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Promotion favourites with the bookies 14:56 - May 16 with 5084 viewsthornabyswan

The bookies have us favourites to go up next season.

Swansea 9/4
West Brom 11/4
Stoke 11/4
Boro 4/1
Derby 4/1
Brentford 5/1
Leeds 6/1

We are 33/1 to get relegated incredible odds really.

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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 15:00 - May 16 with 3476 viewspencoedjack

33/1 looks decent odds
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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 15:10 - May 16 with 3376 viewsthornabyswan

Promotion favourites with the bookies on 15:00 - May 16 by pencoedjack

33/1 looks decent odds


It is yes considering the amount of work that needs to be done in the summer I just can't believe we are favourites to be honest.

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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 15:49 - May 16 with 3222 viewsJacket

They must have been talking to Tutumlu! How the foook did they arrive at that conclusion? Let's have a look at the relegated trio. One is owned by the biggest betting firm in the world, one has a track record of bouncing back and one has been clinging on for grim death for 3 years, yep we'll go for them. Unreal. Hope they're right mind.
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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 15:58 - May 16 with 3161 viewsAce_Jack

Stoke, West Brom and Villa if Fulham go up will be huge realistic favorites surely?
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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 15:59 - May 16 with 3155 viewsFireboy2

Promotion favourites with the bookies on 15:00 - May 16 by pencoedjack

33/1 looks decent odds


Think i will be putting a brownie on that
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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 16:48 - May 16 with 2930 viewssainthelens

Really is lazy by the bookies. 9/4 FFS. Absolutely bonkers. That 33/1 to go down is massive, to good to miss for any neutral.
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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 16:50 - May 16 with 2915 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Promotion favourites with the bookies on 16:48 - May 16 by sainthelens

Really is lazy by the bookies. 9/4 FFS. Absolutely bonkers. That 33/1 to go down is massive, to good to miss for any neutral.


In a mess on and off the field. 33 to 1 sounds good.
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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 16:50 - May 16 with 2907 viewspencoedjack

Promotion favourites with the bookies on 16:48 - May 16 by sainthelens

Really is lazy by the bookies. 9/4 FFS. Absolutely bonkers. That 33/1 to go down is massive, to good to miss for any neutral.


3 relegated teams followed by losing play off finalist

OP you have a link ?
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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 18:15 - May 16 with 2696 viewsThe_undecided

Were Cardiff not 33/1 to get into the playoffs? Bookies often get it wrong.

It is pretty obvious for the top 3 favorites for next season to be this years relegation clubs, no real thought gone into those odds, with us being 18th we are favorites to pop back up, but we know there are bigger problems at the club.



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/05/17/teams-now-bounce-back-premier-le
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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 18:18 - May 16 with 2666 viewsJack11

Watching the play offs has given me confidence that we can do it. Particularly last night.
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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 18:35 - May 16 with 2577 viewsthornabyswan

Promotion favourites with the bookies on 16:50 - May 16 by pencoedjack

3 relegated teams followed by losing play off finalist

OP you have a link ?


https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-ch

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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:13 - May 16 with 2313 viewsTheKirkyLife

Promotion favourites with the bookies on 18:18 - May 16 by Jack11

Watching the play offs has given me confidence that we can do it. Particularly last night.


I've taken a look back at Newcastle's relegated squad a couple of years ago.

Did alright didn't they?

We need to get the managerial choice spot on this Summer and ensure that the players we bring in either bring experience/steel or youthful energy for the future sure as Dhanda.
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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:17 - May 16 with 2267 viewsTheResurrection

Promotion favourites with the bookies on 15:10 - May 16 by thornabyswan

It is yes considering the amount of work that needs to be done in the summer I just can't believe we are favourites to be honest.


And that's the exact reason we got relegated.

Our fans chose to give up and basically became an asset to our opposition than a help to our own.

Even now most are not even understanding the massive chance we have of going straight back up, instead more are enjoying talking about relegation.

We'll have the biggest budget next season if we make wise and decisive choices. When ever in our history could we have ever said that before?

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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:20 - May 16 with 2252 viewssainthelens

Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:17 - May 16 by TheResurrection

And that's the exact reason we got relegated.

Our fans chose to give up and basically became an asset to our opposition than a help to our own.

Even now most are not even understanding the massive chance we have of going straight back up, instead more are enjoying talking about relegation.

We'll have the biggest budget next season if we make wise and decisive choices. When ever in our history could we have ever said that before?


And of course we all recall how optimistic you were at start of last season.
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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:24 - May 16 with 2222 viewsTheResurrection

Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:20 - May 16 by sainthelens

And of course we all recall how optimistic you were at start of last season.


Is that so bad then?

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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:26 - May 16 with 2215 viewsmoonie

" choices" is indeed he key word .
Right now ,we can't decide on the manager
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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:28 - May 16 with 2205 viewsthornabyswan

Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:17 - May 16 by TheResurrection

And that's the exact reason we got relegated.

Our fans chose to give up and basically became an asset to our opposition than a help to our own.

Even now most are not even understanding the massive chance we have of going straight back up, instead more are enjoying talking about relegation.

We'll have the biggest budget next season if we make wise and decisive choices. When ever in our history could we have ever said that before?


