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Good news for Wales... 02:44 - Sep 11 with 2401 viewsDJack

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45477140

Well paid jobs I would have thought.

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Good news for Wales... on 04:17 - Sep 11 with 1666 viewspikeypaul

The remoaners will be fuming.since they hate good news and are happy to cut their nose off to spite their face.

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Good news for Wales... on 06:32 - Sep 11 with 1625 viewspeenemunde

Good news for Wales... on 04:17 - Sep 11 by pikeypaul

The remoaners will be fuming.since they hate good news and are happy to cut their nose off to spite their face.

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They certainly won’t like it.
Just shows the remoaning sides lies once again.
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Good news for Wales... on 06:57 - Sep 11 with 1604 viewszedlep

Do you two ever give it a rest?
Always looking for the angle to press your unpopular politics.
Anything raising the profile of Wales is good to help in stopping England regaurding us as the sh@thole of the UK.

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Good news for Wales... on 07:01 - Sep 11 with 1598 viewspeenemunde

Good news for Wales... on 06:57 - Sep 11 by zedlep

Do you two ever give it a rest?
Always looking for the angle to press your unpopular politics.
Anything raising the profile of Wales is good to help in stopping England regaurding us as the sh@thole of the UK.


Unpopular ? What planet do you live on.
Wales voted to leave, so did Swansea.
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Good news for Wales... on 07:24 - Sep 11 with 1573 viewszedlep

Good news for Wales... on 07:01 - Sep 11 by peenemunde

Unpopular ? What planet do you live on.
Wales voted to leave, so did Swansea.


Yes I know. Wales has just as many (proportionately) Dad’s Army-minded thickies as England. With hind-sight the fury aimed at a corrupt EU (Christ, I’m starting to sound like that knobber Trump!) should have been aimed at a Prime Minister who was so concerned with keeping his job that he decided to put that particular ‘loaded gun’ in the hands of the UK ill informed ‘toddler’. If you want to show anger, show it to the Conservative party for allowing silly people like you to feel empowered and not too embarrassed to raise your collective, right arm aloft, heads above the parapet.
Btw, when I said “unpopular” I meant on this forum, duh!

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Good news for Wales... on 10:33 - Sep 11 with 1457 viewsCatullus

Good news for Wales... on 07:24 - Sep 11 by zedlep

Yes I know. Wales has just as many (proportionately) Dad’s Army-minded thickies as England. With hind-sight the fury aimed at a corrupt EU (Christ, I’m starting to sound like that knobber Trump!) should have been aimed at a Prime Minister who was so concerned with keeping his job that he decided to put that particular ‘loaded gun’ in the hands of the UK ill informed ‘toddler’. If you want to show anger, show it to the Conservative party for allowing silly people like you to feel empowered and not too embarrassed to raise your collective, right arm aloft, heads above the parapet.
Btw, when I said “unpopular” I meant on this forum, duh!


What an ignorant opinion. Education is no indication of intelligence or experience, look at Boris, Letwin, Abbot etc.
Democracy is also not decided by education or class. One person one vote is about the majority wish. It's very rude to denigrate evryone who disagrees with you and your belief that you are completely right about the future is........well, are you psychic Sally, Mystic Meg? Do you know where the country will be in 20 years?
Maybe we should remove the vote from anybody who hasn't got a degree or who is over 50? Then maybe take it away from anyone with right wing tendencies? Do you know how ironically fascistic that sounds?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Good news for Wales... on 12:52 - Sep 11 with 1387 viewszedlep

Good news for Wales... on 10:33 - Sep 11 by Catullus

What an ignorant opinion. Education is no indication of intelligence or experience, look at Boris, Letwin, Abbot etc.
Democracy is also not decided by education or class. One person one vote is about the majority wish. It's very rude to denigrate evryone who disagrees with you and your belief that you are completely right about the future is........well, are you psychic Sally, Mystic Meg? Do you know where the country will be in 20 years?
Maybe we should remove the vote from anybody who hasn't got a degree or who is over 50? Then maybe take it away from anyone with right wing tendencies? Do you know how ironically fascistic that sounds?


