100,000 people on Independence march ! on 21:01 - Oct 8 with 2860 views | trampie | | |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 21:52 - Oct 8 with 2816 views | Highjack | Police say 20000 | |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 22:01 - Oct 8 with 2802 views | Flashberryjack |
100,000 people on Independence march ! on 21:52 - Oct 8 by Highjack | Police say 20000 |
So over 5 million didn't bother. | |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 22:05 - Oct 8 with 2796 views | Kilkennyjack | Fantastic. Scotland in the EU post Brexit, as sure as night follows day. Wales - as a famous poet once said - left ‘looking up England’s arsehole’ ... Its funny as feck that Brexit will kill the union. Those of us fighting Brexit are the true patriots. | |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 22:17 - Oct 8 with 2781 views | trampie | The English press trying to give limited coverage to what should be a massive story, unionist institutions like the police trying to play it down, lol. | |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 23:13 - Oct 8 with 2741 views | Kilkennyjack |
100,000 people on Independence march ! on 22:17 - Oct 8 by trampie | The English press trying to give limited coverage to what should be a massive story, unionist institutions like the police trying to play it down, lol. |
Yes indeed .... and you can add that to the sudden (sick) Prince of Wales Severn Bridge, suddenly ‘union jack’ style food packaging everywhere - including Royal Welsh show, - and the biased BBC, loving Farage forever. Plus fecking Team GB. Soar Alba ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ³ó £ó ´ó ¿ | |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 23:27 - Oct 8 with 2724 views | omarjack | | |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 23:35 - Oct 8 with 2714 views | trampie |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 06:26 - Oct 9 with 2646 views | peenemunde |
100,000 people on Independence march ! on 21:52 - Oct 8 by Highjack | Police say 20000 |
Of course the snp idiots will exaggerate the numbers. Let’s have another referendum in Scotland and one in wales at the same time, ASAP. 🇬🇧 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 | | | |
100,000 people on Independence march ! on 08:40 - Oct 9 with 2592 views | trampie |
Who would have thought it hey. | |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 09:49 - Oct 9 with 2548 views | Catullus | The Scottish Sun reports it as 20,000 https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3312072/scottish-independence-march-edinbu There are several stories about it, including on the BBC new page and mostly they say "tens of thousands" so saying 100,000 is a bit of a stretch. if we give it 50,000 that's not even 1% of the population, more people turn out for one Auld Firm football match. The only true measure is a referendum and I say lets have it. Here in Wales too, lets have a proper look at how many want the union to break up. Unlike some though, if the majority voted to leave the union I would get behind it, grudgingly I would because that's how democracy works. | |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 09:53 - Oct 9 with 2540 views | omarjack | | |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 10:19 - Oct 9 with 2527 views | johnlangy |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 10:41 - Oct 9 with 2510 views | Catullus |
100,000 people on Independence march ! on 09:53 - Oct 9 by omarjack | |
There should be a 4th box with the "small countries" saying "we're free of foreign interference now lets sign up to another union" you get the drift, it's a completely bizarre idea really. I'm not fed up of the EU because they are foreigners (mostly) but because of what they do. Just a thought, but if Wales can be succesful outside the UK, would joining the EU be a good thing? I've already pointed out that joining could take a long time, meeting the Copenhagen criteria is a long, drawn out process so independence would be complete and total whilst we travelled that road. Obviously an independent Wales would need a referendum on joininng too, what if we said no? Then in the meantime Wales flourished, why would we bother? Conversely, what if Scotland goes independent, joins the EU and it's a disaster? Will the indy's and Europhiles recognise and accept it and change their collective minds? | |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 13:29 - Oct 9 with 2469 views | Josey_Wales37 |
100,000 people on Independence march ! on 09:49 - Oct 9 by Catullus | The Scottish Sun reports it as 20,000 https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3312072/scottish-independence-march-edinbu There are several stories about it, including on the BBC new page and mostly they say "tens of thousands" so saying 100,000 is a bit of a stretch. if we give it 50,000 that's not even 1% of the population, more people turn out for one Auld Firm football match. The only true measure is a referendum and I say lets have it. Here in Wales too, lets have a proper look at how many want the union to break up. Unlike some though, if the majority voted to leave the union I would get behind it, grudgingly I would because that's how democracy works. |
The only problem with having Ref here in Wales at the moment is that there are so many people who still haven't even heard of the Indy movement, let alone heard its side of the story so to speak. Ie, older people only used to what has been, people who have always been under impression that because coal/steel industry gone that there no way, people who don't use Social media (more in Wales than you realise), people who only use Social media to talk to friend/family with no talk of politics at all. People who never talk about politics ever, but vote for a party based on they take what someone else or news says as gospel (as much as I cant stand Nick Clegg, he did half decent vid on youtube in Ebbw Vale which imo proves people vote with no idea what for or are not properly informed) What has been achieved in the last year or so by the groups now forming, has been achieved with no mainstream media backing (pretty much all union aligned ). The only snippet really is the latest Adam Price stuff. The only media we have had, is people power. There so many who under the impression there no other way, or have only ever seen independence as a joke before now. But now the numbers are growing. People are fed up with things that are going on, people realising that they been voting Lab, Cons, Ukip, Libdems whatever all their lives and hardly anything changes, in fact gets progressively worse, whether powers devolved or not. So in essence, a proper fair chance at getting to educate everyone the facts and points of view. So you don't just have Welsh Nationalists asked why support Indy, then answer "cos its Wales innit" | | | |
