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England v Belgium 21:15 - Jun 27 with 5968 viewsPegojack

Both teams want to lose to go into the weaker half of the draw! Martinez threatening to 'rest' ten players.
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England v Belgium on 21:16 - Jun 27 with 2771 viewsNeath_Jack

Makes sense if there is a big difference in the quality of opponent.

Who are the options of playing?

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England v Belgium on 21:17 - Jun 27 with 2766 viewspencoedjack

Momentum in football is a wonderful thing in my opinion

I hate to say it but England along with Belgium & Croatia are the best teams I have seen this WC
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England v Belgium on 21:19 - Jun 27 with 2758 viewsJoe_bradshaw

Belgium hold all the cards. If they don’t score and don’t kick anyone they will finish second.

Don’t play Fellaini, Bob.

Of course, it could finish 15 - 15 with 30 own goals.

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England v Belgium on 21:20 - Jun 27 with 2749 viewsthornabyswan

England v Belgium on 21:17 - Jun 27 by pencoedjack

Momentum in football is a wonderful thing in my opinion

I hate to say it but England along with Belgium & Croatia are the best teams I have seen this WC


Can't see anyone stopping Brazil only going half pelt at the moment.

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England v Belgium on 21:20 - Jun 27 with 2749 viewsPegojack

England v Belgium on 21:16 - Jun 27 by Neath_Jack

Makes sense if there is a big difference in the quality of opponent.

Who are the options of playing?


Can't remember all the permutations but if England finish second, they avoid Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay.

They play Forest Green Rovers, Plasmarl or Mumbles U11's, something like that.
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England v Belgium on 21:23 - Jun 27 with 2731 viewsJoe_bradshaw

England v Belgium on 21:20 - Jun 27 by thornabyswan

Can't see anyone stopping Brazil only going half pelt at the moment.


A decent team would have scored 2 or 3 against Brazil tonight.

They are gaining momentum though and will probably only get better.

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England v Belgium on 21:25 - Jun 27 with 2726 viewsthornabyswan

England v Belgium on 21:20 - Jun 27 by Pegojack

Can't remember all the permutations but if England finish second, they avoid Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay.

They play Forest Green Rovers, Plasmarl or Mumbles U11's, something like that.


If they finish 2nd they play Switzerland or Sweden in the quarters.
If they win the group it's France or Argentina.
I would like to see them play Columbia in the last 16.
If they play like they did against Poland England won't have to worry about the quarter finals.

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England v Belgium on 21:41 - Jun 27 with 2670 viewsthornabyswan

England v Belgium on 21:25 - Jun 27 by thornabyswan

If they finish 2nd they play Switzerland or Sweden in the quarters.
If they win the group it's France or Argentina.
I would like to see them play Columbia in the last 16.
If they play like they did against Poland England won't have to worry about the quarter finals.


England are likely to play Brazil in the quarters if they win the group not France or Argentina.
Think I will have a little bet on 0.0 for Eng v Belgium game.

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England v Belgium on 21:58 - Jun 27 with 2613 viewsFireboy2

England v Belgium on 21:23 - Jun 27 by Joe_bradshaw

A decent team would have scored 2 or 3 against Brazil tonight.

They are gaining momentum though and will probably only get better.


Once they weathered the storms of the first part of the 1st and 2nd halves they settled down and played well,in 2nd gear,thats my opinion though

But i agree with you on them gaining momentum and will only get better
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England v Belgium on 22:18 - Jun 27 with 2560 viewsGroo

England v Belgium on 21:20 - Jun 27 by thornabyswan

Can't see anyone stopping Brazil only going half pelt at the moment.


Have Brazil ever won it outside South America?

Googled my own question, yes, in Sweden, USA and Japan.
[Post edited 27 Jun 2018 22:20]

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England v Belgium on 22:34 - Jun 27 with 2506 viewsJoe_bradshaw

England v Belgium on 21:19 - Jun 27 by Joe_bradshaw

Belgium hold all the cards. If they don’t score and don’t kick anyone they will finish second.

Don’t play Fellaini, Bob.

Of course, it could finish 15 - 15 with 30 own goals.


I'm guilty of Muddled thinking here. I blame lunchtime wine which is now wearing off.

If it's a draw the team with the most yellows finishes second so it could be nil nil and like a war zone out there.

Can England kick their way to second place?

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England v Belgium on 22:38 - Jun 27 with 2496 viewssainthelens

Yet again the arrogance surrounding the England team beggars belief. They think they can progress by going into the " easy half " of the draw.
Don't they recall Iceland at the last euro's?!!. Honestly...so hope they get a real pasting off whoever next round.
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England v Belgium on 22:44 - Jun 27 with 2471 viewsthornabyswan

England v Belgium on 22:34 - Jun 27 by Joe_bradshaw

I'm guilty of Muddled thinking here. I blame lunchtime wine which is now wearing off.

If it's a draw the team with the most yellows finishes second so it could be nil nil and like a war zone out there.