Not totally ignorant and not aimed at people with little or no education at all, its more your assumption that “thickies” refers to education or lack of.If anything I am a fan of the fight for the right to vote from the rise of the Benefit Societies to the Chartists and beyond. You missed the ‘Dad’s Army’precurser to the “thickies” point. Before you get on your high horse again, I mean the Sitcom and not the 2000000 or so brave souls who were willing to be our last defence in WW2. Maybe I should have chosen another illustration of ‘the good old days’. Irony is potentially getting into an argument about being fascistic when being pee’d off with two posters on here that consistently reduce any football or other topic to an opportunity to push their far right wing agenda. The overtly left wing opinions on here are equally sickening. Say what you want now. I get as cheesed off as anyone else at seeing an OP being reduced to a battle of WUMs and pseudo intellectuals.

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Good news for Wales... on 13:00 - Sep 11 with 1378 viewspikeypaul

Good news for Wales... on 06:57 - Sep 11 by zedlep

Do you two ever give it a rest?
Always looking for the angle to press your unpopular politics.
Anything raising the profile of Wales is good to help in stopping England regaurding us as the sh@thole of the UK.


Unpopular?

We are in the majority .

Do you not understand how the democratic vote worked ?

Talk about thick remoaners.

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Good news for Wales... on 22:46 - Sep 11 with 1245 viewszedlep

Good news for Wales... on 13:00 - Sep 11 by pikeypaul

Unpopular?

We are in the majority .

Do you not understand how the democratic vote worked ?

Talk about thick remoaners.

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Read the previous post re: unpopular. I understand a democratic vote as much as the next voter. I also recognise a badly worded key question when I see it. Now we see polls confirming that the result of the same referendum being held now, with the awareness we have, you and yours would be soundly beaten. There will always be different opinions and I’m absolutely fine with that but this world now has people like Donald and Mickey heading up the good old US of A and Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and that guy that looks like the posh kid out of the Bash Street Kids in positions of significant influence in this country. And all we’ve got to fight them are people like Corbyn and Abbott! Desperate times.

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Good news for Wales... on 06:48 - Sep 12 with 1169 viewsPawelAbbott

Good news for Wales... on 06:32 - Sep 11 by peenemunde

They certainly won’t like it.
Just shows the remoaning sides lies once again.


As a Brexit voter, what exactly was it that you thought the country would be like when it is implemented? What did you vote for?
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Good news for Wales... on 07:14 - Sep 12 with 1154 viewspeenemunde

Good news for Wales... on 06:48 - Sep 12 by PawelAbbott

As a Brexit voter, what exactly was it that you thought the country would be like when it is implemented? What did you vote for?


You shouldn’t look at the current Brexit negotiations and think this is what people voted for.
These negotiations are a sham, being led by a PM who wants to remain.
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Good news for Wales... on 07:23 - Sep 12 with 1145 viewsJango

Good news for Wales... on 06:48 - Sep 12 by PawelAbbott

As a Brexit voter, what exactly was it that you thought the country would be like when it is implemented? What did you vote for?


When you voted remain what did you vote for? Spain, Italy and Greece in crisis. Sweden, Poland Hungary etc are up in the air. Even the billionaire investor George Soros is finally admitting the EU is in big trouble and may cease to exist.

Did you vote to be amongst that chaos when the inevitable happens?
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Good news for Wales... on 07:51 - Sep 12 with 1118 viewsPawelAbbott

Good news for Wales... on 07:23 - Sep 12 by Jango

When you voted remain what did you vote for? Spain, Italy and Greece in crisis. Sweden, Poland Hungary etc are up in the air. Even the billionaire investor George Soros is finally admitting the EU is in big trouble and may cease to exist.

Did you vote to be amongst that chaos when the inevitable happens?
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Two points
1 I didn’t say or give an inclination which way I voted
2 Voting remain would clearly have been a vote for the status quo

My point was what were you expecting the outcome to be when you voted?
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Good news for Wales... on 07:55 - Sep 12 with 1112 viewsPawelAbbott

Good news for Wales... on 07:23 - Sep 12 by Jango

When you voted remain what did you vote for? Spain, Italy and Greece in crisis. Sweden, Poland Hungary etc are up in the air. Even the billionaire investor George Soros is finally admitting the EU is in big trouble and may cease to exist.

