| Swansea City Fans For Independence 00:10 - Oct 9 with 11904 views | trampie |
Seems like Swansea City Fans For Independence is up and running. |  |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 16:37 - Oct 10 with 1779 views | trampie |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 16:18 - Oct 10 by Sir_Robin |
Would you say the same thing about the equally divisive union jacks? |
Yes quite, I would go as far as to say that the union jack is far more divisive [not equally] than Welsh flags in Wales . | |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 16:55 - Oct 10 with 1759 views | KGriz16 |
is there a website I can use to find some information on independence for Wales at what it would mean please? I've completed some research on Twitter, but I am keen to do some more reading as I've only seen 'positives' |  | | |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 16:58 - Oct 10 with 1750 views | Darran |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 16:24 - Oct 10 by trampie |
Well Monaco play in France and Berwick play in Scotland and Derry play in the Republic of Ireland and there are lots of other examples, in fact at one time there was and probably still is a lot of English teams on the border with Wales [who play at a lowish level] that actually play in the Welsh league system. |
So you want independence but not full independence?
What about the Sky money too do you want that.
Honestly you sound like the dullest çunt in Wales. |  |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 17:06 - Oct 10 with 1736 views | trampie |
Darran you stupid scruffy long haired luvvie, leaving a political union is nothing to do with sport.  | |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 17:16 - Oct 10 with 1722 views | Darran |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 17:06 - Oct 10 by trampie |
Darran you stupid scruffy long haired luvvie, leaving a political union is nothing to do with sport. |
Well we can be independent mun. We can play in the WPL it’s called being independent you thick twà t | |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 17:50 - Oct 10 with 1705 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 16:18 - Oct 10 by Sir_Robin |
Would you say the same thing about the equally divisive union jacks? |
No i wouldnt. You know why i wouldnt? Cos they dont go around making lots of noise based on nothing but thinly-veiled anti-english rhetoric (fck it, lets call it racism - just like the SNP do) and some "hwyl and passion" which went out of date in the 18th century.
Yet another tiny minority trying to latch on to every day people, places, businesses, sports etc etc in order to validate their wet dreams and repress their beta genes.
If these people reeeally wanted to get a feel for it, i suggest they go stand outside the Liberty on match day and see whats what (and no, you cant use free beer as bribes)
KEEP POLITICS OUT OF FOOTBALL (AND RUGBY!) |  |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 18:02 - Oct 10 with 1694 views | trampie |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 17:16 - Oct 10 by Darran |
Well we can be independent mun. We can play in the WPL it’s called being independent you thick twà t |
Monaco play in the French league, Berwick in the Scottish league and Derry which is in the United Kingdom play in a league in another sovereign country the Republic of Ireland.
It is not a given that a team from one country cant play in another countries league set ups, there are countless examples across the World. | |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 18:08 - Oct 10 with 1681 views | trampie |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 17:50 - Oct 10 by PozuelosSideys |
No i wouldnt. You know why i wouldnt? Cos they dont go around making lots of noise based on nothing but thinly-veiled anti-english rhetoric (fck it, lets call it racism - just like the SNP do) and some "hwyl and passion" which went out of date in the 18th century.
Yet another tiny minority trying to latch on to every day people, places, businesses, sports etc etc in order to validate their wet dreams and repress their beta genes.
If these people reeeally wanted to get a feel for it, i suggest they go stand outside the Liberty on match day and see whats what (and no, you cant use free beer as bribes)
KEEP POLITICS OUT OF FOOTBALL (AND RUGBY!) |
Some people call the union jack the 'butchers apron', far right fascist groups wrap themselves in that flag and see it as their flag of choice. | |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 19:12 - Oct 10 with 1656 views | Darran |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 18:02 - Oct 10 by trampie |
Monaco play in the French league, Berwick in the Scottish league and Derry which is in the United Kingdom play in a league in another sovereign country the Republic of Ireland.
It is not a given that a team from one country cant play in another countries league set ups, there are countless examples across the World. |
Dull as fuçk.
You’re like those Liverpool dicks who hate The Sun but wouldn’t turn down Murdochs money. | |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 20:07 - Oct 10 with 1637 views | Catullus |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 18:08 - Oct 10 by trampie |
Some people call the union jack the 'butchers apron', far right fascist groups wrap themselves in that flag and see it as their flag of choice. |
People like you call it the butchers apron. As for the Union flag, it hasn't gone away, it has been there every home game this season, it was there for he Ipswich game, I pass it on the way to my seat.
The stewards tried to remove a it few games back because apparently it was covering up advertising but the stewards gave up when loads of people got on their case. By loads I mean at least half a block, they were chanting "leave our flag alone" and the stewards haven't tried again. |  |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 20:53 - Oct 10 with 1624 views | exiledclaseboy |
UEFA regards Israel as a European country so I’d pay that no heed. |  |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 20:58 - Oct 10 with 1615 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 20:07 - Oct 10 by Catullus |
People like you call it the butchers apron. As for the Union flag, it hasn't gone away, it has been there every home game this season, it was there for he Ipswich game, I pass it on the way to my seat.
The stewards tried to remove a it few games back because apparently it was covering up advertising but the stewards gave up when loads of people got on their case. By loads I mean at least half a block, they were chanting "leave our flag alone" and the stewards haven't tried again. |
Well i could not see it last game.
I think they have given up ..... dont blame them, poor dabs ...
Here is the thing see ...
The dragon flag is a national flag. Fact.
The union flag is a political flag. Fact.
So those who want politics out of sport, then think on.
I much prefer the dragon flag as its cool - and frankly its not hated by half the world ...
That said, its personal choice.