Can England kick their way to second place?


It worked for the scum last season.

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England v Belgium on 22:51 - Jun 27 with 2445 viewsTNT

England v Belgium on 22:44 - Jun 27 by thornabyswan

It worked for the scum last season.


It'll end in tears for both.

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England v Belgium on 23:44 - Jun 27 with 2364 viewsmonmouth

Nothing to see here. England will be in the easier half of the draw simply because they are in it.

Honestly, the English media. Apparently Hank Kane is now up with Ronny, Neymar and Messi because he's scored a few goals against two pub teams. They'll never change.

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England v Belgium on 06:16 - Jun 28 with 2241 viewspeenemunde

England v Belgium on 22:38 - Jun 27 by sainthelens

Yet again the arrogance surrounding the England team beggars belief. They think they can progress by going into the " easy half " of the draw.
Don't they recall Iceland at the last euro's?!!. Honestly...so hope they get a real pasting off whoever next round.


What English person has said “they can progress by going into the easy half”
You don’t half talk rubbish.
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England v Belgium on 07:08 - Jun 28 with 2209 viewssainthelens

England v Belgium on 06:16 - Jun 28 by peenemunde

What English person has said “they can progress by going into the easy half”
You don’t half talk rubbish.


And you are deluded. All the media talk is about wanting to finish 2nd in their group thus going into the easy half of the draw.
Any comment from you saying otherwise is another example of an England fan displaying the arrogance we all detest.
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England v Belgium on 07:47 - Jun 28 with 2151 viewspeenemunde

England v Belgium on 07:08 - Jun 28 by sainthelens

And you are deluded. All the media talk is about wanting to finish 2nd in their group thus going into the easy half of the draw.
Any comment from you saying otherwise is another example of an England fan displaying the arrogance we all detest.


So if it was wales, I’d suppose you would want the harder half.
It the Welsh that have a chip on their shoulders from what I can see.
And I’m Welsh.
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England v Belgium on 07:54 - Jun 28 with 2148 viewssainthelens

England v Belgium on 07:47 - Jun 28 by peenemunde

So if it was wales, I’d suppose you would want the harder half.
It the Welsh that have a chip on their shoulders from what I can see.
And I’m Welsh.


Ah yes...the footballing giant that is the Wales national team. A side that's qualified for 1 tournament in a million yrs.
If we were there, any half of a draw would be as difficult as the other.
Jesus wept.
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England v Belgium on 08:44 - Jun 28 with 2089 viewsChief

England v Belgium on 21:23 - Jun 27 by Joe_bradshaw

A decent team would have scored 2 or 3 against Brazil tonight.

They are gaining momentum though and will probably only get better.


Even though England have conceded in both their matches so far? against the mighty Tunisia and Panama

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England v Belgium on 09:06 - Jun 28 with 2039 viewspeenemunde

England v Belgium on 07:54 - Jun 28 by sainthelens

Ah yes...the footballing giant that is the Wales national team. A side that's qualified for 1 tournament in a million yrs.
If we were there, any half of a draw would be as difficult as the other.
Jesus wept.


Every team in the World Cup would prefer an easier route.
And if wales were there the Welsh media would be the same as the English.
[Post edited 28 Jun 2018 9:07]
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England v Belgium on 09:18 - Jun 28 with 2029 viewssainthelens

England v Belgium on 09:06 - Jun 28 by peenemunde

Every team in the World Cup would prefer an easier route.
And if wales were there the Welsh media would be the same as the English.
[Post edited 28 Jun 2018 9:07]


So I wasn't talking rubbish.
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England v Belgium on 09:22 - Jun 28 with 2020 viewsawayjack

England v Belgium on 21:23 - Jun 27 by Joe_bradshaw

A decent team would have scored 2 or 3 against Brazil tonight.

They are gaining momentum though and will probably only get better.


Agree. Brazil look good going forward but their defence is poor. Serbia missed a hatful of chances tonight.
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England v Belgium on 09:46 - Jun 28 with 1984 viewsJango

England v Belgium on 23:44 - Jun 27 by monmouth

Nothing to see here. England will be in the easier half of the draw simply because they are in it.

Honestly, the English media. Apparently Hank Kane is now up with Ronny, Neymar and Messi because he's scored a few goals against two pub teams. They'll never change.


Biased English media aside, Kane is up there with the best of them in my opinion. Totally different player to those 3 but as out and out strikers go there’s not many Better if any.

Anyway, if England finish 1st or 2nd I can’t see them having it easy against Senegal, Columbia or Japan.
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England v Belgium on 09:50 - Jun 28 with 1976 viewsLeonWasGod

It's lazy talk. France and Croatia have if anything looked like 2 of the better teams in this tournament. Argentina have huffed and puffed, as have Brazil. Trying to second guess how the games will pan out, largely based on their reputation, is a pretty pointless exercise. If I was Southgate I'd treat this like any other match.
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