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Boris Johnson racist towards Islam and Muslin women. Is that Ok?
Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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Conservative party racist again on 10:41 - Aug 7 with 1450 views
Conservative party racist again on 09:47 - Aug 7 by LeonWasGod
Now this is the problem with the binary politicisation of what Boris said. He's either great or an abomination depending on whether you're a Tory or not or whether you're pro-Brexit or not, etc. It mirrors the rest of public issues today where the level of discourse is frankly appalling.
Yet there is a much bigger issue behind all of this, as you highlight. Personally I think that people can wear what they want. But there is a link between the Burkha and religious fundamentalism (which isn't good whatever the religion) and repression of people's rights, etc. We've all seen the pictures of Afghanistan a few decades back with woman walking around with loose hair and short skirts. And here's the Bin Ladens on their holidays:
There's a certain irony in defending the Burkha when it itself has been used as an item of repression in certain countries. But as I said, I couldn't care less what people wear here in the UK as long as long as it's a free choice (even Darran's shirts are ok; well, some of them).
My first post was just about having a sense of perspective when it comes to our own alleged sins. If pushed further, all I will say is that some of us who have in the past worked in certain Islamic countries are suspicious about the 'it is the woman's choice' argument.
Actually the UK is at the more permissive end of the spectrum when it comes to law and attitudes regarding religious dress. Recently I had a short spell working in China where many provinces have banned full-face coverings. I write this from a (different) country where the beheadings of Buddhist monks and teachers by Islamist secessionists have been a regular news item in recent years. There is no ban on the veil because it was never widely used by Muslims in this part of the world, but I would not say that tolerance of the religion is any greater than in the UK.
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Conservative party racist again on 10:49 - Aug 7 with 1431 views
So Bojo has caused offence by saying these women look like letter boxes. JP advises that mr Johnson should apologise to all the letter boxes in the U.K at once.
Jackportis the brand. “A gifted posterâ€, “planet swans have a real talent on their hands in the name of Jackportis†sky sports 2018. . JP fully supports posters of LBG, mx orientation and ethnic minority groups. Update - now fully supporting the pansexual community.
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Conservative party racist again on 22:24 - Aug 7 with 1303 views
"Some people are saying it's racism...last time I last time I looked Islam wasn't a race" - Conservative MP Andrew Bridgen defends Boris Johnson's article comparing Muslim women in burqas to bank robbers and letterboxes pic.twitter.com/hDUXy7I5cn
Conservative party racist again on 08:48 - Aug 7 by omarjack
Isn't it funny when you lot set your standards so low you actually compare yourselves to crazy, ultra religious militias in 3rd world countries?
There is no difference between the scum in the link and the nazi scum who target immigrants and force them to take off their clothing and in some cases kill them.
UPDATE: Sam Woodward, the accused killer of Blaze Bernstein, a gay and Jewish college student, will be charged with a hate crime. @ProPublica revealed earlier this year that Woodward was a member of a neo-Nazi group called Atomwaffen Division. Read more: https://t.co/kXAcuq6d23pic.twitter.com/v3AOHM9Bn2
You come out with so many generalisations and tar everyone with the same brush.
Youre comparing the Third Reich with the Tory Party ffs. Somehow in the last few years, despite moving to the left, the Tories have branded "far right".. looool
And oh.. "you lot"? You fcking little bigot.
"Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper."
Conservative party racist again on 17:55 - Aug 8 by PozuelosSideys
You come out with so many generalisations and tar everyone with the same brush.
Youre comparing the Third Reich with the Tory Party ffs. Somehow in the last few years, despite moving to the left, the Tories have branded "far right".. looool
And oh.. "you lot"? You fcking little bigot.
And Mart6, you can fck off as well you tedious little mute.
Grow a set and voice an opinion
"Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper."
Johnson makes yet another shit comment as a jokey comment; righteous fury.
Lady Nugee, who previous said she'd not want someone with a burqa treating her child as she'd want to see her face, Sadiq Khan's comments against the Burqa... hmm, relative silence.
The main whiner is Baroness Warsi - fired as Tory party chairman for incompetence, whines about Boris increasing "hate crimes" whilst not considering her past homophobic comments could increase crimes against gays...