100,000 people on Independence march ! on 13:34 - Oct 9 with 2465 views | valleyboy |
100,000 people on Independence march ! on 21:01 - Oct 8 by trampie | |
So if it was 100k as you said That’s only 1.5% of the population Now if as the police say it was only 20k Then that’s only 0.3% of the population Not much of a backing for a referendum I would say More like “rather pathetic” | | | |
100,000 people on Independence march ! on 15:31 - Oct 9 with 2420 views | cmajack | For goodness sake. They had their vote on independence and went against it. Like the remoaners, do they want to keep voting until they get the decision they like. Pity some of the youngsters dont demonstrate against things that really affect them like zero hours contracts. How has that been allowed to happen with todays generation? | | | |
100,000 people on Independence march ! on 15:37 - Oct 9 with 2410 views | LeonWasGod |
100,000 people on Independence march ! on 10:41 - Oct 9 by Catullus | There should be a 4th box with the "small countries" saying "we're free of foreign interference now lets sign up to another union" you get the drift, it's a completely bizarre idea really. I'm not fed up of the EU because they are foreigners (mostly) but because of what they do. Just a thought, but if Wales can be succesful outside the UK, would joining the EU be a good thing? I've already pointed out that joining could take a long time, meeting the Copenhagen criteria is a long, drawn out process so independence would be complete and total whilst we travelled that road. Obviously an independent Wales would need a referendum on joininng too, what if we said no? Then in the meantime Wales flourished, why would we bother? Conversely, what if Scotland goes independent, joins the EU and it's a disaster? Will the indy's and Europhiles recognise and accept it and change their collective minds? |
It depends on the level of interference and whether it's voluntary. The 2 scenarios aren't really comparable at all, even though people seem to want to make out that they are. | | | |
100,000 people on Independence march ! on 18:17 - Oct 9 with 2361 views | felixstowe_jack | 20000 and it was people March for second Brexit vote not Scottish independence | |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 20:37 - Oct 9 with 2314 views | Kilkennyjack |
100,000 people on Independence march ! on 15:31 - Oct 9 by cmajack | For goodness sake. They had their vote on independence and went against it. Like the remoaners, do they want to keep voting until they get the decision they like. Pity some of the youngsters dont demonstrate against things that really affect them like zero hours contracts. How has that been allowed to happen with todays generation? |
‘The SNP rebounded from the loss in the independence referendum at the UK general election in May 2015, led by Salmond's successor as first minister, Nicola Sturgeon. The party went from holding six seats in the House of Commons to 56, mostly at the expense of the Labour Party. All but three of the fifty-nine constituencies in the country elected an SNP candidate. BBC News described the historic result as a "Scots landslide".’ The referendum itself was not the end, it simply marked the end of the beginning. Scotland will be free - its the will of the people, innit ...!! | |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 20:41 - Oct 9 with 2308 views | Dr_Winston |
100,000 people on Independence march ! on 20:37 - Oct 9 by Kilkennyjack | ‘The SNP rebounded from the loss in the independence referendum at the UK general election in May 2015, led by Salmond's successor as first minister, Nicola Sturgeon. The party went from holding six seats in the House of Commons to 56, mostly at the expense of the Labour Party. All but three of the fifty-nine constituencies in the country elected an SNP candidate. BBC News described the historic result as a "Scots landslide".’ The referendum itself was not the end, it simply marked the end of the beginning. Scotland will be free - its the will of the people, innit ...!! |
How many of those seats did they lose at the last election? | |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 20:55 - Oct 9 with 2299 views | Kilkennyjack |
100,000 people on Independence march ! on 20:41 - Oct 9 by Dr_Winston | How many of those seats did they lose at the last election? |
They still have 35. About three times as many as the second biggest party. Huge endorsement in truth. | |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 20:57 - Oct 9 with 2296 views | Dr_Winston |
100,000 people on Independence march ! on 20:55 - Oct 9 by Kilkennyjack | They still have 35. About three times as many as the second biggest party. Huge endorsement in truth. |
Yes, losing nearly half their seats is a massive vote of confidence. | |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 21:28 - Oct 9 with 2264 views | trampie |
100,000 people on Independence march ! on 20:57 - Oct 9 by Dr_Winston | Yes, losing nearly half their seats is a massive vote of confidence. |
Massive endorsement in truth. Its like a saying a team achieving a once in a millennium result in the Premier League of winning 38 games in 38 matches and then winning the league again the following year with another excellent performance of 32 wins, 4 draws and 2 losses and then trying to make out somehow that is poor. No fairs fair that was an excellent result for the SNP, winning virtually every single seat the previous time was an impossible task to follow but that just shows how well the SNP have been doing. | |
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100,000 people on Independence march ! on 22:27 - Oct 9 with 2225 views | Catullus |
100,000 people on Independence march ! on 21:28 - Oct 9 by trampie | Massive endorsement in truth. Its like a saying a team achieving a once in a millennium result in the Premier League of winning 38 games in 38 matches and then winning the league again the following year with another excellent performance of 32 wins, 4 draws and 2 losses and then trying to make out somehow that is poor. No fairs fair that was an excellent result for the SNP, winning virtually every single seat the previous time was an impossible task to follow but that just shows how well the SNP have been doing. |
They lost 21 seats last time, what if it's a trend? What if the SNP is in decline? We'll see next time around. No amount of bluster will cover up another big loss but, on the other hand, if they regain some of those lost seats you might be right. 56 was a huge endorsement, losing 21 of those was sign people were losing faith but still a good result. | |
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