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Where do we stand budget wise for next season? 09:38 - May 16 with 858 views3swan

Projected sales

Mesa £8m
Fab £5m
Mawson £25m

Wages saved on Ki,Britton, Rangel, King, Abraham, Sanches, Mesa, Fab, Mawson - £10m?

Players out on loan Grimes, Fulton, McBurnie, Montero, Borja, Amat – were we covering some of the wages?

So the question is, will we have covered the £50m loss of income by the sale of 3 players and the wages saved?

Edit forgot Ki
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Where do we stand budget wise for next season? on 09:43 - May 16 with 828 viewsomarjack

No,we need to offload Bony and Andre wages.

We can still sell some unwanted players as well like Borja,there are also those who want to leave like Fernandez and Amat as well..that alone is worth 10-12 m in fees.

We can sell players for 50-60 imo..which is we use half of that on bringing 4 players with more limited wages,the club will probably even turn a profit.
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Where do we stand budget wise for next season? on 09:46 - May 16 with 805 viewsPozuelosSideys

What was our wages/income ratio last season? 85/90%? For a business with an income of C£100m which is dropping off to £30m with parachute payments, that's an awful lot of wages needed off the books. Much of that would be covered with player sales I would imagine. £60m reduction maybe?

Correct my figures if they are miles out pls
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Where do we stand budget wise for next season? on 09:49 - May 16 with 784 views3swan

Where do we stand budget wise for next season? on 09:43 - May 16 by omarjack

No,we need to offload Bony and Andre wages.

We can still sell some unwanted players as well like Borja,there are also those who want to leave like Fernandez and Amat as well..that alone is worth 10-12 m in fees.

We can sell players for 50-60 imo..which is we use half of that on bringing 4 players with more limited wages,the club will probably even turn a profit.
[Post edited 16 May 9:47]


Agree.

It was thoughts of anything over and above the post was into the 'kitty' for strengthening.

Throwing it open especially the wages bit.
Will the returning (if) loan players be a total hit or were we covering a big % age of their wage?
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Where do we stand budget wise for next season? on 09:51 - May 16 with 778 viewsomarjack

Where do we stand budget wise for next season? on 09:46 - May 16 by PozuelosSideys

What was our wages/income ratio last season? 85/90%? For a business with an income of C£100m which is dropping off to £30m with parachute payments, that's an awful lot of wages needed off the books. Much of that would be covered with player sales I would imagine. £60m reduction maybe?

Correct my figures if they are miles out pls
[Post edited 16 May 9:46]


Parachute payments for the 1st year will be 53 m,not 30.

our income will go down from 127 m to around 70 m

..and with wage cuts and relegation clauses our wage bill will be cut about 40%..our expenses will be around 80-90 m

we'll sell players for about 50 m let's say..we might use 25-30 m to build the squad.

income+sale surplus=90 m

we'll break even like that..or make a small profit.
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Where do we stand budget wise for next season? on 09:53 - May 16 with 762 views3swan

Where do we stand budget wise for next season? on 09:46 - May 16 by PozuelosSideys

What was our wages/income ratio last season? 85/90%? For a business with an income of C£100m which is dropping off to £30m with parachute payments, that's an awful lot of wages needed off the books. Much of that would be covered with player sales I would imagine. £60m reduction maybe?

Correct my figures if they are miles out pls
[Post edited 16 May 9:46]


I'm only looking at next season.

The parachute drop to £30m doesn't come into the conversation as we will be back in the Prem with c£100m

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Where do we stand budget wise for next season? on 10:23 - May 16 with 697 viewsjackjackjackjack

Where do we stand budget wise for next season? on 09:51 - May 16 by omarjack

Parachute payments for the 1st year will be 53 m,not 30.

our income will go down from 127 m to around 70 m

..and with wage cuts and relegation clauses our wage bill will be cut about 40%..our expenses will be around 80-90 m

we'll sell players for about 50 m let's say..we might use 25-30 m to build the squad.

income+sale surplus=90 m

we'll break even like that..or make a small profit.


But the next season we'll drop another £20m, and another £15m the season after that.

So pointless signing on players for £5m/£10m, and giving them 3/4 year deals, as we won't be able to afford it. Need to be looking at free transfers and loans.

Most Championship clubs make loss anyway, so it's likely we'll have to add debt, unless we cut to the bone.

Poll: Do you think the owners will sack Huw Jenkins?

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Where do we stand budget wise for next season? on 14:45 - May 16 with 478 viewsawayjack

Where do we stand budget wise for next season? on 10:23 - May 16 by jackjackjackjack

But the next season we'll drop another £20m, and another £15m the season after that.

So pointless signing on players for £5m/£10m, and giving them 3/4 year deals, as we won't be able to afford it. Need to be looking at free transfers and loans.

Most Championship clubs make loss anyway, so it's likely we'll have to add debt, unless we cut to the bone.


Agree we'll target free or loans for new players or maybe some low cost experienced players.
Don't expect any big signings, and with so many underperforming players on our books, look to get some to agree to 6 months in Championship to recover fitness / form before sale in inflated Jan window. I think most of those already abroad - Amat, Mesa, Montero, Baston - won't return and maybe raise £15m or so. Add to this Fabs, Fernandez, Ki plus English qualified like Naughton, Carrol and Clucas maybe another £25m of the market is as inflated as last year. With retirees and loanees going back that's still 14-15 players out, £40m or so in (albiet phased!) and critically another £25m or so off the payroll.

What does that leave us with? News Mawson unlikely to be fit at start of season rules out a big money exit. Fitness form issues with Bony, Fer and Ayew, so may start season with this lot, keep likes of Nord, VDH, Bartley and Ollson, that are not worth much but may do OK in Chamionship - pull back some loanees (Ollie/Fulton) and mix with a few u23 like Roberts/James.

Yanks may feel keep fans if we keep, then flog in inflated Jan window if they recover form/fitness. 6 months wont make huge difference in cash-flow the way transfers are spread over years these days.
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