Lady Nugee's comments...
“I wouldn’t want my four year old looked after by somebody wearing a burka. I wouldn’t want my elderly mum looked after by somebody wearing a burka. They need to be able to show their face. I wouldn’t mind if they worked in records in the hospital.”
Perhaps people can explain the lack of complaints about that?
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Conservative party racist again on 19:04 - Aug 8 with 1147 views
Conservative party racist again on 18:50 - Aug 8 by bluey_the_blue
It's amazing.
Johnson makes yet another shit comment as a jokey comment; righteous fury.
Lady Nugee, who previous said she'd not want someone with a burqa treating her child as she'd want to see her face, Sadiq Khan's comments against the Burqa... hmm, relative silence.
The main whiner is Baroness Warsi - fired as Tory party chairman for incompetence, whines about Boris increasing "hate crimes" whilst not considering her past homophobic comments could increase crimes against gays...
Lady Nugee's comments...
“I wouldn’t want my four year old looked after by somebody wearing a burka. I wouldn’t want my elderly mum looked after by somebody wearing a burka. They need to be able to show their face. I wouldn’t mind if they worked in records in the hospital.”
Perhaps people can explain the lack of complaints about that?
[Post edited 8 Aug 2018 19:02]
If Jezza said that's Jewish sidecurls looked like twiglets, you would be up in arms blue you. But as Boris the Tory said it against other religions it seems to be ok with you.
Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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Conservative party racist again on 19:07 - Aug 8 with 1145 views
Conservative party racist again on 19:04 - Aug 8 by builthjack
If Jezza said that's Jewish sidecurls looked like twiglets, you would be up in arms blue you. But as Boris the Tory said it against other religions it seems to be ok with you.
Really?
Personally, I'm against the Burkha, as many people are - in a lot of cases, it's used to repress women. There are a lots of numerous identity issues it causes - someone taking a driving test for example.
In this instance, his anti-Burkha views are shared by numerous Labourites. Care to explain precisely how his really shit jokey attempt was worse than Lady Nugee's comments? How was it worse than Sadiq Khan's comments?
The irony is your pathetic attempt to plaint me as Islamophobic whilst ignore Labour comments on the matter of the Burkha...
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Conservative party racist again on 19:21 - Aug 8 with 1135 views
Conservative party racist again on 18:50 - Aug 8 by bluey_the_blue
It's amazing.
Johnson makes yet another shit comment as a jokey comment; righteous fury.
Lady Nugee, who previous said she'd not want someone with a burqa treating her child as she'd want to see her face, Sadiq Khan's comments against the Burqa... hmm, relative silence.
The main whiner is Baroness Warsi - fired as Tory party chairman for incompetence, whines about Boris increasing "hate crimes" whilst not considering her past homophobic comments could increase crimes against gays...
Lady Nugee's comments...
“I wouldn’t want my four year old looked after by somebody wearing a burka. I wouldn’t want my elderly mum looked after by somebody wearing a burka. They need to be able to show their face. I wouldn’t mind if they worked in records in the hospital.”
Perhaps people can explain the lack of complaints about that?
[Post edited 8 Aug 2018 19:02]
Thornberry raised a valid point that patients being treated at a hospital have the right to expect to be able to see the face of the person treating them. It aids communication and trust amd was a reasonable addition to an ongoing debate.
Sadiq Khan asked whether burka wearers should be allowed to remain veiled when using public services. Again, a valid point in what is a valid debate.
Johnson said that women who wear burkas look like letterboxes amd bank robbers. It’s dehumanising language so beloved of the current populist movement on the right and it’s no surprise that Boris has been spending a lot of time with Bannon recently. If you can’t see the difference or are happy to ignore it to practice yet another bout of “yeah but not but what about labour” then I pity you.
Conservative party racist again on 19:07 - Aug 8 by bluey_the_blue
Really?
Personally, I'm against the Burkha, as many people are - in a lot of cases, it's used to repress women. There are a lots of numerous identity issues it causes - someone taking a driving test for example.
In this instance, his anti-Burkha views are shared by numerous Labourites. Care to explain precisely how his really shit jokey attempt was worse than Lady Nugee's comments? How was it worse than Sadiq Khan's comments?