I liked the old school Swansea City England flags, nothing wrong with that. |  |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 22:10 - Oct 10 with 1587 views | jack_lord |
The only independence I want is to be from Cardiff. |  |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 00:03 - Oct 11 with 1556 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 22:10 - Oct 10 by jack_lord |
The only independence I want is to be from Cardiff. |
How very 1970s ? | |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 09:46 - Oct 11 with 1516 views | johnlangy |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 16:55 - Oct 10 by KGriz16 |
is there a website I can use to find some information on independence for Wales at what it would mean please? I've completed some research on Twitter, but I am keen to do some more reading as I've only seen 'positives' |
Try oggybloggyogwr.com and select the State Of Wales button. | | | |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 11:39 - Oct 11 with 1485 views | valleyboy |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 10:59 - Oct 10 by trampie |
Its a Welsh club and there is no getting away from that, the only divisiveness is from incomer snowflakes that might not like fans shouting 'Wales, Wales' or having a Welsh flag or by those influenced by such people.
I've nothing to do with the movement and im certainly not attempting to make out the club backs it as the club and town or is it a City unfortunately has become more and more 'Anglo' over the years. [Post edited 10 Oct 2018 11:30]
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Yes Swansea is a Welsh club that plays it’s football in an English league
Don’t tell me you want Swansea to play in the Welsh League | | | |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 11:53 - Oct 11 with 1478 views | TailGunner |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 18:02 - Oct 10 by trampie |
Monaco play in the French league, Berwick in the Scottish league and Derry which is in the United Kingdom play in a league in another sovereign country the Republic of Ireland.
It is not a given that a team from one country cant play in another countries league set ups, there are countless examples across the World. |
Devils advocate here..... - how about...
The county of Swansea being independent from Wales
We can generate tidal power, & the millions from tourism & reinvest it all.
Hopefully if we can still play in the English league system - Win / win?
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 11:54 - Oct 11 with 1476 views | Darran |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 11:39 - Oct 11 by valleyboy |
Yes Swansea is a Welsh club that plays it’s football in an English league
Don’t tell me you want Swansea to play in the Welsh League |
Don’t be dull of course he doesn’t. He wants independence on his terms.
Just for the record I’m not criticising anyone that wants independence I just find it hilarious that all the Welsh Nats would want to stay in the English leagues. | |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 12:13 - Oct 11 with 1467 views | Lohengrin |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 11:54 - Oct 11 by Darran |
Don’t be dull of course he doesn’t. He wants independence on his terms.
Just for the record I’m not criticising anyone that wants independence I just find it hilarious that all the Welsh Nats would want to stay in the English leagues. |
Almost without exception the genuine Welsh Nationalists I’ve know over the years have rarely expressed much interest in football at all. |  |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 12:21 - Oct 11 with 1460 views | Darran |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 12:13 - Oct 11 by Lohengrin |
Almost without exception the genuine Welsh Nationalists I’ve know over the years have rarely expressed much interest in football at all. |
Fair point. | |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 12:56 - Oct 11 with 1437 views | valleyboy |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 11:53 - Oct 11 by TailGunner |
Devils advocate here..... - how about...
The county of Swansea being independent from Wales
We can generate tidal power, & the millions from tourism & reinvest it all.
Hopefully if we can still play in the English league system - Win / win?
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The losses from the tidal power scheme will wipe out any profit from tourism big time | | | |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 14:56 - Oct 11 with 1412 views | Catullus |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 20:58 - Oct 10 by Kilkennyjack |
Well i could not see it last game.
I think they have given up ..... dont blame them, poor dabs ...
Here is the thing see ...
The dragon flag is a national flag. Fact.
The union flag is a political flag. Fact.
So those who want politics out of sport, then think on.
I much prefer the dragon flag as its cool - and frankly its not hated by half the world ...
That said, its personal choice.
I liked the old school Swansea City England flags, nothing wrong with that. |
You couldn't see it....try specsavers because it was there, I spoke to them and they won't give up. There's a lot you don't see mind.
All flags are political, countries are political entities, way back when we lived in mud huts Wales wasn't a country, it was an area inhabited by Welsh tribes and we had wars with other tribes (and all too often amongst ourselves) to gain territory and power....women and slaves, food etc.
Flags are symbols, originally they were nothing more than an identity, a rallying point in battles. The union flag doesn't have Wales on it because we were officially part of England before the acts of union (1707, yes I looked it up.....I'm not Lohengrin, I don't know these things!) | |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 16:51 - Oct 11 with 1381 views | trampie |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 11:39 - Oct 11 by valleyboy |
Yes Swansea is a Welsh club that plays it’s football in an English league
Don’t tell me you want Swansea to play in the Welsh League |
Swansea spent nearly all their existence playing in the 'football league'. | |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 19:02 - Oct 11 with 1349 views | Catullus |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 16:51 - Oct 11 by trampie |
Swansea spent nearly all their existence playing in the 'football league'. |
Wales has spent nearly all it's existence under Englsih rule......so your point is?
OK it's not nearly all but around three quarters, from 1282 to the present day, Wales having been officialy a country since 1056. | |
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| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 20:14 - Oct 11 with 1331 views | trampie |
| Swansea City Fans For Independence on 19:02 - Oct 11 by Catullus |
Wales has spent nearly all it's existence under Englsih rule......so your point is?
OK it's not nearly all but around three quarters, from 1282 to the present day, Wales having been officialy a country since 1056. |
Swansea played in the football league for nearly all of Swansea's existence, Swansea did not play in the English football league for most of Swansea's existence but in the 'football league'.
Wales never surrendered, Welsh lands over about 500 odd feet was never conquered, it was just the people on the coastal lowlands like Cardiff and Swansea people. | |
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