in the Gaza war by the Israeli military and Hamas, the Palestinian Islamist movement that controls Gaza."
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| Syria World War 3 on 19:52 - Apr 20 with 1726 views | bluey_the_blue |
Human Rights Watch are an independent organisation. They are not part of the UN so the whole "report to UN" element is bs.
HRW are bigger than Amnesty International right now sure - different models. HRW are funded by backers, Amnesty through it's members - one funder of HRW is Soros.
But it's yet again interesting that you cite HRW against Israel yet not against Hamas abuses. It's funny that, isn't it? | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 19:56 - Apr 20 with 1724 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Syria World War 3 on 19:52 - Apr 20 by bluey_the_blue |
Human Rights Watch are an independent organisation. They are not part of the UN so the whole "report to UN" element is bs.
HRW are bigger than Amnesty International right now sure - different models. HRW are funded by backers, Amnesty through it's members - one funder of HRW is Soros.
But it's yet again interesting that you cite HRW against Israel yet not against Hamas abuses. It's funny that, isn't it? |
How about we accept that both sides commit abuses, sometimes horrendous acts of evil. Including the Israeli government. |  |
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| Syria World War 3 on 20:12 - Apr 20 with 1717 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Syria World War 3 on 19:56 - Apr 20 by exiledclaseboy |
How about we accept that both sides commit abuses, sometimes horrendous acts of evil. Including the Israeli government. |
Maybe. [Post edited 20 Apr 2018 20:13]
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| Syria World War 3 on 20:17 - Apr 20 with 1712 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Syria World War 3 on 20:12 - Apr 20 by bluey_the_blue |
Maybe. [Post edited 20 Apr 2018 20:13]
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Really? You’ve got it bad mush. | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 20:21 - Apr 20 with 1706 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Syria World War 3 on 20:17 - Apr 20 by exiledclaseboy |
Really? You’ve got it bad mush. |
Not really, just seen too many lies easily exposed. | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 20:41 - Apr 20 with 1690 views | Lord_Bony |
| Syria World War 3 on 20:21 - Apr 20 by bluey_the_blue |
Not really, just seen too many lies easily exposed. |
So the Human Rights Watch are lying about Israel again?
Fair enough. | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 21:08 - Apr 20 with 1664 views | DJack |
| Syria World War 3 on 20:41 - Apr 20 by Lord_Bony |
So the Human Rights Watch are lying about Israel again?
Fair enough. |
I'm glad that you trust them, perhaps you could read this then
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2018/country-chapters/syria |  |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Syria World War 3 on 21:09 - Apr 20 with 1663 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Syria World War 3 on 20:21 - Apr 20 by bluey_the_blue |
Not really, just seen too many lies easily exposed. |
Truth can only be seen by those with truth in them. He who does not have Truth in his heart, will always be blind to it. | |
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