The irony is your pathetic attempt to plaint me as Islamophobic whilst ignore Labour comments on the matter of the Burkha...
#jackthehack
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Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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Conservative party racist again on 20:09 - Aug 8 with 1079 views
Conservative party racist again on 18:50 - Aug 8 by bluey_the_blue
It's amazing.
Johnson makes yet another shit comment as a jokey comment; righteous fury.
Lady Nugee, who previous said she'd not want someone with a burqa treating her child as she'd want to see her face, Sadiq Khan's comments against the Burqa... hmm, relative silence.
The main whiner is Baroness Warsi - fired as Tory party chairman for incompetence, whines about Boris increasing "hate crimes" whilst not considering her past homophobic comments could increase crimes against gays...
Lady Nugee's comments...
“I wouldn’t want my four year old looked after by somebody wearing a burka. I wouldn’t want my elderly mum looked after by somebody wearing a burka. They need to be able to show their face. I wouldn’t mind if they worked in records in the hospital.”
Perhaps people can explain the lack of complaints about that?
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It wasn’t a jokey comment, it was an article in the Telegraph.
So it was considered, deliberate, and designed to demean for the purpose of self publicity.
It’s one thing to say you don’t like the Burqa and you believe it’s a symbol of oppression. It’s quite another to mock the women that wear it and attempt to dehumanise them for cheap laughs.
Boris Johnson is a disgusting, reprehensible piece of crap that will do and say anything for the sake of Boris Johnson. He’s always been the same.
And it goes without saying that if he’d made a similarly ‘jokey’ comment about Jewish people you’d have been up in arms about it. And rightly so.
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Conservative party racist again on 20:40 - Aug 8 with 1018 views
Conservative party racist again on 20:31 - Aug 8 by londonlisa2001
It wasn’t a jokey comment, it was an article in the Telegraph.
So it was considered, deliberate, and designed to demean for the purpose of self publicity.
It’s one thing to say you don’t like the Burqa and you believe it’s a symbol of oppression. It’s quite another to mock the women that wear it and attempt to dehumanise them for cheap laughs.
Boris Johnson is a disgusting, reprehensible piece of crap that will do and say anything for the sake of Boris Johnson. He’s always been the same.
And it goes without saying that if he’d made a similarly ‘jokey’ comment about Jewish people you’d have been up in arms about it. And rightly so.
”And it goes without saying that if he’d made a similarly ‘jokey’ comment about Jewish people you’d have been up in arms about it. And rightly so.
No he wouldn’t. Bluey isn’t a nutter nor is he absurdly touchy. Jewish attire forms the basis of an entire comedic sub-culture, mun!
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
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Conservative party racist again on 20:46 - Aug 8 with 993 views
Conservative party racist again on 20:40 - Aug 8 by Lohengrin
”And it goes without saying that if he’d made a similarly ‘jokey’ comment about Jewish people you’d have been up in arms about it. And rightly so.
No he wouldn’t. Bluey isn’t a nutter nor is he absurdly touchy. Jewish attire forms the basis of an entire comedic sub-culture, mun!
Yes. He would.
It’s nonsense I’m afraid.
Like the Burqa, don’t like the Burqa, or the Hijab or the Niqab (for the record I don’t like it and believe it’s a cultural issue rather than a religious issue, unlike the headscarf ), but pretending to have concern for ‘oppressed women’ and then choosing to mock those women rather than accuse the men that supposedly oppress them in the first place, is infantile, populist bollox designed to appeal to half wits.
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Conservative party racist again on 20:47 - Aug 8 with 991 views
Conservative party racist again on 20:40 - Aug 8 by Lohengrin
”And it goes without saying that if he’d made a similarly ‘jokey’ comment about Jewish people you’d have been up in arms about it. And rightly so.
No he wouldn’t. Bluey isn’t a nutter nor is he absurdly touchy. Jewish attire forms the basis of an entire comedic sub-culture, mun!
You’re kidding right? Bluey is a one man outrage machine when it comes to all things Jewish. I dint blame him of course, he’s got a vested interest. He’s also a massive hypocrite. And a cardiffian.
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