There is an opportunity yes.
9/4 does seem short though considering the mess we made of recruitment last summer.
33/1 is also very generous on relegation.
It all hinges on whether the owners words of a overhaul of the recruitment process are just that words.
Also nobody really knows for sure what the owners intentions are.

If I had a pound for everytime I had seen asset stripping or parachute payments mentioned on here I would be a wealthy man now.

A lot of our fans don't trust them to try and do the right thing.
I really hope they do.

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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:30 - May 16 with 2191 viewssainthelens

Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:24 - May 16 by TheResurrection

Is that so bad then?


Far from it, in fact very commendable. But it's time I think we dealt in the harsh reality of what's in store. I'll hold my hands up by saying I thought all along we'd stay up... guilty of self dillusion. Our club is a real mess right now from top to bottom, and until there are proper signs of anything positive ( of which there's none at the moment), my optimism is tempered.
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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:49 - May 16 with 2094 viewsTheResurrection

Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:30 - May 16 by sainthelens

Far from it, in fact very commendable. But it's time I think we dealt in the harsh reality of what's in store. I'll hold my hands up by saying I thought all along we'd stay up... guilty of self dillusion. Our club is a real mess right now from top to bottom, and until there are proper signs of anything positive ( of which there's none at the moment), my optimism is tempered.


So did I unfortunately, well I did after the Arsenal home game

We are at a crossroads more than in a mess I think and we could be looking at this 'correction ' as a blessing in disguise and a chance to clear the decks.

In some ways it's good the ghosts of the very successful past are leaving. Leon and Angel I'm talking about. And I genuinely love those two so I mean no disrespect whatsoever. But they were also a reminder of what once was, Dyer and Routs to a certain degree as well.

We need to find a new identity, we don't have to force our old identity on ourselves as that could be a dangerous strategy, I think it's OK to look at what worked before and keep it in mind but the most important aspect will be respecting the new manager and what he's trying to do.

It would be nice to play with wingers again but we can't afford to be football purist snobs. To a degree this has had quite some impact on how we support and we have become our own worst enemy

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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:52 - May 16 with 2084 viewsbyron

When we came down a few years ago they made us favourites to go back up, also, I think boro were favourites this season? None of the teams that got relegated last season made it back either.
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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:54 - May 16 with 2069 viewsLoyal

Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:52 - May 16 by byron

When we came down a few years ago they made us favourites to go back up, also, I think boro were favourites this season? None of the teams that got relegated last season made it back either.


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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:56 - May 16 with 2059 viewsJonathans_coat

Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:17 - May 16 by TheResurrection

And that's the exact reason we got relegated.

Our fans chose to give up and basically became an asset to our opposition than a help to our own.

Even now most are not even understanding the massive chance we have of going straight back up, instead more are enjoying talking about relegation.

We'll have the biggest budget next season if we make wise and decisive choices. When ever in our history could we have ever said that before?


Sorry res but can’t agree that the “exact reason” we were relegated was because “our fans chose to give up”. Let’s be honest, there a quite a few bigger issues than that. To blame the fans for the poor recruitment and poor tactics and performance is just incorrect.

However I totally agree with what I think the sentiment of your post is. We will have one of the best squads in the championship (as flawed as it might be), and we should be looking to bounce back up as soon as possible. We have 3/4 seasons to do it really, otherwise it might be a very long time or not at all.
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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:56 - May 16 with 2059 viewsLoyal

Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:13 - May 16 by TheKirkyLife

I've taken a look back at Newcastle's relegated squad a couple of years ago.

Did alright didn't they?

We need to get the managerial choice spot on this Summer and ensure that the players we bring in either bring experience/steel or youthful energy for the future sure as Dhanda.


Apart from that prick Michael Owen they all pledged to stay and fight for the club.
Not one of ours has said a thing except, fck you, I'm off.

Cnts.

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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 21:18 - May 16 with 1981 viewssainthelens

Promotion favourites with the bookies on 20:56 - May 16 by Loyal

Apart from that prick Michael Owen they all pledged to stay and fight for the club.
Not one of ours has said a thing except, fck you, I'm off.

Cnts.


And that last bit is what's worrying me. Do the squad know that there are big problems looming? They will know far more than us. Or is there total disbelief in what direction the board and club as a whole are handling everything? As a fan, I'm still totally gutted, and seeing them all flee is not filling me with hope.
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Promotion favourites with the bookies on 21:30 - May 16 with 1931 viewsRiscaJack

Promotion favourites with the bookies on 21:18 - May 16 by sainthelens

And that last bit is what's worrying me. Do the squad know that there are big problems looming? They will know far more than us. Or is there total disbelief in what direction the board and club as a whole are handling everything? As a fan, I'm still totally gutted, and seeing them all flee is not filling me with hope.


The Andy King thing is what has worried me if it’s true he has said he doesn’t want to stay permanently. He’s been decent enough but I didn’t think there would be Premier League sides falling over themselves chasing him.

My natural pessimistic side coming out though probably. I can’t wait for the clear out now, get rid of high earners and hopefully get back to playing some decent stuff again with young hungry players. I think there will be a struggle though before we can contend again personally.

JENKINS OUT

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