Did you vote to be amongst that chaos when the inevitable happens?
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George Soros probably has massive investment in the decline of the Euro and so will say anything to help it on its way down. Don’t listen to anything he says and expect it to be anything but an attempt to make him money

Also Brexit doesn’t mean we get to move, we will still be 30 miles off France. We will be affected by these things in or out of the EU.
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Good news for Wales... on 07:56 - Sep 12 with 1111 viewspikeypaul

1.very obvious you voted remain

2.So you prefer to have no change and bury your head in the sand rather than right the wrongs.

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Good news for Wales... on 08:02 - Sep 12 with 1103 viewsPawelAbbott

Good news for Wales... on 07:56 - Sep 12 by pikeypaul

1.very obvious you voted remain

2.So you prefer to have no change and bury your head in the sand rather than right the wrongs.

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Not one of you has said what you voted for!!
You have no idea what you voted for do you??
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Good news for Wales... on 08:34 - Sep 12 with 1076 viewspeenemunde

Good news for Wales... on 08:02 - Sep 12 by PawelAbbott

Not one of you has said what you voted for!!
You have no idea what you voted for do you??


How about an end to free moment.
How about the end of ECHR ruling over the U.K.
I could go on and on..........
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Good news for Wales... on 08:41 - Sep 12 with 1070 viewsPawelAbbott

Good news for Wales... on 08:34 - Sep 12 by peenemunde

How about an end to free moment.
How about the end of ECHR ruling over the U.K.
I could go on and on..........


So you don’t want to adhere to internationally accepted laws on human rights???
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Good news for Wales... on 08:44 - Sep 12 with 1066 viewsJango

Good news for Wales... on 07:51 - Sep 12 by PawelAbbott

Two points
1 I didn’t say or give an inclination which way I voted
2 Voting remain would clearly have been a vote for the status quo

My point was what were you expecting the outcome to be when you voted?


So you voted remain then.
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Good news for Wales... on 08:52 - Sep 12 with 1056 viewspeenemunde

Good news for Wales... on 08:41 - Sep 12 by PawelAbbott

So you don’t want to adhere to internationally accepted laws on human rights???


A British one, not an eu court.
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Good news for Wales... on 09:11 - Sep 12 with 1043 viewsPawelAbbott

Good news for Wales... on 08:52 - Sep 12 by peenemunde

A British one, not an eu court.


Why? Do you want people to be treated worse here than what is accepted in Europe?
Surely all people should be treated the same?
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Good news for Wales... on 09:39 - Sep 12 with 1031 viewszedlep

Consider this OP subverted again! The referendum question is shown yet again to have been almost criminally inept. At least two more alternatives were needed to represent varying degrees of change required to get the EU organisation to become better. The willingness of Merkel to ‘throw the doors open’ has created an almost understandable xenophobia when the average European is seeing their historic homeland being swamped in such a manner. This has added impetus to a growing extremist and racist tide across the continent. Couple this with the urgency to admit countries that want to join for a variety of reasons (gravy train or Russia being uppermost) but don’t match the set criteria (Greece) and the European project becomes a pharse. If we, as an important country in the set up had, as a people, strongly stated that there was a distinct need for change then that could have created a bandwagon worth jumping on to. Naive maybe,but the referendum question ‘in or out’ was far, far worse.
I still think the OP is great news.
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Good news for Wales... on 10:05 - Sep 12 with 1008 viewspeenemunde

Good news for Wales... on 09:11 - Sep 12 by PawelAbbott

Why? Do you want people to be treated worse here than what is accepted in Europe?
Surely all people should be treated the same?


Ffs, we will still have human rights post Brexit.
Absolutely ridiculous to say we won’t.
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Good news for Wales... on 11:01 - Sep 12 with 973 viewsBrynCartwright

It is indeed brilliant news that such a high profile company as AM is willing to invest even more into the St Athan site. Hopefully it will encourage more companies that we have a skilled workforce and to settle here.

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Good news for Wales... on 11:25 - Sep 12 with 958 viewsLeonWasGod

Good news for Wales... on 11:01 - Sep 12 by BrynCartwright

It is indeed brilliant news that such a high profile company as AM is willing to invest even more into the St Athan site. Hopefully it will encourage more companies that we have a skilled workforce and to settle here.


Isn't it just. I'm not sure why anything else needs to be said. ~750 jobs will be a good boost to the region.
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